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Winning Waynesfield-Goshen Coach Patton steps down mid-season, with star player daughter following suit...


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#21 charliesheen

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 01:27 PM

 Bobby, on 21 January 2014 - 11:46 AM, said:

St. Henry and St. Marys are public schools, too. :) Rules are the same for both public and private.

Bobby....don't worry....I wasn't including your St. Jays in my previous post.....lol


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Posted 21 January 2014 - 03:03 PM

Haven't been to a Waynesfield game nor do I know any of the players or the coach involved, but I do wonder about something. This is not the coach's first year at Waynesfield. Did his coaching style change this year or would the players have entered the season knowing full well of his Bobby Knight style of coaching? If they knew how he was, I feel they should have sucked it up and finished the year. If he changed his style and suddenly became a coach who screams and belittles players, then I understand. So, which is it?

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 05:56 PM

I could be wrong here, but not only will she not play the remainder of the season, she will also have to sit the first half of next season? Unless they move into the school district? I'm putting question marks because I'm not sure, but this is what someone told me the new transfer rule is.

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 06:10 PM

She would have to move to the new school district sometime before some date which I do not know in the Summer. She could also move in to a separate residence with one parent while the other parent remains at old residence. A third option is to let her live with a friend or relative, but I believe they would have to legally become her guardian.

All his would be watched closely by fans and parents of her former school and the OHSAA

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 06:16 PM

I am posting this on behalf of new poster "#30". He/she seems to have had a li'l trouble in figuring out our posting system, which I will leave instructions for future use following this post.

 charliesheen, on 20 January 2014 - 11:18 PM, said:

Waynefield is a public school....so is Wapak. No way the OHSAA allows this transfer to happen.....now if both schools decide to put St. In front of their name......well......

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I can speak for the freashman post that left the team, there has not been any contact with another school for open enrollement, or plans to move
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Posted 21 January 2014 - 07:29 PM

 slice slice baby, on 21 January 2014 - 06:16 PM, said:

I am posting this on behalf of new poster "#30". He/she seems to have had a li'l trouble in figuring out our posting system, which I will leave instructions for future use following this post.



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Waynefield is a public school....so is Wapak. No way the OHSAA allows this transfer to happen.....now if both schools decide to put St. In front of their name......well......
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I can speak for the freashman post that left the team, there has not been any contact with another school for open enrollement, or plans to move


She should be able to transfer next year to another school for personal reasons, and I would say these are personal reasons. We need to keep the best interest of the student in mind. Things like this happen once in while, so do not blame the player. I wish her and the other transfer the best of luck.

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 12:03 PM

If the coach is gone, is there a need to transfer? Understand von, but when you say "best interests" that's a huge, vague area. So is "personal reasons". It may be in the best interests for Joey to transfer 4 times in 4 years in high school, but are those interests so he can align himself better for a college scholarship, is it academic, is there bullying issues??? I do not envy the committee that has to look at these transfer requests. I bet they get everything under the sun for reasons to transfer.

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 05:28 PM

Being a parent of one of the girls that left the team, this is not a good situation for the school,Ted,or the players. The coach was verbally battering my daughter to the point where her nerves were over taking her sleep her eating and her everyday life. Coach Patton displayed himself in the locker room at the Elida tourney in a manner that was unexceptable and the whole team was present and team members also went home and told their parents if it. Mind you, our assistant coach is also our guidance counselor!!!!! He is to protect our children! When my daughter came home and to me what coach had did I called him. He did tell my daughter to hand her uniform in!! So he told her to! She continued to play and the badgering continued to the next game when we played Bluffton! Called a timeout just to yell at my daughter. The list goes in..... The coach asked for it.. He wanted her to quit!!! His daughter and my daughter have played together since third grade together and "in my opinion" he wanted all attention on his daughter. I am saddened by this cause these two know each other like peanut butter & jelly!!! They knew where each other were on the court!!!!! I hope at his next coaching job he really means what he says when he tells a player to hand their uniform in! Choose your words wisely!! They may come back to haunt you!!! Ballers Mom!

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 07:30 PM

 ballersmom, on 22 January 2014 - 05:28 PM, said:

Being a parent of one of the girls that left the team, this is not a good situation for the school,Ted,or the players. The coach was verbally battering my daughter to the point where her nerves were over taking her sleep her eating and her everyday life. Coach Patton displayed himself in the locker room at the Elida tourney in a manner that was unexceptable and the whole team was present and team members also went home and told their parents if it. Mind you, our assistant coach is also our guidance counselor!!!!! He is to protect our children! When my daughter came home and to me what coach had did I called him. He did tell my daughter to hand her uniform in!! So he told her to! She continued to play and the badgering continued to the next game when we played Bluffton! Called a timeout just to yell at my daughter. The list goes in..... The coach asked for it.. He wanted her to quit!!! His daughter and my daughter have played together since third grade together and "in my opinion" he wanted all attention on his daughter. I am saddened by this cause these two know each other like peanut butter & jelly!!! They knew where each other were on the court!!!!! I hope at his next coaching job he really means what he says when he tells a player to hand their uniform in! Choose your words wisely!! They may come back to haunt you!!! Ballers Mom!

Hopefully his coaching carer is over, this is HS ball, not ncaa. Good luck with your daughter she deserves better.

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 10:13 PM

As a parent of a former player, this has been a long time coming. And to those who are saying that today's kids need to get tougher, I agree, but this goes well beyond needing to get a thicker skin.

I feel bad that the only senior on the team has to deal with this during her last year of basketball. But I feel even worse for the MANY girls that have given up the game because of this man.

Edited by tigerfan, 22 January 2014 - 10:31 PM.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 09:54 AM

Sad story. ballersmom, thanks for sharing. There is no place for that in high school sports. Some of those things happen at big schools because they have dozens of other kids who'll take that spot, but for small schools, coaches have to use some common sense.

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 10:23 PM

Omg!! If what I just heard turns out to come to fruition, it will be the craziest move ever!
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Posted 23 January 2014 - 10:41 PM

Slicer, please share the details.........we can't stand not knowing.........LJ
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Posted 24 January 2014 - 12:10 AM

 LimaJock, on 23 January 2014 - 10:41 PM, said:

Slicer, please share the details.........we can't stand not knowing.........LJ
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Posted 24 January 2014 - 08:16 AM

To answer some of the questions asked in previous posts. Coach Patton has always coached with clear expectations known by both athletes and their parents. Both athletes who quit the team knew very well the expectations and accountability required to play for him. Not only do his athletes understand the commitment he has to the program, and expects from them, he also opens his home to them often. It is my understanding that one of the players who quit spent a considerable amount of time in his home over the New Year, which would have been AFTER the Elida game. If my daughter and I were having such a horrible time under his coaching, then I certainly would not allow her to be in his home?

I have known Coach Patton for about 20 years, worked for him, and know his family well. In all of those years, I cannot remember him saying the 'F' word. Nope, not once. I would surprise me, that if he doesn't use that language in adult conversation on a regular basis, and he has been very upset with me, that he uses it in the locker room.

On the note that Coach Patton will do anything to insure the success of his own children, may I remind you of another Patton daughter, coached by someone other than her father, who also scored over 1000 points in her career at WG? Lisa graduated in 1997, I believe, and scored over 1000 points while another WG athlete, only 2 years older, did the same. Yep, that means that there was a Patton who could pour in the points as a Freshman and Sophomore while another player was doing the same in her Junior and Senior year. Perhaps there is a bit of talent in the genetics as well?

The bottom line is this, if you aren't satisfied, then fix it. But, please, take into consideration the other athletes and their families impacted by your decision.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 02:41 PM

 Blue and Gold, on 24 January 2014 - 08:16 AM, said:

To answer some of the questions asked in previous posts. Coach Patton has always coached with clear expectations known by both athletes and their parents. Both athletes who quit the team knew very well the expectations and accountability required to play for him. Not only do his athletes understand the commitment he has to the program, and expects from them, he also opens his home to them often. It is my understanding that one of the players who quit spent a considerable amount of time in his home over the New Year, which would have been AFTER the Elida game. If my daughter and I were having such a horrible time under his coaching, then I certainly would not allow her to be in his home?

I have known Coach Patton for about 20 years, worked for him, and know his family well. In all of those years, I cannot remember him saying the 'F' word. Nope, not once. I would surprise me, that if he doesn't use that language in adult conversation on a regular basis, and he has been very upset with me, that he uses it in the locker room.

On the note that Coach Patton will do anything to insure the success of his own children, may I remind you of another Patton daughter, coached by someone other than her father, who also scored over 1000 points in her career at WG? Lisa graduated in 1997, I believe, and scored over 1000 points while another WG athlete, only 2 years older, did the same. Yep, that means that there was a Patton who could pour in the points as a Freshman and Sophomore while another player was doing the same in her Junior and Senior year. Perhaps there is a bit of talent in the genetics as well?

The bottom line is this, if you aren't satisfied, then fix it. But, please, take into consideration the other athletes and their families impacted by your decision.

I have watched this team for the last several years and you know where the focus is and who he wants to score. Leaving them in with 2:00 left in a game up by 15 to pad the stats was a common occurrence. It also appeared to me over the summer who his players were during the summer when only some players were invited to a "team" breakfast, not all of them. So saying he cares about his team rings hollow.

Also, he has been like this for years, ask anybody who has played against Waynesfield and you will get the same answer. He was a poor representative of the school and the school district. Expectations and accountability are one thing but watching a whole team play scared because one mistake and off to the bench you go to be screamed at, except the aforementioned daughter. When the rules differ for one player, and it is obvious, versus the rest of the team things need to change.

In terms of success of the program, what success? I can't name a time WG has beaten a team with equal or better TALENT. We are constantly out coached. The NWCC is not the strongest conference and our sectional has been filled by teams with losing records yet winning the. sectional is treated like a state title.

Our Junior High programs have been successful but the numbers get gutted every year. Last years 8th grade team, 8 girls go 35-2 over a two year period and they start the season down to 4 members. Most teams with that kind of success keep all of them playing. 1 senior, 2 juniors and 13 total players to start the year. Absolutely terrible that girls just stop playing.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 02:55 PM

Wasn't there an assistant coach that could have taken over?

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 03:04 PM

you thought Obama Care was bad , try Patton Care,

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 03:09 PM

It's too bad McCarthur said "I shall return", instead of Patton. Then I would have a knee slapper

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 03:38 PM

 lepiota, on 24 January 2014 - 02:55 PM, said:

Wasn't there an assistant coach that could have taken over?

Yes, Doug Foley was the Varsity Assistant with Morgan Rogers being the JV coach. Foley was approved as the new Var Coach at Monday mornings special school board meeting while Coach Rogers was approved as Asst. (Per the agenda for the meeting that is posted on the WG website.)

Edited by tigerfan, 24 January 2014 - 03:38 PM.








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