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[BigGreen]

Wow, didn't read this for a couple of days and a lot has come up....

I think I will always side with TT on this one. Parents in generally, but especially in Ottoville, can be a little absurd. If there was really anything that TT did that was so so so terrible, he wouldn't have made it this far.

Like others have stated, the state of the boys' programs in Ottoville has not been great, and basketball has by far been the most successful.

Good luck to the new coach. I figured that Utendorf would be named the new coach. Noticed that he sat next to the AD during all of the tournament basketball games, boys and girls. It seems like it was in the works.

Truly, best of luck to the new coach. I will always love the Big Green and hope they do well! Hopefully, this guy is the right guy!

And good luck to TT, whatever his next move may be.

[basketballstud]

Rocketman, on 18 April 2017 - 11:00 AM, said:

News travels fast down here in South Fla....last night at the Boathouse in Fort Myers the Koncrete King confirmed our suspicions ...At this months BOE meeting..........former coach of the FJ Musketeers, Keith Utendorf WILL be named the HC @ Ottoville......home of the Big Green AND the mausoleum where coaches go to die.....zooooom

True detective work there being that everyone in the country figured that out 4 weeks ago. TVS will not come back. So your saying TVS told you he is coming back from the dead. For what reason would he ever come back?? Maybe all that sun is making you delusional.

[basketballstud]

BigGreen, on 18 April 2017 - 01:11 PM, said:

Wow, didn't read this for a couple of days and a lot has come up....

I think I will always side with TT on this one. Parents in generally, but especially in Ottoville, can be a little absurd. If there was really anything that TT did that was so so so terrible, he wouldn't have made it this far.

Like others have stated, the state of the boys' programs in Ottoville has not been great, and basketball has by far been the most successful.

Good luck to the new coach. I figured that Utendorf would be named the new coach. Noticed that he sat next to the AD during all of the tournament basketball games, boys and girls. It seems like it was in the works.

Truly, best of luck to the new coach. I will always love the Big Green and hope they do well! Hopefully, this guy is the right guy!


And good luck to TT, whatever his next move may be.

Maybe since TT is so great he can go and coach Jennings. He has coached there before. Can't wait to see that

[Maltese Falcon]

....or things could come full circle and FJ could hire Dick Kortokrax to finish his coaching career where it began.

[von]

Maltese Falcon, on 18 April 2017 - 02:06 PM, said:

....or things could come full circle and FJ could hire Dick Kortokrax to finish his coaching career where it began.

I would go for that to get his 10 wins to reach 900. Never happen. TVS will be back, would be an excellent idea by FJ. He was a good coach. Come on back, Tom.

[Maltese Falcon]

My bet would be current JV coach and FJ alum (class of '04) Ryan Schroeder takes the HC job for the musketeers

[erniefurgler]

Utendorf will be announced at the board meeting tonight. Not sure how "good" of a hire this is, but as previously stated, can imagine there was a stack of resumes for this one. Now who takes over at Continental? PCL is going be a battle of the tallest midget next year. PG has to be the clear cut favorite, can Braidic bring Stinky's their 4th PCL title in school history...all under his multiple regimes??

[flounder]

I would assume that Utendorf knows what he is getting into........he will have no one to blame but himself!!!!!!!!!!!

[basketballstud]

flounder, on 19 April 2017 - 07:13 PM, said:

I would assume that Utendorf knows what he is getting into........he will have no one to blame but himself!!!!!!!!!!!

agreed. Finally we agree on something.

[BigGreen]

IMO, Ottoville went out and got a coach that had a worse record with more talent. But hey, as long as he is nice to the kids and parents, right?

Truly do wish him all of the best. Ottoville needs to good basketball team to keep the town going...

[Outspoken]

If the basketball team fails, the town will crumble??

I see quite a few nice brick homes and new SUV's over there....I think Ottoville, the town, will be just fine.

Some of the things I've read on this thread make me wonder how may thousands of brain cells have been killed by alcohol consumption over there. Geeze

[waterloowonder]

I just had to get in on what is one of the longest running threads in Rocketcorner history. I remember a tall coach back in the 60's wearing a yellow turtleneck and green jacket who liked long practices and was known to intimidate the refs. Hope the Ottoville folks can figure this out and just let the coach alone. In these small towns with graduating classes of 35 kids or so it is hard to put a competitive team on the floor year in and year out.

[basketballstud]

BigGreen, on 20 April 2017 - 06:55 AM, said:

IMO, Ottoville went out and got a coach that had a worse record with more talent. But hey, as long as he is nice to the kids and parents, right?

Truly do wish him all of the best. Ottoville needs to good basketball team to keep the town going...

sounds like your either TT or 1 of his 6 followers. Better luck in your future following TT. On to the next coach and see what that brings. Wish you could delete a whole thread so we could forget TT and the past.

[Mysterio]

Times change. How you were raised back then is different today. How you played sports, how you prepared for them, how you coach how they discipline and how the coach reacts with you is different. I get that some of you want to bring up your past of how things were and try to correlate with what's being discussed here but it's not the same. I get that a few parents might overreact about things but when it's a reoccurring issue and more and more are getting involved then it's something. Like I get what Politics is saying, unless you have a kid involved then it may be difficult to understand. Like I get why parents are saying stuff like this because they are looking out for their kids and It's easy for an outsider to blame the parents, the kids or even the community in general for being soft because they don't have a kid Involved. The other sports seem to be doing ok with their coaches. And I don't fully get the graveyard of coaches deal for boys basketball in Ottoville. I mean coaches leave on different occasions and we can point the finger all we want but who cares so I don't see that being a fair criticism. Either way topics like this are not brought up for no reason so something was brewing up enough in the basketball locker room for this to be mentioned.

Edited by Mysterio, 20 April 2017 - 09:08 AM.

[BigGreen]

General Tso, on 15 April 2017 - 07:08 AM, said:

Politics, thanks for the write-up. I'm not being mean but here's some more proof that's in the pudding. Your Boys Soccer team had a winning percentage of .167 and I was told that Paulding got its first win in the history of its program against you guys. That's not a typo. Golf had a winning percentage of .083. That's not a typo. Boys basketball had a winning percentage of .409 and I might add that that's the highest of all your boys teams. Baseball has a winning percentage of .000. That's not a typo. I was told that Cross County and Track had a team winning percentage that was somewhere between Golf and Soccer. That's not a typo.

Politics, you must be one of those delusional parents. We have a lot of those in Continental also. Your boys programs are bad right now and have been bad for a while. Please accept it. The good news is I know there's some talent coming up and some of those percentages should change.

Maybe TT needed to go. I don't know. I don't have a son that played for him and I don't know him.

P.S. Your boys basketball team will not make it to State next year. I hope your not thinking that you have the talent to do that.

Mysterio, on 20 April 2017 - 09:08 AM, said:

Times change. How you were raised back then is different today. How you played sports, how you prepared for them, how you coach how they discipline and how the coach reacts with you is different. I get that some of you want to bring up your past of how things were and try to correlate with what's being discussed here but it's not the same. I get that a few parents might overreact about things but when it's a reoccurring issue and more and more are getting involved then it's something. Like I get what Politics is saying, unless you have a kid involved then it may be difficult to understand. Like I get why parents are saying stuff like this because they are looking out for their kids and It's easy for an outsider to blame the parents, the kids or even the community in general for being soft because they don't have a kid Involved. The other sports seem to be doing ok with their coaches. And I don't fully get the graveyard of coaches deal for boys basketball in Ottoville. I mean coaches leave on different occasions and we can point the finger all we want but who cares so I don't see that being a fair criticism. Either way topics like this are not brought up for no reason so something was brewing up enough in the basketball locker room for this to be mentioned.

The other coaches may be nice, but they sure aren't winning...

I'm sure if this new basketball coach comes in and posts the same winning percentages as the soccer team and the baseball team this year, he won't last for long. It's almost unfair to compare the basketball coach to the soccer coach and baseball coach.

Was everything perfect? Like Mysterio said, probably not. These things don't come out of nowhere. But were things really as bad as what people say? I doubt that too. Sure, I don't have a kid playing basketball at Ottoville right now, so I don't fully understand.

I just don't think we made a good move here...

Edited by BigGreen, 20 April 2017 - 09:54 AM.

[Mysterio]

Well with all due respect Big Green is boys basketball winning? Actually i disagree about other sports not winning. Boys soccer is doing pretty good. Ya they had a bad season last year but there was good reasons for that and that was their first season the program had a losing record in the history of that program. The other years they were either competing in districts or getting to the regionals. Hate to say this but boys soccer has been more of a winning culture than boys basketball in the last decade or so. Either way that's besides the point.

People can over exaggerate things I get it but like I said if it's a reoccurring thing from what I hear over there and kids are just not motivated anymore and you just can't fill a team which seems like that's been the case then maybe it is time for a change. You gotta remember Ottoville is not a big town that you can just go around cutting people and do whatever you please. You gotta adjust. You gotta motivate kids in high school to play your sport otherwise they won't play. They are not getting paid to play, if anything they are paying to play your sport so if they don't feel obligated to play they won't and who's to blame them? They are kids. That's the risk you take when coaching in a small town.

Edited by Mysterio, 20 April 2017 - 10:31 AM.

[BigGreen]

Mysterio,

I agree. The soccer team has been very successful in the past with trips to regionals on a couple of occasions. This season was pretty bad though. Hopefully it gets better soon. Not to get off topic (I'm not living in Ottoville anymore but I try to keep up as much as possible), but what good reasons were there for their struggles this season?

Motivating kids to play sports in a small town seems to be getting harder and harder. Hopefully the new coach will do exactly that, and we see enough kids to field a full team, JV and varsity.

Also, you're right. Basketball hasn't been "winning".... but .409 is better than .0167, 0.083, and 0.000.

Edited by BigGreen, 20 April 2017 - 10:48 AM.

[Mysterio]

Injuries, kids quitting (good players too) and youth. They only had 2 seniors I think. Plus I think they lost a lot of 1-2 goal differential games. But the kids that quit did not quit because of the coaches. it was more focusing on one sport or some other reason. But they will be good next season with more kids coming back and the experience from last year.

But yes motivating kids is tough especially with what's all available out in this world these days. I think the new coach will do fine. He seems to be great with kids and like i said motivating kids in a small town is key and if you arare good with kids you got the tough part figured out.

Edited by Mysterio, 20 April 2017 - 11:10 AM.

[von]

Mysterio, on 20 April 2017 - 11:07 AM, said:

Injuries, kids quitting (good players too) and youth. They only had 2 seniors I think. Plus I think they lost a lot of 1-2 goal differential games. But the kids that quit did not quit because of the coaches. it was more focusing on one sport or some other reason. But they will be good next season with more kids coming back and the experience from last year.

But yes motivating kids is tough especially with what's all available out in this world these days. I think the new coach will do fine. He seems to be great with kids and like i said motivating kids in a small town is key and if you arare good with kids you got the tough part figured out.

Good luck to the new coach at Ottoville, plus I believe he teaches at Ottoville. He can't do any worse than the previous one. I heard they have a great 8th grade class coming up, so we shall see. Sometimes, change is good, hopefully it will be. Give him a chance, please. Thank you. Go Big Green......

[FlightCrew]

von, on 20 April 2017 - 05:22 PM, said:

Good luck to the new coach at Ottoville, plus I believe he teaches at Ottoville. He can't do any worse than the previous one. I heard they have a great 8th grade class coming up, so we shall see. Sometimes, change is good, hopefully it will be. Give him a chance, please. Thank you. Go Big Green......

Ehh, they got 1 kid who is pretty solid who could get varsity minutes next year.