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[keeper18]

LB will win their league? WHOA! Not a tough task there, junior. They play..... ummm..... errrr..... nobody.

exaxtly

[knightmare07]

LB will win their league? WHOA! Not a tough task there, junior. They play..... ummm..... errrr..... nobody.

Yeah...there is not much challenge there....

[nwsoccerfan1]

i wasnt saying that they had a good league.. thats why i said they would win it?....and to keeper: they have 4 returning starters, and a great supporting cast that is improving as we speak (being coached again by louis cortell). and the 4 returning starters are playing for the u17 team that is playing in the state league this year (which is the best league in the state)

[knightmare07]

i wasnt saying that they had a good league.. thats why i said they would win it?....and to keeper: they have 4 returning starters, and a great supporting cast that is improving as we speak (being coached again by louis cortell). and the 4 returning starters are playing for the u17 team that is playing in the state league this year (which is the best league in the state)

I also agree with those statements...I know LB lost alot but they will be better than people think...

[keeper18]

i wasnt saying that they had a good league.. thats why i said they would win it?....and to keeper: they have 4 returning starters, and a great supporting cast that is improving as we speak (being coached again by louis cortell). and the 4 returning starters are playing for the u17 team that is playing in the state league this year (which is the best league in the state)

K, what u u17 team. Cause there is no travel team around them that is good besides pacesetter premier ...... And if Findlay soccer club is in the state leaugue lol our club soccer in Ohio must be goin down the drains............

Edited by keeper18, 21 April 2008 - 01:00 PM.

[nwsoccerfan1]

if u think they have no talent then you havent seen them play..and they are playing for findlay soccer club .. who qualified last year for the state league by winning a smaller league.

PS u no nothing about club soccer if u think the only good club around them is pascetter

[keeper18]

if u think they have no talent then you havent seen them play..and they are playing for findlay soccer club .. who qualified last year for the state league by winning a smaller league.

PS u no nothing about club soccer if u think the only good club around them is pascetter

OMG! Findlay lol........ Ok obviously u know nothing about club soccer cause the state league is not the toughest league in the state. Have u ever heard of MRL (Midwest Regional League) that is definately the toughest league. Findlay soccer club is like Rec compared to the teams in that.

[nwsoccerfan1]

well considering that "amazing" pascetter team is in the state league.. the league cant be that bad. and yes the state league contains the best teams in ohio.. and i'm not gonna bother fighting with you anymore

[Rembrandt Q. Einstein]

1) That Pacestter team is indeed VERY GOOD. I have seen them on several occasions, no hearsay needed. They have the luxury of drawing from SJ, SF, AW, Perrysburg, Northview, the best Findlay players also (I believe, has always been the case in the past) and as mentioned earlier, and the best players from OH. All established programs with history & players with years of competitive experience.

2) The Midwest Regional League, albeit TERRIBLY EXPENSIVE to participate, is indeed the cream of the crop for not just Ohio but something like 13 states. While the State League is good (with some MRL teams playing, like Pacesetter), the MRL is leaps and bounds above it.

3) We're forgetting also that the level of club ball is much stronger in Ohio South. Ohio North is represented mostly by Cleveland teams with the odd Toledo team poking in every year or so (keeper, I'm a Pacesetter alumni so I'm aware of the quality...but Cleveland has our area beat). Ohio South has Dayton, Columbus and Cincinatti to draw from each city having several top-quality clubs. SO to say that a league from Ohio North is the best in the State is lacking without incorporating Ohio South.

Edited by Rembrandt Q. Einstein, 21 April 2008 - 09:04 AM.

[Rembrandt Q. Einstein]

nw, not fighting with you either. Often we don't see the big picture and there's always a bigger picture. I watch a lot of soccer and see the best teams in the Midwest and there's a huge world out there. Having said that, I know many of the players on the team you're talking about and it will be a competitive team and does have good players.

[keeper18]

well considering that "amazing" pascetter team is in the state league.. the league cant be that bad. and yes the state league contains the best teams in ohio.. and i'm not gonna bother fighting with you anymore

They are not in the state league, i said MRL.................

[keeper18]

1) That Pacestter team is indeed VERY GOOD. I have seen them on several occasions, no hearsay needed. They have the luxury of drawing from SJ, SF, AW, Perrysburg, Northview, the best Findlay players also (I believe, has always been the case in the past) and as mentioned earlier, and the best players from OH. All established programs with history & players with years of competitive experience.

2) The Midwest Regional League, albeit TERRIBLY EXPENSIVE to participate, is indeed the cream of the crop for not just Ohio but something like 13 states. While the State League is good (with some MRL teams playing, like Pacesetter), the MRL is leaps and bounds above it.

3) We're forgetting also that the level of club ball is much stronger in Ohio South. Ohio North is represented mostly by Cleveland teams with the odd Toledo team poking in every year or so (keeper, I'm a Pacesetter alumni so I'm aware of the quality...but Cleveland has our area beat). Ohio South has Dayton, Columbus and Cincinatti to draw from each city having several top-quality clubs. SO to say that a league from Ohio North is the best in the State is lacking without incorporating Ohio South.

UMM........ The top teams in ohio south are in the MRL also........... lol

[nwsoccerfan1]

thankyou rembrandt for defending me/kinda aruguing me.. i agree with all of what you said.. i was not saying that pascetter was bad.. but i was just trying to prove that the u17 team for findlay that plays in the state league is a good team.. and is of a much higher quality than what most findlay club teams are known for

[keeper18]

thankyou rembrandt for defending me/kinda aruguing me.. i agree with all of what you said.. i was not saying that pascetter was bad.. but i was just trying to prove that the u17 team for findlay that plays in the state league is a good team.. and is of a much higher quality than what most findlay club teams are known for

Alright now thats better, they might be better than the average Findlay Soccer Club but they are not close to the teams in the MRL.............. And give me some Team names that they Play

[Rembrandt Q. Einstein]

And keeper, I'm fully aware that those Ohio South teams play in the MRL. I suppose my earlier statements were made to imply that.

[Rembrandt Q. Einstein]

And let's be honest, the only reason there's not better quality to Findlay Club teams is the 5 player per school rule. There was a time, which many on this forum were not even alive for, when Findlay club teams were amongst the finest in the MW. Findlay has always had a wealth of talented and recognized players. I'd menton names, and have before, but few if anyone on this site would recognize them, in addition to the recent qulaity that has come through. So the quality problem isn't a Findlay problem, it's a regulatory problem.

[keeper18]

And let's be honest, the only reason there's not better quality to Findlay Club teams is the 5 player per school rule. There was a time, which many on this forum were not even alive for, when Findlay club teams were amongst the finest in the MW. Findlay has always had a wealth of talented and recognized players. I'd menton names, and have before, but few if anyone on this site would recognize them, in addition to the recent qulaity that has come through. So the quality problem isn't a Findlay problem, it's a regulatory problem.

Ok? there still horrible.

[Rembrandt Q. Einstein]

Findlay soccer is horrible? Clearly you're an expert of the highest order. Man dude, I came in on your side on the club soccer debate and then you go on to bash the fact that I left out OH South in the MRL, while I clearly knew that. Clearly not done yet, you feel the need to slander one of the oldest and most celebrated soccer communities and HS programs in the State. I guess Coach LAux being the winnigest coach in Ohio history, while heading the 5th winningest program ever, must be the product of a horrible program. Congrats for opening my humble and ignorant eyes. Can you, by any chance, start an argument in an empty room?

[keeper18]

Findlay soccer is horrible? Clearly you're an expert of the highest order. Man dude, I came in on your side on the club soccer debate and then you go on to bash the fact that I left out OH South in the MRL, while I clearly knew that. Clearly not done yet, you feel the need to slander one of the oldest and most celebrated soccer communities and HS programs in the State. I guess Coach LAux being the winnigest coach in Ohio history, while heading the 5th winningest program ever, must be the product of a horrible program. Congrats for opening my humble and ignorant eyes. Can you, by any chance, start an argument in an empty room?

Im not arguinig........ just cause he is a great coach doesnt make the club good.

[Rembrandt Q. Einstein]

Coach Laux was the HS coach from 1977 until retirement this year. So we're talking apples and oranges here. He's not a club coach.

Back to apples and apples. As I clearly said earlier, of course club teams from the toledo area, or any large urban/suburban area, are going to be better than a Findlay club team due to the 5 player per team rule. The talent pool is larger and draws from mostly DI, established and historically strong programs. Apart from Findlay itself, any Findlay club team has to draw from much smaller and relatively newer programs, hence Pacesetter will usually field a stronger team. Having said that, the players from the smaller schools are getting better and better, the only difference is sheer number of players. I watch a lot of DIII soccer, but played at Findlay & Pacestter so I know both worlds, therefore I feel comfortable in saying that these programs are not nearly as bad you think (not even close), in fact many are comparable to OH ( Cory Rawson from the NCOSA beat O-H).

Edited by Rembrandt Q. Einstein, 23 April 2008 - 12:25 PM.