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[Wildcat19]

OSU was in the game until the roughing the kicker and then the personal foul. If that kick would have been blocked(I don't know how he missed it) it is a different game. The dropped pass in the end zone didn't help. It was amazing how the most penalized team doesn't get one called until I believe the third quarter. I'll take one National title and a shot at two others in 7 years. Next year should be better unless we lose a bunch to the NFL.

We could always go back to Copper and getting beat by Michigan every year.

[baseballer3]

ohio state fans:
it is okay to come up with all the excuses in the world.. coaching.. players schedule.. the facts are plain as day.. the big ten is no where near an elite conference anymore.. they are probably down to #4 or 5 realistically. The style of ball they play and the kids they recruit are old fashioned.. the game has changed any many of the schools are switching to this as michigan soon will i am sure. But ohio state is only a mediocre team in a down conference. Props to playing and hanging in there with an SEC school but this is a trend for almost all big teams. At least they won the big ten this year you have to fall back on and the pretty much won the MAC with their tough out of conference line up....

[Dman]

Thats not fair at all...Ohio State is the only program keeping the Big Ten relevant...with expectations that Michigan can return pretty strong. The problem is not with Ohio State...it starts about team three on down. Take the Buckeyes out of the conference...and then talk about how many players the Big Ten sends to the pros, etc. The fact is that we should be happy that our program has been able to sustain and thrive while the conference has wilted around us. No objective Buckeye fan can deny what has happened to the conference...nor can we deny our dismal record against the SEC...but to call us a "mediocre team" is ridiculous. We are the class of a down league. We recruit as good as anybody in the country. We win as much as anybody in the country. We send as many players to the pros as anybody. By almost any sort of measuring stick we are a pretty good program. Our problem is that our league does not adequately prepare us for big games. The SEC does. Since I don't see us leaving the Big Ten anytime soon...there are reasons to worry...but it is not fair to call us mediocre.

Unless your definition of mediocre includes every team not in the top 10% of programs.

Edited by Dman, 10 January 2008 - 07:57 PM.

[osu fan]

ohio state fans:
it is okay to come up with all the excuses in the world.. coaching.. players schedule.. the facts are plain as day.. the big ten is no where near an elite conference anymore.. they are probably down to #4 or 5 realistically. The style of ball they play and the kids they recruit are old fashioned.. the game has changed any many of the schools are switching to this as michigan soon will i am sure. But ohio state is only a mediocre team in a down conference. Props to playing and hanging in there with an SEC school but this is a trend for almost all big teams. At least they won the big ten this year you have to fall back on and the pretty much won the MAC with their tough out of conference line up....

Pretty tough to call us mediocre and only the 4th or 5th best out of 119 schools. What do you call a team that is #50? horrible? They would still be in the top half of college football.

In regards to the schedule. I have a question.

What team in college football has USC, Oklahoma, Miami (FL), Virginia Tech and California on their schedule over the next 9 seasons?

[tigerball13]

Pretty tough to call us mediocre and only the 4th or 5th best out of 119 schools. What do you call a team that is #50? horrible? They would still be in the top half of college football.

In regards to the schedule. I have a question.

What team in college football has USC, Oklahoma, Miami (FL), Virginia Tech and California on their schedule over the next 9 seasons?

He was saying the big 10 was about the 4th or 5th best conference I believe.

[papbear]

baseballer3 who, by chance do you root for.

[TheBCSMess]

Interestingly enough, none of those teams run a spread offense - at least at this point in time.

Also - Many of the "big" teams play at least one good out of conference game. It's not like that schedule is going to be an absolute grind em out kind of schedule. Instead of getting up for one game, its 2 games.

Florida plays Miami (FL) next season.
Georgia plays Arizona State.
UCLA plays Tennessee and BYU
Texas plays Arkansas
Nebraska has VT
West Virginia opens with Auburn
Cincinnatti goes to Oklahoma

My point is that you can't act like its this super packed schedule of intense games. It's good to see they have good games coming for the next 9 years, but a lot of the BCS contending schools play at least one good out of conference game.

[tigerball13]

Florida plays Miami (FL) next season.

This is the one that really stuck out. The others are pretty solid games, but let's be honest, the U is not what it once was. They were beaten 48-0 at their last ever game in the Orange Bowl.....

[TheBCSMess]

So thats a weak non conference game for Florida and OSU, or just Florida?

[osu fan]

This is the one that really stuck out. The others are pretty solid games, but let's be honest, the U is not what it once was. They were beaten 48-0 at their last ever game in the Orange Bowl.....

So thats a weak non conference game for Florida and OSU, or just Florida?

This game has been scheduled for years now. Kind of like Washington. Can not fault the effort of Ohio State to schedule the best of the best though.

Edited by osu fan, 12 January 2008 - 12:01 AM.

[osu fan]

Interestingly enough, none of those teams run a spread offense - at least at this point in time.

Also - Many of the "big" teams play at least one good out of conference game. It's not like that schedule is going to be an absolute grind em out kind of schedule. Instead of getting up for one game, its 2 games.


UCLA plays Tennessee and BYU

Cincinnatti goes to Oklahoma

My point is that you can't act like its this super packed schedule of intense games. It's good to see they have good games coming for the next 9 years, but a lot of the BCS contending schools play at least one good out of conference game.

Cincinnati and BYU as tough Out of conference games?

Point is Ohio State plays people and other teams are running away from us.

[WONBulldog]

Alot of these "big" out of conference games are scheduled close to a decade in advance. The Miami (FL) game for OSU was set up right after OSU and Miami played in the Fiesta Bowl. I think the deal was actually struck during the game, if my memory serves me. But it was right about the same time. I also think Ohio State had Syracuse scheduled for the upcoming seasons (or maybe this past season) but paid to GET OUT of the games because Syracuse just plummetted to the bottom of college football. That's only using memory, I haven't really looked to see something solid. But I was sure that OSU had Syracuse lined up, and that isn't the case anymore.

[Tim Dweeb]

That's a classic example of scheduling. Teams that scheduled Miami 3-4 years ago thought they would be playing against one of the top teams in the nation. Instead it could potentially be against a non-ranked team. That is the downside to scheduling years in advance. It is not as easy as we all think.

For example, if someone schedules Notre Dame right now for a game 5 years from now, what will you get. You scheduled a team that won only 3 games this year and were pathetic. With their highly rated recruiting classes, maybe they will return to glory in 5 years, or maybe Charlie Cheesesburger will still be struggling to even reach .500. It is definitely not an exact science.

Edited by Tim Dweeb, 12 January 2008 - 06:32 PM.

[osu fan]

What do you think that the Ohio State Oklahoma game will look like when they meet in 2016/2017? Will Tressel and Stoops both be there or gone?

[TheBCSMess]

I'd just be worried about USC next year. Pete will be there.

[West Nile Virus]

[quote name='WONBulldog' date='Jan 9 2008, 02:37 PM' post='125585']
The pure irony of those upcoming out of conference games is that there are none from the Big East or SEC. HOWEVER, it is my understand that Ohio State wanted to have a home and home series with a quality opponent from each of the major conferences, but the SEC schools turned them down.

Maybe the SEC teams wanted a stronger out of conference schedule.
Based upon the last two years, their not going to get it from Columbus.

[tigerball13]

Maybe the SEC teams wanted a stronger out of conference schedule.
Based upon the last two years, their not going to get it from Columbus.

So playing a team that just went to back to back NC games (even if they lost) is a bad out of conference game? A team that has lost only 3 games the past two seasons....

[WONBulldog]

Maybe the SEC teams wanted a stronger out of conference schedule.
Based upon the last two years, their not going to get it from Columbus.

We understand your mind has become diseased. West Nile is just brutal like that. Come back if you ever get healed and aren't having your brain slowly turned to mush by some disease.

The SEC certainly isn't getting a stronger out of conference schedule by taking on the likes of "Big Pete's House of Pancakes University." But I can't blame them for not wanting to take on Ohio State. They do have a rough schedule in their conference as it is. The pure fact of the matter is that they don't want a stronger out of conference schedule. Their strength of schedule will do just fine playing SEC opponents. However, when doing such things, it basically gives all the big out of conference TV coverage to all the other conferences who are trying to set up stellar match-ups. Helps in the recruiting...which, apparently, many of those non-SEC teams can appreciate.

[osu fan]

We understand your mind has become diseased. West Nile is just brutal like that. Come back if you ever get healed and aren't having your brain slowly turned to mush by some disease.

The SEC certainly isn't getting a stronger out of conference schedule by taking on the likes of "Big Pete's House of Pancakes University." But I can't blame them for not wanting to take on Ohio State. They do have a rough schedule in their conference as it is. The pure fact of the matter is that they don't want a stronger out of conference schedule. Their strength of schedule will do just fine playing SEC opponents. However, when doing such things, it basically gives all the big out of conference TV coverage to all the other conferences who are trying to set up stellar match-ups. Helps in the recruiting...which, apparently, many of those non-SEC teams can appreciate.

Lets not forget it was the likes of the Citadel that cost Auburn a shot at the National Title game! Auburn, USC and Oklahoma all ran the table and it was Auburn that was left out because of its weak out of conference games!!!!

[WONBulldog]

Lets not forget it was the likes of the Citadel that cost Auburn a shot at the National Title game! Auburn, USC and Oklahoma all ran the table and it was Auburn that was left out because of its weak out of conference games!!!!

Ha...poor Auburn.