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[old coach]

According to sources Quincy at his interview told the interviewers don't hire me just to get the players at LCC to come back to LSH because that's not going to happen. I'm not going to pull them out of the stable situation they are in now. Besides that all three would have to sit out 11 games because of the OHSAA's new transfer rules.

[Rocketman]

old coach, on 30 April 2014 - 08:21 AM, said:

According to sources Quincy at his interview told the interviewers don't hire me just to get the players at LCC to come back to LSH because that's not going to happen. I'm not going to pull them out of the stable situation they are in now. Besides that all three would have to sit out 11 games because of the OHSAA's new transfer rules.

I do not believe that statement for a second...

[mysteryman2014]

I dont think they would have to sit out.
Going from a private school to a city school.
Also there is a Thomas kid and a Miller kid that went from Shawnee to LSH and didnt miss a game.
Can someone explain the rule that knows it for sure.
Thanks

[whodey]

Mystery- They WOULD have to sit out half of regular season (11 games)..This rule has been changed since Thomas and Miller switched..
I believe Old Coach. I believe the 3 at LCC would stay put

[SpartanDome]

whodey, on 30 April 2014 - 11:50 AM, said:

Mystery- They WOULD have to sit out half of regular season (11 games)..This rule has been changed since Thomas and Miller switched..
I believe Old Coach. I believe the 3 at LCC would stay put

Not sure when Thomas and Miller switched but the new transfer rule created in May 2013. There are six exceptions to having to sit out half of any sports season (11 games for basketball) The most logical one for Thomas and Miller is if they moved from one district to another. If they lived in Shawnee and attended Shawnee but moved to Lima then they would not have to sit out. If any of the three from LCC live with another parent(s) outside of Lima City School district then they would qualify for one of the exceptions. The OHSAA does not have the man power to check on every single transfer in the State, they are relying on local Athletic Directors to check and verify if the transfer fits the exceptions.

Edited by SpartanDome, 30 April 2014 - 01:49 PM.

[mysteryman2014]

SpartanDome, on 30 April 2014 - 12:45 PM, said:

Not sure when Thomas and Miller switched but the new transfer rule created in May 2013. Their are six exceptions to having to sit out half of any sports season (11 games for basketball) The most logical one for Thomas and Miller is if the moved from one district to another. If they lived in Shawnee and attended Shawnee but moved to Lima then they would not have to sit out. If any of the three from LCC live with another parent(s) outside of Lima City School district then they would qualify for one of the exceptions. The OHSAA does not have the man power to check on every single transfer in the State, they are relying on local Athletic Directors to check and verify if the transfer fits the exceptions.

So thats how its done.

[dw629]

whodey, on 30 April 2014 - 11:50 AM, said:

Mystery- They WOULD have to sit out half of regular season (11 games)..This rule has been changed since Thomas and Miller switched..
I believe Old Coach. I believe the 3 at LCC would stay put

I don't know many ppl who would coach a rival school and have their own son who is one of the best PGs in the state play and compete against him a mile or two down the road. 100% X will come back and 90% chance others will come back.

LCC will be back to reality in hurry both bball and football.

[SpartanDome]

old coach, on 30 April 2014 - 08:21 AM, said:

According to sources Quincy at his interview told the interviewers don't hire me just to get the players at LCC to come back to LSH because that's not going to happen. I'm not going to pull them out of the stable situation they are in now. Besides that all three would have to sit out 11 games because of the OHSAA's new transfer rules.

Not sure if that would make sense. I would bet a ton that if Q gets the job then X will be at Lima Senior High for sure. I find it very unprofessional if in fact one of the interviewers would tell anyone that Q said this or anything that was said in the interview.

dw629 - If you heard that Davis "knocked his interview out of the park"? I would also repeat that it is very unprofessional for anyone of the interviewers to say anything outside what was said inside during the interview process. Secondly if it came from Davis, I would hope that he would not have said that he did horrible in his interview no matter what happened. I would think all the candidates would say they did well.

[fortfan]

flounder, on 30 April 2014 - 06:20 AM, said:

Rocketman........

I don't know what is up with our slicer......it's like she fell off the face of the earth.....who knows, maybe she is searching through the bowels of Lima in hopes of getting the scoop on this Lima Senior hire!!!!!

Well, at least I'm not the only one that can't get an answer from her.

[old coach]

You can call Roxanne Price at the OHSAA and she will explain the transfer rule for you. If all three boys in question reside in the Lima City School's system which they do all three will have to sit out the first 11 games of the 2014-2015 season if they transfer.

[juan]

it's not about the kids transferring back to Lima Senior, it's about getting a coach to get the kids to put forth max effort.

believe me lcc does not want this hire to take place. the talent pool on s. cable would quickly dry up.

[NWbballfan]

If they do have to sit out the first 11 games, at what cost will it be to them to still have the second half of there junior season, the tournament, and a full senior season. Not to mention the sophomores already in place at lima sr in flowers, stafford and Thomas. PLUS all of these guys play AAU ball. IMO they all will head to senior high if coach Q gets the job whether they have to sit the first half out or not.

[SpartanDome]

old coach, on 30 April 2014 - 03:09 PM, said:

You can call Roxanne Price at the OHSAA and she will explain the transfer rule for you. If all three boys in question reside in the Lima City School's system which they do all three will have to sit out the first 11 games of the 2014-2015 season if they transfer.

No need for an explanation. I can read and understand the rule. The exception I stated was if they live with a parent(s)in a different school district outside of the Lima City School district and move into the city then they would fulfill the bylaw 4-7-2 (Link below)
http://www.ohsaa.org...idance_Exc1.pdf
I believe X's parents are divorced and Mom lives outside the district.

[Dman]

If any of the hypothetical boomerang players return to Lima Senior from any school, those who have at least one parent living in Senior's school district could probably make the "bona fide" move argument to avoid penalty.

I'm more concerned with how this possibility affects RC and our good natured ribbing of the LCC faithful. For example, should the boomerang land off course...would we THEN be allowed to commentate about how "border stretching" assisted their State Championship and 3rd place NWC finish this season? Or does proper decorum dictate that we keep pretending superior academics, coaching, and work ethic were the primary keys to success?

It would take years to sort out all the simmering crow from Cable road.

That could be very uncomfortable for all of us... ...or some of us!

P.S. I think they are a very good team with or without the hypothetical boomerangs. Maybe not 3rd place NWC good, but very good none-the-less.

[Rd2Glory]

For the record, one would have to have attended Lima Senior prior to switching to St. Charles in 7th grade to be considered "going back" to Lima Senior. I don't believe that is the case with each of these "boomerang" players, Xavier Simpson in particular. I don't know when (or from where) the others transferred to the Catholic grade schools.

My two cents on the LSH hiring process:

Doug Davis is the far superior coach, BUT, if winning basketball games is what they want, Q should be the hire. Those kids will definitely work for Q and buy into his program, at least initially.

[Coach]

The talent that LSH already has will make them a tough out once they learn how to play defense. IF the other 3 transfer back, look out!

[Dman]

By three...I assume you're just talking about the LCC boomerangs. There are other players from local schools too. A lot would have to happen for it all to come together...but none of it is unrealistic.

This is the reason I opined earlier that a trip to Columbus as soon as next year is VERY possible for Senior.

I'm not endorsing it. Just stating the reality of the situation.

Also, I will repeat again. Q can coach. Anybody who believes this is just a "typical" AAU headmaster who is all offense and show...has no idea. THEY WILL PLAY DEFENSE OR THEY WON'T PLAY.

This does not mean I think he is better than DD et al. But I always sense there is this underlying disrespect given to Q because he happens to be in AAU.

Who knows what Senior wants... But it looks like they are going too get a good one regardless of the path they choose.

[NWbballfan]

I still don't see how Davis is considered a great choice. He is a decent coach but he is not great. He's had some success the past couple of years with probably the best talent bath has had in 15 years. IMO he would be a 'good ol boy' hire.

Edited by NWbballfan, 01 May 2014 - 01:49 PM.

[Dman]

Your entitled to that opinion...but Davis did a good job at Delphos too. If Q didn't want this job, Davis probably makes the most sense to most people. I could see why Senior would go in either direction...and simultaneously see reasons not to... Glad I am not on that committee. I suggest there will be some criticism no matter who they choose.

[cameroncrazie90]

If you wanna be good for a couple years then hire Q, he'll get you a couple good players. But if you want a REAL coach, hire Davis. It's that simple.