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[Rocketman]

Mysterio, on 15 March 2015 - 07:26 AM, said:

I don't know that this 52 was even that impressive. She was just taller than everyone. She had one move down low and that's it. Be interesting to see how she do against a team that has someone closer to her height.

You don't find many 6'3 girls playing D4 basketball....so I don't think she'll encounter many matchups with
a player her own size. I always thought Kleman a good coach evidenced by his record. But maybe he just got
out-coached in this one.....no way in hell I'm letting 1 player outscore my entire team. If one player can't
guard her, have two.....if two can't get it done, try 3..(you did say that they had no other offensive threats
right?).....if 3 can't do it, well then I'd go with a 2X2...2 in front, 2 in back.....I would MAKE someone else score..
Ottoville didn't and thus it ended its season on a sour note.....the FSW players did what they were told to do...
Feed the big girl until they stopped it...evidently they didn't/couldn't..... game, set, match.....RM

[harry419419]

I bet the only team that had anyone close to her size was LB. I missed that game but I do remember seeing the boxscore & she only had 5 pts & their team only had 18 or 19. I wonder how she looked that night.

[PostPlayer]

Rocketman - you have to see it to believe it on how FSW wins games. I have seen it up close and personal against Arlington and also earlier in the year in regular season. It's just not that simple to stop a girl who is 6'3" and most likely 200+ pounds that rarely misses from 5 feet and in. Having said that, Arlington had them beat in the way I think you have to beat them - make their guards beat constant pressure. The biggest issue w/ FSW is figuring out how to score - they will take away ALL 5 feet and in baskets - count on that. They also box 1 your best guard. It's just a really odd scenario to figure out. At some point, Troike will get her points and while I agree she is not flashy and not what you would think when you see her box score every night, she still rarely misses. The supporting cast is very, very limited but they just toss it up and almost always will get the benefit of the doubt inside on calls - that's the hard part. She is very tall already, but the two games I saw, you cannot get a call against her by attacking her, you may as well turn it over out front or take a long 3. She simply does not get fouls called against her - and that makes it even more difficult. Bottom line - work on getting Rutter in foul trouble and it's over. She is the engine that gets it up the floor and gets it to Troike. If she fouls out - it's lights out for FSW. Tough to figure them out...good luck to who's up next. In the meantime, I will spend the next six months stewing over how Atown lost this one against FSW.

[PostPlayer]

Harry - FSW held the ball against them - that's why the score was so low. Like 30-19 or something.

[FlightCrew]

Why didn't they trap the guard and force her to give it up? Sounds like she's the one that really needs taken out....the big girl is gonna get hers regardless what you try and do.

[FlightCrew]

BTW This sounds awful. Glad I didn't go. lol

[Mysterio]

Post hit it spot on with his comment. I was a little disappointed with Ottoville and how they didn't make any adjustments in guarding her. They did not once force FSW to shoot outside shot. The rest of FSW is limited and seemed no threat in scoring the ball. They are careless with the ball when being pressured which is why I have no idea why ottoville did not press or put more pressure on them. For a regional finals game it was hard to watch at times.

[kaizen]

sounds like abby seifker reincarnated

[polkhigh33]

FSW has won 24 games and made it to the final four.....and they are one of the smallest schools in the state. No one on here or anywhere else should be criticizing them. This is the best thing to happen at that school athletically in ages.

[Mysterio]

polkhigh33, on 15 March 2015 - 10:18 AM, said:

FSW has won 24 games and made it to the final four.....and they are one of the smallest schools in the state. No one on here or anywhere else should be criticizing them. This is the best thing to happen at that school athletically in ages.

Well no offense but it's like your acting as if we should pitty them? I'm just making an observation of what I saw. Dont have to like it. Small school or big school. Doesn't matter.

[Rocketman]

polkhigh33, on 15 March 2015 - 10:18 AM, said:

FSW has won 24 games and made it to the final four.....and they are one of the smallest schools in the state. No one on here or anywhere else should be criticizing them. This is the best thing to happen at that school athletically in ages.

Polk Salad,
Couldn't agree more.......

[Captain_Brinn]

I didn't go to the game but from the sounds of it and the articles written that Ottoville played bad for them.....so I know that feeling all to well. One bad game and you're out....just like Ottoville did to Crestview. I wonder how Crestview's Bauer would have done against their big girl....Bauer is quick and can float out away from the basket and hit shots.

Good Luck to Fostoria St Wendy's.
Good season to Ottoville.

[BlueJay]

She's a junior I believe.

[FlightCrew]

The ball don't lie..the basketball God's will make it right.
Ft Loramie or Berlin Hiland will take care of this.....

[Rocketman]

BlueJay, on 15 March 2015 - 11:31 AM, said:

She's a junior I believe.

Two different players....
Tigger is talking about Richwood Union girl

[BlueJay]

basketballstud, on 15 March 2015 - 03:58 PM, said:

we Must have watched 2 different games. And that's probably your first game you watched all season. #52 is not athletic but played very well against us. IMO coach Kleman never adjusted. Plan and simple. Good Luck Mohawks! I will be down there to watch.

I was close to the bench and Coach Kleman seemed out of his element. He went from screaming at #25 for shooting the ball and then when she wasn't shooting, he took her out and screamed at her and asked her why she wasn't shooting. Just very flustered

[TiGgEr3]

Rocketman, on 15 March 2015 - 12:06 PM, said:

Two different players....
Tigger is talking about Richwood Union girl

Thank you for the clarification for them on that. I was trying to make a comparison as to Troike and the girl from North Union being drastically different but I see how it could've been confusing so I've deleted my post.

[Mysterio]

BlueJay, on 15 March 2015 - 05:06 PM, said:

I was close to the bench and Coach Kleman seemed out of his element. He went from screaming at #25 for shooting the ball and then when she wasn't shooting, he took her out and screamed at her and asked her why she wasn't shooting. Just very flustered

Ya Ottoville passed up on a lot of open looks especially outside the arc. It's like most of them didn't even look to shoot and felt the need to drive to the basket to only get blocked countless times by 52. Like I said, there was no adjustment on offense or on defense. Don't understand why Ottoville didn't press the heck out of them because outside of 52, they didn't seem to have any real threat offensively. And why exactly was the Lindeman girl (one of the best players on the Ottoville team) standing out in the corner while they were going 4 v 4? Didn't make sense to me.

Also did I see that right that 52 played the entire game? I kept thinking to myself what is this team like without her on the floor? She had 2 fouls early in the game I thought and the coach kept her out there. Really shows that team thrives through her.

Edited by Mysterio, 16 March 2015 - 08:15 AM.

[Hagen]

Can we just call it like it is? FSW beat a classic PCL team & the locals don't like it because FSW isn't a classic power.
-FSW is a good team at 24-4. You can't fluke into that. They have a 6-3 monster of a post in Troike & they run their system perfectly around it. They don't have the team talent others do (only play 6 girls), but they run a system that maximizes the skills of everyone on their team to succeed (if you're not good offensively, don't shoot. Make your living on defense). Isn't that what a team is supposed to do? Well, they're doing it. Their coach has everyone buying in to a specific style of play & it's yielding results.
-As was posted many times already, Ottoville was out coached and didn't adjust throughout the night. It happens. They had a fantastic season & entering the tournament, they too were not supposed to make it this far (#4 district seed). Great run given a 15-7 regular season & next year they'll try to make it at least one game further.
-Whether beautiful or ugly, FSW is going to the Final 4 & I don't think anyone there really cares how they did it. They made it & they're playing with house money. Why should they change their style now? They're not going to jack 20 threes next game because "it MIGHT help them win." Keep feeding the beast & everyone else chip in on good shots. It's worked so far, so might as well ride the wave. Congrats to them & good luck repping NW Ohio.

[Mysterio]

Hagen that's kind of what I was doing. Calling it like it is. I mean just talking basketball is all. This has nothing to do with FSW not being a power house or anything like that. Records can be deceiving though. To me it's all about the eye ball test. And for me on Saturday night was not very impressive from what my eyes told me. If the system they use works, that's great but eventually it will not and how they are winning games will eventually not work. Not sure on how Waterford is, but they will have to adjust against a team like Berlin Hiland or Fort Loramie cuz those teams are very well coached down in state.

Edited by Mysterio, 16 March 2015 - 08:30 AM.