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[ohioguy102474]

Recently The Lima News put out a list of their Top 25 Girls basketball players over the last 25 years. These are all former HS (and college for that matter) players.

Comments? Anywhere they got it wrong? Omissions?

1 CAITY MATTER (Bluffton, 1997-2000)

2 JENNIFER PHILLIPS (Elida, 1994-1997)

3 LYNN BIHN (Fort Recovery, 1988-1991)

4 NIKKI MIARS (St. Marys, 1992-1995)

5  TAMMY WILLIAMS (Lima Senior, 1986-1989)

6  LAUREN SHENK (Minster, 1995-1998)

7 GWEN HURLEY (Upper Scioto Valley, 1991-1994)

8  LINDSEY KENTNER (Wapakoneta, 2004-2007)

9 CHRISSY BILLITER (Elida, 1992-1995)

10 CAREY POOR (Celina, 1989-1992)

11. SHERRY KAHLE (Bath, 1992-1995)

12 FRANCINE MILLER (Kalida, 1995-1998)

13 KARLA WENZLICK (Ottoville, 1993-1996)

14  ALLIE CLIFTON (Van Wert, 2003-2006)

15 JENNY RAUH (Coldwater, 1990-1993)

16  MADINAH SLAISE (Lima Senior, 1992-1995)

17 MELANIE HALKER (Ottawa-Glandorf, 1992-1995)

18 MARIA MOELLER (Marion Local, 2003-2006)

19 COBIE CARLISLE (Lima Senior, 1999-2002)

20 SANDY BUDDELMEYER (Ottawa-Glandorf, 1986-1989)

21 SARA PUTHOFF (Marion Local, 1991-1994)

22. LAUREN SLUSSER (Columbus Grove, 1999-2002)

23 CARIN HORNE (Lima Senior, 2003-2006)

24.TERESA KAHLE (Bath, 1996-1999)

25 LINDA HORNER (Perry, 1988-1991)

[winit4me]

Wondering how many of these gals went on to play Division I College basketball??

[82bucks82]

Forgetting the schulze girl from anna. Not sure of years but I think 02-04. Played/started at ohio state
The ratterman girl from Versailles. I think 07 -10. Played at ud.

[Rocketman]

Winny,
There are always perceived slights in a vote such as this....Usher knows about as much about girls basketball as the janitor at the school. He didn't make up this list on his own. He called some coaches and they gave him names. I don't think going D1 has much weight....
Going D1 and excelling there are entirely different.....How this list doesn't include ANYONE from DSJ just shows how clueless it is....and to not include Carlee Roethlisberger from Findlay is laughable.....he might say that Findlay isn't included in the area, but it's a hell of a lot closer than a lot of those schools to the south

[lepiota]

Agree on the Roethlisberger girl. What about the Shlagel (sp?) that played for Wapak a few years back? And what about Heisten's kid at Shawnee. Didn't She go to Toledo?

[waterloowonder]

Annette Trenkamp - Kalida - 2 state titles - Played at U of Findlay
Vanessa Rothman - Holgate - 2 state runner-ups - over 1,900 career points

[Brooklyn]

How about the girls from Fairview?

[lepiota]

To do this right and to include at least a half an hour in all directions in a 25 year span, they would have had to do an unbelievable amount of research. They should have just contained it to Lima and it's local schools.

[winit4me]

I thought it was a very good article and I commended Tom for putting it all together and he told me how it was done and I am very proud of all who made the list and for his efforts!!!! I was just curious what players had played in Division I - WOW - didn''t know I would get such a response!!

[paperboy]

Rocketman, on 20 February 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

Usher knows about as much about girls basketball as the janitor at the school.

If the janitor is also the girls basketball coach I might agree. Otherwise, you're all wet as per usual.

Rocketman, on 20 February 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

How this list doesn't include ANYONE from DSJ just shows how clueless it is....

Who from DSJ would you include and who would you toss off the list? I'm not saying there isn't someone worthy but the great DSJ teams I've seen typically haven't contained any superstars.

Rocketman, on 20 February 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

and to not include Carlee Roethlisberger from Findlay is laughable.....he might say that Findlay isn't included in the area, but it's a hell of a lot closer than a lot of those schools to the south

Yeah, and Findlay has its own paper, which is why Lima doesn't cover Findlay. Man, are you really this dense?

[flounder]

paperboy.......

I take it that your username ties you in with the Lima News...just putting 2 and 2 together....remember Columbo. Naturally you are going to defend Mr Usher. I find it rather amusing that 4 Lima Senior girls and one from Perry were listed...2 schools with very little girls basketball tradition and tournament history......I am sure we could argue some of these selections...Rocketman is correct in his referral concerning DSJ players....Traci Gorman and Rachel Pohlman were better than some of those Usher listed....Gorman maybe not the past 25, but very close....Ottoville also has had some great one's, but Karla Wenzlick definitely was one of their best....and just because Findlay has its own newspaper...well, so does Delphos, but we still are covered by the Lima News......and last time I checked....Findlay is closer to Lima than Fort Recovery and Maria Stein, so your point in that regard is mute......

paperboy you might want to be more careful the next time before using words like "dense", "your all wet"!!!!!!

[Bobby]

Thank you to Mr. Usher for giving girls basketball some attention. And I apologize for those here who feel the need to rip anyone who has an opinion that doesn't perfectly match their own. Geesh! How about some of you make up your own list so we can tell you how ignorant you are.

As for DSJ players, Traci Gorman is outside the time frame. Rachel Pohlman maybe makes the list but I'm certainly not going to be upset if she's not included. I can't think of any other DSJ player since 1989 who should make the list.

[flounder]

First of all Bobby...1989 is only 24 years, and I think Rachel Pohlman was good enough to make the list, although I am not losing any sleep over it...... I think it was a great list comprised by Mr Usher....my complaint was issued at 'paperboy'.....now, if 'paperboy' and Tom Usher are the same person...well .......it's a possibility I never really considered....and by the way...why should you feel the need to apologize....... it's America...we still do have freedom of speech, but that may be in jeopardy also!!!!!

[redbird]

Trisha McDaniel from Leipsic. 1000 points and 1000 rebounds in high school. Played at Findlay and was all-American.

[paperboy]

flounder, on 20 February 2013 - 11:56 AM, said:

paperboy.......

I take it that your username ties you in with the Lima News...just putting 2 and 2 together....remember Columbo. Naturally you are going to defend Mr Usher. I find it rather amusing that 4 Lima Senior girls and one from Perry were listed...2 schools with very little girls basketball tradition and tournament history......I am sure we could argue some of these selections...Rocketman is correct in his referral concerning DSJ players....Traci Gorman and Rachel Pohlman were better than some of those Usher listed....Gorman maybe not the past 25, but very close....Ottoville also has had some great one's, but Karla Wenzlick definitely was one of their best....and just because Findlay has its own newspaper...well, so does Delphos, but we still are covered by the Lima News......and last time I checked....Findlay is closer to Lima than Fort Recovery and Maria Stein, so your point in that regard is mute......

paperboy you might want to be more careful the next time before using words like "dense", "your all wet"!!!!!!

Not sure where to start here, but...

1) No affiliation with the Lima News or Mr. Usher. Back when I registered for this site I was a stringer for a small paper but that's all I have in common with journalism.
2) I have no idea whether the girls from Lima that are on the list are qualified or not - my opinions were directed specifically at Elton's silly criticisms.
3) Traci Gorman graduated in 1987 = longer than 25 years ago = shouldn't be in discussion. Rachel Pohlman? Maybe, but both you and Bobby say it's no big deal so what's the problem?
4) The Lima News doesn't cover Findlay high school sports too much (please correct me if I'm wrong). It does, however, cover the MAC and considers its teams 'local' (except for Versailles, I guess). Thus, it only makes sense that some former MAC players would be on the list but not Findlay Trojans. Distance from Lima makes no difference - it's about who gets covered on a regular basis.
5) 'Mute' would mean my point can't speak, which I guess technically you're right about, but I think you meant 'moot'.
6) See point number (5) regarding you telling me who I should call dense.
7) As for being all wet, you may want to remember your raincoat, Columbo

[XMAS]

IOOO point players from the MAC

Girls 3 point era
1 Jenny Rauh Coldwater 1,814 1992 ?
2 Lauren Shenk Minster 1,671 1998
3 Kelli Stahl Versailles 1,667 199?
4 Lynn Bihn Fort Recovery 1,592 1991
5 Sara Putthoff Marion 1,591 1994
6 Beth Hunziker Parkway 1,545 1991 **
7 Maria Moeller Marion 1,520 2006
8 Sara Heitkamp Fort Recovery 1,494 2002
9 Michelle Pothast Versailles 1,405 199?
10 Jacki Raterman Versailles 1,375 199?
11 Rachel Pohlman St. Johns 1,347 2002 sat out junior year with back injury
12 Amanda Elwer St Johns 1323 2000
13 Sarah Poling St. Henry 1,297 2003
14 Mandy Hastings Fort Recovery 1,225 1994
15 Chris Altemburger DSJ 1222 95-98
16 Shannon Smith DSJ 1219 92-95
17 Jenn Altenburger DSJ 1122 90-93
18 Amy Siefring Coldwater 1,214 1992?
19 Lori Albers Marion 1,180 1989
20 Angie Shardo Versailles 1,067 199?
21 Jill Buschur New Bremen 1,048 2000
22 Ashley Arnett New Knoxville 1,040 2002
23 Jenny Carr Parkway 1,022 1996

Rachel Pohlman would have been in the top 5 if she played her junior year

Edited by XMAS, 20 February 2013 - 02:18 PM.

[PostPlayer]

Kayla Brown from Riverdale perhaps? Her team went to Cbus and got 2nd, plays at UF, 1000 pt scorer at UF...very good player.

[erniefurgler]

Any idea if they plan on doing a boys version of this? I like reading these type of articles...nice trip down memory lane

[flounder]

paperboy......

'mute' is the word I meant to use...not 'moot'....and in my reference yes, I was technically right......I think Roethlisberger(sp) should be included......it's funny how the Lima News more or less picks the Limaland teams they want....and to take some MAC teams but not others makes no sense.......

XMAS.......

Great list!!!!

[charliesheen]

Flounder.....a point can be "moot"....a point cannot be "mute" that doesn't even make sense. Paperboy was trying to help you improve your use of the english language and you shot him down....I'm guessing he won't try to help you again......lol


moot
¹ [moot] Show IPA
adjective
1.
open to discussion or debate; debatable; doubtful: a moot point.
2.
of little or no practical value or meaning; purely academic.


Now that that's taken care of.....Shelly Bellman of OG needs to be on this list somewhere. Big East Freshmen of the year. If it wasn't for all the issues with her knee, she'd probably be in consideration for the Top 5.