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#41 WONBulldog

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 09:49 PM

If by "egg on my face," you are referring to one of those Reese's Peanut Butter Eggs, I thank you for noticing. I dabbed the last bit of chocolate away with a napkin. I guess I'm all clean now! Yea for coming off all clean!!! I am good like that.

Anyway, I guess you'll continue to ignore that many of the mock drafts or information coming out immediately after the 2007 draft had Mike Hart ranked around the first round, huh? My apologies. By the way, I love the messages from folks online...mostly going something like this: "Ha ha ha! Vic shot down again. What a moron. Glad you knocked him down a few more pegs!" or even "He'll learn to read what's right in front of him soon. He'll realize he should turn and run if he'd stop wearing his blinders."

I repeat:you've missed the point again. Do your research. If anyone wants to do their own research, go ahead. It isn't difficult to find. Vic is posting 2008 Mock Drafts composed AFTER the 2007 college football season or after a large portion of it was completed. The issue was his status before the 2006 draft and immediately after. You have deliberately missed the point as much as possible in an attempt to shadow the issue that was originally argued. Pure, plain and simple. When you want to stop hiding from what you don't want to see, you can post as a competent human being again. Until then, please crawl back into your rat hole and chew your moldy crackers. If you're lucky, maybe someone will give you peanut butter egg to indulge on, too.

But sorry, no napkin.
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Posted 04 January 2008 - 11:11 PM

QUOTE(WONBulldog @ Jan 3 2008, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Haven't people learned to stop doubting me yet? Last years draft class at RB was pretty weak. AP and Marshawn Lynch (both underclassmen last year) went in the 1st Round, and I think that was it. And a lot of what I remember had him ranked above Lynch. I know I heard from many places that he'd likely be mid 1st to mid 2nd round, but once he didn't submit his name for a draft grade, the talk of him pretty much stopped. ESPN, for instance.

I haven't been able to find anything solid for you, but here are a few things that talked about draft positioning at the beginning of the season and some other stuff, talking about the likelihood of his being a late 1st round pick or there abouts.

http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2008_nfl_draft/mike_hart.htm

http://thefootballexpert.com/2008nflmockdraftrose.html


And two posts down from that!

QUOTE(WONBulldog @ Jan 3 2008, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was talking about the 2007 Draft...no mention of 2008 in my talk of how he'd have been picked higher in 2007 than he will in 2008. Hart was said to be borderline first round pick and likely would have been the 2nd RB chosen in 2007. I could care less where he goes in the draft. He could get drafted by the Monteal Alouettes for all I care. I was just stating his draft stock LAST season is higher than it appears likely to be this draft.


Folks, I think you can see from the two conflicting posts above that this young man has some issues. He opted to post links to two pathetic attempts at mock drafts from 2008 while I in turn posted a credible mock draft for 2008 for which I was crucified. I was unable to find any credible info on Hart listed as a 1st round prospect at any point in his career at Michigan.

As I said, go to
http://www.thefootballexpert.com/mockdraftdatabase.html
&
http://www.nfldraftdog.com/

Both sites WONbulldog provided are junk sites that allow you, I or any other knucklehead off the street to post a mock draft and scouting report.

For whatever reason he has taken that as Gospel before doing any research to find out what it is he's actually stumbled across.

Edited by Victorian, 04 January 2008 - 11:20 PM.


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Posted 04 January 2008 - 11:35 PM

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Both sites WONbulldog provided are junk sites that allow you, I or any other knucklehead off the street to post a mock draft and scouting report.

Sounds kinda familiar????? Hmmmmmm??? Anyone able to help me out here??? rolleyes.gif
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Posted 04 January 2008 - 11:36 PM

http://www.s8.createphpbb.com/nfldraftdog/...rum=nfldraftdog

For all you "NFL experts" out there ready to start your own blog. Fire it up!

And my personal favorite from nfldraftdog.com and its infinite wisdom
http://www.nfldraftdog.com/Mock_Drafts/200..._mock_draft.htm

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 11:36 PM

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Sounds kinda familiar????? Hmmmmmm??? Anyone able to help me out here??? rolleyes.gif


Yea, it's dead. No idea why.
It was an article from the conclusion of last season (as in 2006 season). Basically said Hart was too short, too small and too injury prone to play in the league. Point was to be, nobody with that kind of track record would ever have been considered to be a 1st rounder.

It's irrelevant but I can see why a young kid would get fired up over it. Does he date your daughter slice? Tell him to keep his chin up.

Edited by Victorian, 04 January 2008 - 11:41 PM.


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Posted 04 January 2008 - 11:44 PM

Huh? Wow...I have a gerbil scratching his head at that post. Don't see a damn thing contradicting about my posts. Remember the 2007 Draft? Is thinking back less than 12 months tough for you? Holy hell you are a moron! Peterson and Lynch were the RBs I talked about. See that? They would be the "AP" and "Marshawn Lynch" people I was talking about. Have you gathered that yet? Can you pull your head out of your own butt long enough to read that???

Now, note the statement you highlighted mentioning THE FACT THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT THE 2007 DRAFT!!! Then I state it AGAIN that I am saying that he would have been picked higher in 2007 than it appears he will be in 2008. READ THE F'ING POSTS! I guess I should have known better than to put compound sentences into an easy argument stomping you into the dirt with my heal. Break the sentences highligted down and you'll once again be red in the face. Perhaps I'll rearrange it in a more 1st grade readable manner: In my talk of how he (Hart) have been picked higher in 2007 as opposed to 2008, I do not concern my evaluations of what was stated on ESPN and other sports outlets as to his ranking for this coming 2008 draft after the 2007 season has been complete.

Do I need to define any more words for you? Perhaps you and Bill Clinton should get together, as you both seem to have a keen knack for being incapable of deciphering words for how they are used in common day English. Perhaps his asking about how Kenneth Starr defined "sex" shows more intellect than your struggles to define words such as "it" and "talk" and "2007" and "2008" (those last two are separate years by the way, if you couldn't grasp that, since you are clearly slow-minded. Just thought I'd save you the investment in Ibruprofen for the evening by letting you know that).

What else ya' got, back door trotter? You haven't brought anything to the forefront yet. I thrash the hell outta you again and again and you just stick your thumb up your butt, pull it out and hope it's a tootsie roll over and over again.

God, you're a moron. Good luck. Come on back for more, I love ripping the hell outta f'n idiots.
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Posted 04 January 2008 - 11:49 PM

QUOTE(slice slice baby @ Jan 4 2008, 11:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sounds kinda familiar????? Hmmmmmm??? Anyone able to help me out here??? rolleyes.gif


Sounds like a Michigan fan still sour over the fact he's a Michigan fan. Wow, I can't believe the reaches. This is entertaining. I love an easy beating I can issue like this. Doing this for free is fun. Usually I have someone fighting back, but right now all I see is some little kid screaming "Because I want it!" over and over again in a store when their mom asks why it is exactly that they want it. Same thing over and over again, and just avoids the true nature of the question.
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Posted 04 January 2008 - 11:52 PM

http://www.s8.createphpbb.com/nfldraftdog/...rum=nfldraftdog

http://www.nfldraftdog.com/Mock_Drafts/200..._mock_draft.htm

http://thefootballexpert.com/mockdraftdatabase.html


These are your sites pal. Not mine.

Edited by Victorian, 04 January 2008 - 11:54 PM.


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Posted 04 January 2008 - 11:58 PM

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=305321

Yawn...I am watching Comedy Central right now, but getting many more laughs reading your putrid responses smile.gif

Mike Hart, RB, Michigan. Hart is still considered the top senior back in the country, but he is no longer the first-round lock many believed he would be. His size (5-9, 202) was already considered an issue in terms of his ability to be a durable NFL back. Those fears have been reinforced, if not heightened, as Hart has missed time in the most important season of his career because of injuries. Those concerns will cause NFL teams to shy from using a first-round pick on him.

Sporting News enough for ya'?

I believe this case just got dismissed on summary judgment. Game. Set. Match.

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Edited by WONBulldog, 05 January 2008 - 12:00 AM.

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 12:02 AM

Bout time.

Combine would have and will tear this kid apart.

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 12:03 AM

Oh no...ANOTHER ONE!

http://sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/10414620

CBS Sportsline says that Hart was their only RB that got a first round grade at the beginning of the season? *GASP*

Oh, wait, perhaps I infiltrated that site and changed things just to further my thrashing of you?

Like I said: This is too easy.
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Posted 05 January 2008 - 12:04 AM

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Bout time.


'Bout time what? You knew it the entire time. Just gave me a reason to go off on another idiot.
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Posted 05 January 2008 - 12:12 AM

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I don't know what you were reading that said Hart was ever considered a 1st rounder? His skills and size don't translate well to the NFL at all. He'll get drafted, but I'd be shocked if he lasted more than a few years in the league.


Bout time, as in I asked two days ago and you provided some *******ty ******in links until tonight!



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Posted 05 January 2008 - 12:14 AM

Can't help it I have a memory that remembers things that no human being ever should. Why bother digging deep into the net for something I already knew in the first place and for which you couldn't fight back against with even a feeble attempt? Pathetic, dude.
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Posted 05 January 2008 - 10:04 AM

You do an eloquent job of defining the term pathetic yourself. Total class.

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 10:34 AM

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You do an eloquent job of defining the term pathetic yourself. Total class.


Wow...what a comeback. Took you all night to think of that one? Bottom line, you knew you were wrong, and you avoided the question the entire time when time and time again it was pointed out to you that you were avoiding the question at hand and that you were wrong despite your efforts to change focus. Can't help it you're an easy target when you make such dimwitted statements and efforts to back yourself up. Just take a lesson out of this one: don't argue with ANYONE, you aren't good at it. Smile, nod, and wear a bag over your head so perhaps you can remain inconspicuous and out of the spotlight.
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Posted 05 January 2008 - 11:58 AM

I'm not wrong. Ask any Michigan Football fan and they'll tell you the same thing, Hart won't test well at the combine this year or any year.

The college football season means next to nothing to NFL scouts. Same goes for the NBA. Keep your cool, man it's going to be alright. You just weren't able to win this argument, life will go on.



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Posted 05 January 2008 - 12:21 PM

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Was touted as a likely first round pick last year, now I have heard talk about him dropping out of the first day...


Wow, you just love it when your bunghole bleeds, don't you? How many pints of blood have you had to get pumped back into you at the hospital after taking it up your a$$ time and time again?

Alrighty, got your reading glasses on? Or perhaps have a child in first grade that can read for you and tell you what it says? Because you clearly have problems with it. See what that says above? Says that he was TOUTED as a first round pick. Never said he was GUARANTEED to be a first round pick. Hell, Darren McFadden is TOUTED as a first round pick. No guarantees it'll happen. Can't you understand that? Can't you read? Too busy spending 20 minutes to type a paragraph that watches you back track over and over again.

Let's dissect your last post, shall we? You state you are not wrong. Well...you kind of admitted it earlier when you said "bout time" as to me posting a couple links to other sources touting Hart as a potential first round pick. So, hey, strike one against ya'.

Then you go on to talk about combines. Notice how it talks of how he was touted LAST YEAR before any combines? Can you realize the fact that combines have nothing to do with how someone is touted as a first round pick without any combine? Could you do that? Do you need help comprehending the dynamics of it? There are specialists out there that could help you. You certainly need a lot of help from varying specialists, but they will want to you stop your anal bleeding that has resulted from this recent thrashing.

What else ya' got? Sure hasn't been anything other than you trying to convince yourself you are right by continually stating something to the effect of "Well, I'm right because I said so. I don't care if 100% of everything else says I'm wrong."

Have at it. Ready for another go anytime you want it, Goldilocks.
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Posted 05 January 2008 - 12:24 PM

QUOTE(Victorian @ Jan 5 2008, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Keep your cool, man it's going to be alright. You just weren't able to win this argument, life will go on.


Haven't you notice I enjoy arguing with total dolts? I didn't have to try to win any argument! Yo udid it for me! I thank you for it! You are one of those guys that sinks himself over and over again and leads to stories that you tell fellow associates at happy hour and goes in the "stupid criminal" files.

Life is going on, and quite nicely. I am LOVING this! You are just making my day! I mean, damn, its Saturday and I am getting a NEW stupid human story. That doesn't happen often!

Keep 'em comin'!
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