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[clutch]

pokercat, on 25 December 2013 - 09:53 PM, said:

Clutch-Agree with the fact Jr High and elementary parents not getting involved,,But,I also had a friend who's boy was playing O-Line for jr high team probably 6-7 years back.. when his son lost his starting spot to a voucher kid ,he refused to work volunteer hours ,like he was before..Not saying thats right thing to do,but it would be naive to think it doesn't happen,,

Very poor excuse

[clutch]

whodey, on 25 December 2013 - 10:24 PM, said:

any truth that every varsity basketball player that sees the floor is either a transfer or one of the assistant coaches sons? clutch,osu do you know i'm coming home for a game this weekend

Transfer from when? 7th grade? I remember a few years ago when elida went to state tourney and had probably 4 of 5 starters that transfered after freshmen year....where were you when that happened?

[Colt45]

clutch, on 25 December 2013 - 11:42 PM, said:

Transfer from when? 7th grade? I remember a few years ago when elida went to state tourney and had probably 4 of 5 starters that transfered after freshmen year....where were you when that happened?

I believe only two starters transferred in.

[clutch]

Colt45, on 26 December 2013 - 12:32 AM, said:

I believe only two starters transferred in.

I will look into that. You may be right I just know they had like 5 players who weren't there as freshman. To be honest, I'm not even trying to go there, just trying to make a point.

[Colt45]

clutch, on 26 December 2013 - 01:15 AM, said:

I will look into that. You may be right I just know they had like 5 players who weren't there as freshman. To be honest, I'm not even trying to go there, just trying to make a point.

I understood where you were coming from just had to point it out.

[Osu4me]

6-7 yrs back I don't even think they even gave vouchers to LSH students yet.

[von]

Osu4me, on 26 December 2013 - 08:01 PM, said:

6-7 yrs back I don't even think they even gave vouchers to LSH students yet.

Who cares about 6-7 years back, this is now. Let's get a new topic here, I think it has been hammered enough. Thank You....

[Osu4me]

von, on 27 December 2013 - 12:41 AM, said:

Who cares about 6-7 years back, this is now. Let's get a new topic here, I think it has been hammered enough. Thank You....

I'm not the one who brought it up but couldn't agree with you more on a new topic!!

[dawgbone]

Every player on the basketball team has spent their entire high school career at LCC. You do realize that LCC is only a high school, grades 9-12. Every student that comes in as a Freshman is a "transfer" from somewhere. Yes there are Catholic elementary schools, but at this point, just as many of those students go to public high schools as go to LCC. No one on the basketball team was ever a high school student at Lima Sr. nor any other high school.

No one ever asks any other school to justify where their players are from. Why is it such an issue with LCC? If parents/students decide to go to high school at LCC why is it anyone else's business? It certainly doesn't bother you all that students who spent their entire elementary / Jr. High years in the Catholic elementary schools go to public high schools, now does it? Why is it so awful when it works the other way?

And so entirely sick of this whole voucher thing. You all assume that some students are voucher students when most are not. You might just be surprised which kids are and which are not. It's frankly no one's business. Not one voucher comes from Lima Sr....they do not qualify. The Jr. Highs, yes. The high school, no.

Edited by dawgbone, 29 December 2013 - 04:34 PM.

[Irish Viking 87]

dawgbone, on 29 December 2013 - 04:32 PM, said:

Every player on the basketball team has spent their entire high school career at LCC. You do realize that LCC is only a high school, grades 9-12. Every student that comes in as a Freshman is a "transfer" from somewhere. Yes there are Catholic elementary schools, but at this point, just as many of those students go to public high schools as go to LCC. No one on the basketball team was ever a high school student at Lima Sr. nor any other high school.

No one ever asks any other school to justify where their players are from. Why is it such an issue with LCC? If parents/students decide to go to high school at LCC why is it anyone else's business? It certainly doesn't bother you all that students who spent their entire elementary / Jr. High years in the Catholic elementary schools go to public high schools, now does it? Why is it so awful when it works the other way?

And so entirely sick of this whole voucher thing. You all assume that some students are voucher students when most are not. You might just be surprised which kids are and which are not. It's frankly no one's business. Not one voucher comes from Lima Sr....they do not qualify. The Jr. Highs, yes. The high school, no.

With the transfer rules they would have to start their careers at LCC. That's a no-brainer. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the kids that spend their elementary/Jr. High years in the Catholic school system and go to Lima Sr. in high school are kids from families that can no longer afford the tuition and don't qualify for a voucher.(they also probably aren't star atheletes)

You can be sick of the voucher talk all you want but until it goes away it will be a topic of conversation. Why don't you suprise and enlighten us all and tell us who is and isn't at LCC on a voucher. I realize it really is no ones business but it would end the argument once and for all.

[dawgbone]

Irish Viking 87, on 29 December 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

With the transfer rules they would have to start their careers at LCC. That's a no-brainer. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the kids that spend their elementary/Jr. High years in the Catholic school system and go to Lima Sr. in high school are kids from families that can no longer afford the tuition and don't qualify for a voucher.(they also probably aren't star atheletes)

You can be sick of the voucher talk all you want but until it goes away it will be a topic of conversation. Why don't you suprise and enlighten us all and tell us who is and isn't at LCC on a voucher. I realize it really is no ones business but it would end the argument once and for all.

Simply because it's no one's business. And LCC doesn't award vouchers, the state does. If a school isn't failing, they don't even qualify. LCC accepts voucher students just like public schools accept open enrollment students. Solution to the problem, improve schools so they don't qualify for vouchers then there would be no vouchers to argue about. Until then, quit making assumptions about kids when you have no idea what you're talking about. It's just wrong.

[Irish Viking 87]

dawgbone, on 30 December 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

Simply because it's no one's business. And LCC doesn't award vouchers, the state does. If a school isn't failing, they don't even qualify. LCC accepts voucher students just like public schools accept open enrollment students. Solution to the problem, improve schools so they don't qualify for vouchers then there would be no vouchers to argue about. Until then, quit making assumptions about kids when you have no idea what you're talking about. It's just wrong.

First of all, comparing voucher students and open enrollment students is rediculous. Open enrollment students can only go to an adjoining district. Private schools don't have a district. They can pick and choose who they want from a far greater area.Public schools don't charge kids to attend therfore they don't need vouchers.

How about using vouchers for what they were intended for. Helping disadvantaged kids to better themselves. Not just the atheletes. You are right, LCC doesn't award the vouchers. They do have a say on who receives them though. Why doesn't someone tell us, out of all the voucher students at LCC, how many are atheletes. If the numbers are what you claim them to be, that will end the argument once and for all.

[Mr Bearcat]

The point about vouchers is Public money should Not be spent on a Private education. Voucher students could be made public, because it public money being spent on them. I agree Public Schools need fixed, but handing out vouchers avoids fixing it.

[effingA]

Open enrollment kids can go to ANY school in the state that accepts open enrollment... does not have to be adjacent.

Edited by effingA, 30 December 2013 - 11:20 PM.

[Hound Dog]

effingA, on 30 December 2013 - 11:20 PM, said:

Open enrollment kids can go to ANY school in the state that accepts open enrollment... does not have to be adjacent.

Not all schools allow state wide open
enrollment. Columbus Grove only does adjacent.

Edited by Hound Dog, 31 December 2013 - 01:39 AM.

[Bigdogg79]

Also some open enrollment schools put limits on the amount of students they will permit to open enroll. Marion Local is one that dose this due to space limitations.

Edited by Bigdogg79, 31 December 2013 - 10:02 AM.

[lepiota]

dawgbone, on 30 December 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

Simply because it's no one's business. And LCC doesn't award vouchers, the state does. If a school isn't failing, they don't even qualify. LCC accepts voucher students just like public schools accept open enrollment students. Solution to the problem, improve schools so they don't qualify for vouchers then there would be no vouchers to argue about. Until then, quit making assumptions about kids when you have no idea what you're talking about. It's just wrong.

Whatever "faiing" schools these kids come from, they must only have to improve themselves for the boys. Why else would LCCs girls team's roster be comprised of slow, short, white girls?

[dawgbone]

lepiota, on 31 December 2013 - 10:50 AM, said:

Whatever "faiing" schools these kids come from, they must only have to improve themselves for the boys. Why else would LCCs girls team's roster be comprised of slow, short, white girls?

Slow, short, white girls....are you sure none of them are voucher students? How pathetic are all of you to assume that only black students receive vouchers? You don't know anything. You assume things and suddenly deem them to be true, but you know nothing. And it's really sad. Also, not all the voucher students are athletes.

[lepiota]

The reason for my observation and comparisons of the racial makeup of Girls and Boys should seem obvious: When comparing two groups within the same context (Basketball in this case), the members of each group should be similar from a racial makeup. That is if we use your premise that voucher student are, in large part, only attending LCC because of academic shortcomings at their former schools. After all, do not the Black players attending LCC have sisters who also attend these disadvantaged schools they did?

Perhaps their sisters are not inclined to play sports......all of them. Or perhaps, for some other reason, only the boys attend.

Edited by lepiota, 31 December 2013 - 03:12 PM.

[effingA]

Schools that are "open" take who they want but usually the vast majority of the "open" schools take as many as they can because it's money in their coffers....