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[effingA]

Doesn't matter... he quit.

[NWbballfan]

Law left the team because he did not agree with how frye went about certain things. Law is a good guy and frye may have taken some things overboard. He has been a long time wapak guy and was a good offensive coordinator, knows how to run a spread system. But he did walk out on his team no matter what way you look at it. I had even hear rumor that law considered quitting the year before after another frye temper tantrum in the locker room at Defiance.

[effingA]

Agree he's a good guy... Not sure he is the guy to do that job.

[wapak_redskin_fan]

People are saying he is a good offensive coordinator and knows how to run the spread offense where did he run the spread at? There is a big difference running a offense at the freshman level compared to the varsity level. Didn't Frye in a game last year actually take over calling the plays. If there was rumors of him considering quitting the year before why come back and then walk out on the team the way he did. was that fair to the seniors on the team?

[The Guilty Bystander]

wapak_redskin_fan, on 25 December 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

People are saying he is a good offensive coordinator and knows how to run the spread offense where did he run the spread at? There is a big difference running a offense at the freshman level compared to the varsity level.

As someone who has coached every level from 7th grade through college, I'll respectfully disagree with the part I bolded. Football is football, and the guys that get in trouble are the ones who try to make it more complex. If you look at Gus Malzahn at Auburn, he's running the exact same offense he ran at Springdale HS in Arkansas.

Chip Kelly is doing almost exactly what he did at Oregon for the Philadelphia Eagles.

You relate the material and adapt it to your talent. That's what a great coach does.

[wapak_redskin_fan]

Your point is well taken Guilty Bystander but I still do not feel that Law is the answer for Wapakoneta football, I have heard that in the past Coach Fell gave him the chance to run the offense and it was horrible and he finally took the offense over himself and went to the playoffs the next year. Anybody with any ties to Wapakoneta know that Mark Law and Todd Erb can not stand each other and would never be able to work together. I think of the people listed in this thread and feel Coach Patterson would be the most sensible choice. He has been with Coach Frye several years at St. Marys and a couple here at Wapakoneta, he knows the kids and has helped run the weight room and conditioning for the past couple of years and knows what Coach Frye has done to turn this program around.

[wapak_redskin_fan]

Heard at the basketball game that the St. Marys kids were tweeting that Coach Frye and Bo was in the weight room with them and they was welcoming him back. If this is true he needs to let the Wapak Administration know if he is the Coach here at Wapakoneta or if he is going back. Our kids could of been back in the weight room by now but they are not, yet he is lifting the St. Marys kids while the Wapakoneta kids sit idle.

[dartmaster63]

I agree
If it is a done deal, then lets move forward with the search for a new head football coach.
Its only right that the Wapak admin, players, parents and staff can move forward with a new leader as soon as possible.
Personally, I like Coach Frye and and hope he stays, but I do understand if he chooses to return to St Marys.
I think its the wrong choice for many reasons, but sometimes the allure of past success can be very strong.
Having had kids in the program every year since Frye has been in Wapak, I know that there are pluses and minuses with his coaching style.
Having said that, I thank Coach Frye for his 4 years in Wapak, and wish him well in whatever the future holds for him.
There are many good football coaches out there that can lead, teach, win, and develop young men.
My hope would be to see the continuation of the positives, the ongoing expectations of success and the future growth of our student athletes.
Go 'Skins!

Edited by dartmaster63, 31 December 2013 - 01:54 PM.

[the_beezer]

Im very appreciate of what Frye did for us but all signs indicate he left our program for St. Marys. To leave a program with talent no levy issues for a winless, levy issue, soccer on the rise program needs his head looked at. I have chuckled a few times this week because of the name being brought up. Talked to a parent of someone in the program and they said MAUK. In the next few days have had 3 friends call and say they heard MAUK was very interested in the job. Which I cant see him leaving Kenton but think about it for a minute. A larger talent pool to develop plus a field that is made for his offense.

[effingA]

Prolly Ben not Mike

[the_beezer]

effingA, on 28 December 2013 - 12:24 PM, said:

Prolly Ben not Mike

Yes I agree it is Ben. What would the Wapak faithful think about this. It is interesting but would have to worry about when he would leave for Kenton.

[the_beezer]

wapak_redskin_fan, on 27 December 2013 - 09:55 AM, said:

Your point is well taken Guilty Bystander but I still do not feel that Law is the answer for Wapakoneta football, I have heard that in the past Coach Fell gave him the chance to run the offense and it was horrible and he finally took the offense over himself and went to the playoffs the next year. Anybody with any ties to Wapakoneta know that Mark Law and Todd Erb can not stand each other and would never be able to work together. I think of the people listed in this thread and feel Coach Patterson would be the most sensible choice. He has been with Coach Frye several years at St. Marys and a couple here at Wapakoneta, he knows the kids and has helped run the weight room and conditioning for the past couple of years and knows what Coach Frye has done to turn this program around.

I don't know much about Patterson but he has problems with teams that run a spread offense.

[NWbballfan]

I don't see Patterson as a head coach. Good assistant though.

[flyerball23]

Any idea when an official announcement will be? Seems to be wasting a lot of time that he could get working with his new team and his old team could be looking for a replacement. Are both his sons teachers in the Wapak district?

One thing this has done is brought life back to St Marys football. Heard alot of positive chatter from the St Marys faithful and saw some kids posting things on twitter. The one that stuck out to me was "looking like we'll be winning next year."

[the_beezer]

flyerball23, on 30 December 2013 - 05:19 PM, said:

Any idea when an official announcement will be? Seems to be wasting a lot of time that he could get working with his new team and his old team could be looking for a replacement. Are both his sons teachers in the Wapak district?

One thing this has done is brought life back to St Marys football. Heard alot of positive chatter from the St Marys faithful and saw some kids posting things on twitter. The one that stuck out to me was "looking like we'll be winning next year."

I agree that time is being wasted here. Their is no off time for alot of programs now when the season ends your in winter lifting.

[the_beezer]

A st. marys kid was talking about Bo being in the weight room helping the kids with lifting. If this is true Wapak better be finding a coach so these kids have a chance to see what way the program is headed. What offense and defense will be run and most important getting the kids in for lifting and keeping them on a schedule.

[tunnelvision]

It'd be funny if he pulled a Mack and said "since this story leaked out, I've decided to stay at Wapak"

[The Owl]

the_beezer, on 30 December 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

A st. marys kid was talking about Bo being in the weight room helping the kids with lifting. If this is true Wapak better be finding a coach so these kids have a chance to see what way the program is headed. What offense and defense will be run and most important getting the kids in for lifting and keeping them on a schedule.

I have several questions that beg answers if indeed Bo Frye or any members of the 2013 Wapak football staff is already in the SM weight room.

1. Was he a paid member of the Wapak football staff? Exactly when is/was his contract completed?
2. If so, has he formally informed the administration at Wapak that he is resigning from his coaching position?
3. Has he been officially hired as a member of the SM football staff yet?
4. If not, does he and the SM administration understand that he can not legally be in the weight room, and the liability issues that are possible?
5. To my knowledge no one is allowed to volunteer as a coach of any sport without certification and board approval at any high school in Ohio. Not Jim Tressel, not Jon Gruden, not Jim Brown nor Dean Pees. No one.
6. Are the SM parents aware that this is happening? I for one would be hesitant to entrust the safety of my son to a young man who has not been hired by the school, has extremely limited experience in working with high school athletes, and is not legally able to act in any official capacity in or around the school with minors? Especially if I have not had an opportunity to meet the person at any point.

Just off the top of my head.

[the_beezer]

The Owl, on 01 January 2014 - 11:52 PM, said:

I have several questions that beg answers if indeed Bo Frye or any members of the 2013 Wapak football staff is already in the SM weight room. 1. Was he a paid member of the Wapak football staff? Exactly when is/was his contract completed? 2. If so, has he formally informed the administration at Wapak that he is resigning from his coaching position? 3. Has he been officially hired as a member of the SM football staff yet? 4. If not, does he and the SM administration understand that he can not legally be in the weight room, and the liability issues that are possible? 5. To my knowledge no one is allowed to volunteer as a coach of any sport without certification and board approval at any high school in Ohio. Not Jim Tressel, not Jon Gruden, not Jim Brown nor Dean Pees. No one. 6. Are the SM parents aware that this is happening? I for one would be hesitant to entrust the safety of my son to a young man who has not been hired by the school, has extremely limited experience in working with high school athletes, and is not legally able to act in any official capacity in or around the school with minors? Especially if I have not had an opportunity to meet the person at any point. Just off the top of my head.

I was wondering some of the same things.

[Warren]

I have no dog in this fight! I'm a fan of both Wapak and SM. I have tried to answer these questions to the best of my knowledge.


1. Was he a paid member of the Wapak football staff? Exactly when is/was his contract completed?
-Contracts are complete at the conclusion of the season. Head Coaches are complete when all equipment, forms, and requests are done per the AD.

2. If so, has he formally informed the administration at Wapak that he is resigning from his coaching position?
-Normally school boards will not "officially" approve your coaching contract until the spring for the next season ahead. Most coaches will have a verbal intent conversation with the AD.

3. Has he been officially hired as a member of the SM football staff yet?
-I don't believe anyone has been hired. Must have board approval.

4. If not, does he and the SM administration understand that he can not legally be in the weight room, and the liability issues that are possible?
-Yes he can be. As long as he is not supervising the weight room. If a board approved assistant or strength coach is supervising, then you may have "visitors" stop by and check out the facilities.

5. To my knowledge no one is allowed to volunteer as a coach of any sport without certification and board approval at any high school in Ohio. Not Jim Tressel, not Jon Gruden, not Jim Brown nor Dean Pees. No one.
-Yes most schools demand a board certified coach supervise a practice, off-season activity, etc. Stopping by the weight room and talking to players (if that is what it was) is no different than bringing in a guest speaker. Especially if it's the AD who is bringing them by.

6. Are the SM parents aware that this is happening? I for one would be hesitant to entrust the safety of my son to a young man who has not been hired by the school, has extremely limited experience in working with high school athletes, and is not legally able to act in any official capacity in or around the school with minors? Especially if I have not had an opportunity to meet the person at any point.
- Again I would ask are they supervising? Stopping by? One time? Multiple times? A lot is left unknown.