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Posted 16 March 2014 - 07:56 PM

View Postslice slice baby, on 16 March 2014 - 07:45 PM, said:


JUst because others have opinions that differ from yours, they should be ignored? Nice............ smh

I have no horse in the race but when ppl downgrade a guy in order to make another look better I will try to call them on it. Davis is a good guy and getting bashed for being successful, if you want talked about like Davis is go out and earn it and you won't need to self promote.


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 08:02 PM

I guess I just don't see anything so horrible that's been said against Coach Davis that would suggest that others' opinions need to be ignored. They have their thoughts on who would be the best candidates, just as you have.
Myself, I find the debate with all the info (opinions AND stats) that's been provided very interesting~from all sides.
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Posted 16 March 2014 - 08:10 PM

When did I bash either Allen or Davis. They R both great people and good coaches. If you had seen any of Lima Sr. games this year you would had seen many times where the kids just quit.

My feeling is if your going to hire Davis you might as well keep Allen, they both been to the regionals twice and it would be a matter of time that they would stop listening to Davis. Quincey already has connections to these kids, has for years. Give him a chance.



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Posted 16 March 2014 - 08:15 PM

mysteryman2014 has been around since at least mid January. mysteryman and juan both have backed Quincey blindly and to a fault. At least SpartanDome backs his arguements with documented facts. I'd say mysteryman and juan do have a personal connection to Quincey. SpartanDome, I would say no. I may be wrong, but it just doesn't feel the same to me.

Pulling Davis' records for the past 15 years was refuting the post the Davis has been a great coach where ever he has been. Someone said he averaged around 15 wins a year at Jefferson, he pulled records to prove that wrong. Someone said he had good teams at Bath before the two regional runs, he pulled records and showed that Bath averaged 7 wins a year. Someone questioned Lima Senior not winning a state title with a McDonalds All-American. He researched what all 21 McDonalds All-Americans from Ohio have done in the tournament. He may be new and you may not agree with him, but at least he takes the time to research his arguements.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 08:21 PM

BTW been on the corner for years just had issues with password had to get new username. bobhorner has left the building.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 10:35 PM

View PostJBball, on 16 March 2014 - 06:57 PM, said:

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What was Jefferson's record prior to Davis' first season there? Believe it was consistently 0-2 wins per year. And as for them not getting out of sectionals in those few years, I believe they lost to a very good St. Henry team and Wayne Trace (who lost to Akron SVSM by one two games later) in the sectional finals during two of their best years. I'm not arguing he is the best coach in the world, but you keep acting like these programs were relevant prior to his arrival. Jefferson hasn't been very good since. I just don't see many possibilities out there that are better.

I think Quincy or Davis would be fine hires. I have no dog in this Lima Senior fight. But Jefferson won 14 games THIS season, and has been out of sectionals multiple times since Davis left. Not that I judge a coach by records, sectionals, etc...as there are too many factors out their control to fairly break it down to a common denominator. I agree with whoever said that you shouldn't have to diminish or tear down others to pimp your man. Again, DD would be a great hire...along with others.
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Posted 17 March 2014 - 12:00 AM

Save your time with these guys..

SpartanDome
Juan
Mysteryman2014

All 3 have created account in past week or 2 once the LSH bball season ended

All 3 have talked bad about Allen and/or Davis

All 3 have praised Quincey Simpson as a great hs bball coach and best option even talked about his ability to coach JV basketball years ago

Mysteryman puts a multi paragraph post promoting top tier sports showcase on this site and I believe that is Simpson's camp.

All the hating on Davis makes sense. He's the biggest threat to get the position and most likely going to get it, so pull up his 15 years coaching record to try to diminish what Bath has accomplished the past few seasons.


It's obvious there is personal commection with Simpson..


dw629 WHY WOULD YOU WRITE THIS???????

Let's go through your list of accusations:
1) All 3 have created accounts in the past week or 2 once the LSH bball season ended

SpartanDome - Feb 17, 2014 WRONG a month ago
Juan yesterday morning (but he claims he is the former Bob Horner) Correct based on the information available to you
Mysteryman2014 - Dec 3, 2013 WRONG over 3 months ago

2) All 3 have talked bad about Allen and/or Davis
Not really sure HOW I talked bad about Davis BUT YOU keep saying I AM BASHING HIM. I have posted HIS SEASON records NOT anything else.I am tired of disproving this accusation

3) All 3 have praised Quincey as a great hs bball coach and best option even talked about his ability to coach JV basketball years ago.
PLEASE CUT AND PASTE WHERE I SAID THE ABOVE!!!!!

4) All the hating on Davis makes sense. He's the biggest threat to get the position and most likely going to get it, so pull up his 15 years coaching record to try to diminish what Bath has accomplished the past few seasons.
I pulled up his records because other posters made statements about what the records were........ I am not doing any HATING ON DAVIS. I have stated this many many many times. PLEASE REREAD THE POSTS. It is funny how numerous other posters can read my posts and take them for what they are simply researched facts to disprove statements made. NO ONE CLAIMS I AM HATING ON DAVIS.............EXCEPT YOU

5) It's obvious there is personal connection with Simpson..
AGAIN PLEASE I BEG YOU CUT AND PASTE WHAT I HAVE POSTED THAT SHOWS THIS.

With the way you have reacted with this could you have some personal connection to Davis?

Edited by SpartanDome, 17 March 2014 - 12:03 AM.


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Posted 17 March 2014 - 12:45 AM

View PostJBball, on 16 March 2014 - 06:57 PM, said:

@SpartanDome
What was Jefferson's record prior to Davis' first season there? Believe it was consistently 0-2 wins per year. And as for them not getting out of sectionals in those few years, I believe they lost to a very good St. Henry team and Wayne Trace (who lost to Akron SVSM by one two games later) in the sectional finals during two of their best years. I'm not arguing he is the best coach in the world, but you keep acting like these programs were relevant prior to his arrival. Jefferson hasn't been very good since. I just don't see many possibilities out there that are better.
JBball I only have the records from 1999-2004 for Delphos Jefferson. I stated in the previous post which is below I am not sure when Davis came to Delphos Jefferson. I also added the tournament teams Delphos lost to and you referenced a very good St Henry and Wayne Trace team etc etc. Please clarify what you meant.
Again JBball I did a little checking and I looked up what records I could find and below are the season records for Delphos Jefferson from 1999-2004
03-04 10-10 lost to Ottoville 63-47
02-03 14-5 lost to St Henry 49-37 and they lost to Archbold (StVStM was Division 2)
01-02 13-4 lost to Wayne Trace 60-48 and they lost to Clear Fork (StVStM was Division 2)
00-01 9-9 lost to Parkway 61-50 (Wayne Trace lost to StVStM 56-50 in the regional semi)
99-00 7-11 lost to Bluffton 70-44
I am not sure when Doug Davis started st Delphos Jefferson but he surely did NOT HAVE consistently 14-16 wins like you claimed

Edited by SpartanDome, 17 March 2014 - 12:48 AM.


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Posted 17 March 2014 - 05:51 AM

View Postbball_fanatic, on 15 March 2014 - 08:34 PM, said:

I just saw on Twitter one of the LSH players wrote... "Coach Allen just got fired- Thank God".
Interesting a player would put that he was thankful for his coach getting fired on social media. Could be the issue right there.....
When your coach doesnt care about his players on or off the court then what do you expect???
All those players lost respect for him as a coach a long time ago!!!

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 06:01 AM

View Postdw629, on 16 March 2014 - 04:08 PM, said:

If Whitney is interested I would say interview him too. I am not saying Davis is the only answer to be teacher/coach at LSH I'm just curious who will have a better resume? I think it would silly not to interview Davis with his recent success running a D2 program. I'm sure they will take the best 3-5 applicants and interview them and I am sure Davis (and Whitney if applies) are amount those 3-5.
Bath will be mediocre next year.
They will be a 500 team with not a good tourney run.
Defiance,OG,Celina will be the top 3 in WBL.

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 06:01 AM

View PostIrish Viking 87, on 16 March 2014 - 05:04 PM, said:

Did I miss something? Is Shawn out at Senior? The only thing I've seen is one post that says a player says he got fired at 6 o'clock on a Sat night. Is he gone or are we all just speculating?
GONE!!!

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 06:08 AM

View Postslice slice baby, on 16 March 2014 - 07:45 PM, said:

JUst because others have opinions that differ from yours, they should be ignored? Nice............ smh
I have had my account for more then week or two.
ANd i never said anything about Davis except he is loosing talent after this year. Lets see how he does next year assuming he stays at Bath.
As far as Allen goes he is a hell of a guy. Horrible coach. Doesnt care about kids on or off the court.Isnt involved in anyway with the younger kids and upcoming players who could possibly be going to Lima Senior. Makes bad decisions on the court.
And if you were at the LCC vs Lima Senior game why was his son guarding a 4or5 in Williams instead of a guard???
Maybe because Simpson or Kimbrough would have made him look silly?????

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 06:28 AM

View Postmysteryman2014, on 17 March 2014 - 06:01 AM, said:

Bath will be mediocre next year.
They will be a 500 team with not a good tourney run.
Defiance,OG,Celina will be the top 3 in WBL.
True for sure

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 08:23 AM

It's a no brainer they NEED to hire Quincey Simpson. He not only works with the youth in this community but he has personal relationships with kids in the LSH program starting in elementary. Kids will run through a wall for him. He's won at every level, freshman, JV, college & pros. Not to mention he has an AAU National Championship. Total different kids & men and won at all levels. Why is there another debate needed. LSH feels Quincey turned his back on them when they feel "their" kids left to other schools.They feel that's Quincey's to blame. How sad. If they want those kids back, if they wanna win for a long time then it's a no brainer he should be the coach. Paul Whitney has been gone over for YEARS. He doesn't know these kids.If he couldn't control "Mr. Basketball" then he has no clue on these kids.The only person I see these kids look up to is Quincey. I've actually seen him coach them before and it's clear. Davis did decent at Bath but LSH is a different breed of kids. Look at his for we assistant whose coaching JV at LSH. He has no clue how to interact with those kids. It'll be worse for Davis bc he's not vocal at all. We all know he's LSH's #1 guy. Jamar butler is #2. And that's 2 HORRIBLE DECISIONS. They need to really wake up and go after the one who wins and is involved with ALL the kids.Quincy Simpson should be the next Coach at LSH.


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Posted 17 March 2014 - 08:30 AM

View Postmysteryman2014, on 17 March 2014 - 06:01 AM, said:

GONE!!!

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 08:50 AM

Its a no brainer they NEED to hire Quincey Simpson. He not only works with the youth in this community but he has personal relationships with kids in the LSH program starting in elementary. Kids will run through a wall for him. He's won at every level, freshman, JV, college & pros. Not to mention he has an AAU National Championship. Total different kids & men and won at all levels. Why is there another debate needed. LSH feels Quincey turned his back on them when they feel "their" kids left to other schools.They feel that's Quincey's to blame. How sad. If they want those kids back, if they wanna win for a long time then it's a no brainer he should be the coach. Paul Whitney has been gone over for YEARS. He doesn't know these kids.If he couldn't control "Mr. Basketball" then he has no clue on these kids.The only person I see these kids look up to is Quincey. I've actually seen him coach them before and it's clear. Davis did decent at Bath but LSH is a different breed of kids. Look at his for we assistant whose coaching JV at LSH. He has no clue how to interact with those kids. It'll be worse for Davis bc he's not vocal at all. We all know he's LSH's #1 guy. Jamar butler is #2. And that's 2 HORRIBLE DECISIONS. They need to really wake up and go after the one who wins and is involved with ALL the kids.Quincy Simpson should be the next Coach at LSH.

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 08:54 AM

View Postmysteryman2014, on 17 March 2014 - 08:50 AM, said:

Its a no brainer they NEED to hire Quincey Simpson. He not only works with the youth in this community but he has personal relationships with kids in the LSH program starting in elementary. Kids will run through a wall for him. He's won at every level, freshman, JV, college & pros. Not to mention he has an AAU National Championship. Total different kids & men and won at all levels. Why is there another debate needed. LSH feels Quincey turned his back on them when they feel "their" kids left to other schools.They feel that's Quincey's to blame. How sad. If they want those kids back, if they wanna win for a long time then it's a no brainer he should be the coach. Paul Whitney has been gone over for YEARS. He doesn't know these kids.If he couldn't control "Mr. Basketball" then he has no clue on these kids.The only person I see these kids look up to is Quincey. I've actually seen him coach them before and it's clear. Davis did decent at Bath but LSH is a different breed of kids. Look at his for we assistant whose coaching JV at LSH. He has no clue how to interact with those kids. It'll be worse for Davis bc he's not vocal at all. We all know he's LSH's #1 guy. Jamar butler is #2. And that's 2 HORRIBLE DECISIONS. They need to really wake up and go after the one who wins and is involved with ALL the kids.Quincy Simpson should be the next Coach at LSH.

Interesting.


View Postmysteryman2014, on 17 March 2014 - 08:50 AM, said:

Its a no brainer they NEED to hire Quincey Simpson. He not only works with the youth in this community but he has personal relationships with kids in the LSH program starting in elementary. Kids will run through a wall for him. He's won at every level, freshman, JV, college & pros. Not to mention he has an AAU National Championship. Total different kids & men and won at all levels. Why is there another debate needed. LSH feels Quincey turned his back on them when they feel "their" kids left to other schools.They feel that's Quincey's to blame. How sad. If they want those kids back, if they wanna win for a long time then it's a no brainer he should be the coach. Paul Whitney has been gone over for YEARS. He doesn't know these kids.If he couldn't control "Mr. Basketball" then he has no clue on these kids.The only person I see these kids look up to is Quincey. I've actually seen him coach them before and it's clear. Davis did decent at Bath but LSH is a different breed of kids. Look at his for we assistant whose coaching JV at LSH. He has no clue how to interact with those kids. It'll be worse for Davis bc he's not vocal at all. We all know he's LSH's #1 guy. Jamar butler is #2. And that's 2 HORRIBLE DECISIONS. They need to really wake up and go after the one who wins and is involved with ALL the kids.Quincy Simpson should be the next Coach at LSH.

Oh, you don't say.

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 09:02 AM

Think of some other names.....I know for a fact it will not be Quincy Simpson.....
Doug Davis is a highly doubtful as well.

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 09:14 AM

View PostFlightCrew, on 17 March 2014 - 09:02 AM, said:

Think of some other names.....I know for a fact it will not be Quincy Simpson.....
Doug Davis is a highly doubtful as well.

Phil Jackson!!!!!!1!!!!!!

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 09:15 AM

View PostFlightCrew, on 17 March 2014 - 09:02 AM, said:

Think of some other names.....I know for a fact it will not be Quincy Simpson.....
Doug Davis is a highly doubtful as well.

WHy would it NOT be QUincy Simpson???
My sources tell me he would take the job.
Wont LSH hire him?







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