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[JohnMcClane]

NW Ohio Football Fan, on 04 February 2013 - 09:55 PM, said:

Coached this past season at Grove but will not coach next year at Grove. Is teaching currently in your building hope this provides some clarity for you.

If it the former D coordinator. That's addition by subtraction.

[Badlands]

NW Ohio Football Fan, on 04 February 2013 - 09:55 PM, said:

Coached this past season at Grove but will not coach next year at Grove. Is teaching currently in your building hope this provides some clarity for you.

I assume your guessing Coach Wright

[LimaJock]

Cooper is getting out before Fell starts using comments like best conference in Ohio, big stage, wide open offense, and free education in conversations. Could be retirement system also.

LJ

[flounder]

LimaJock, on 09 February 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

Cooper is getting out before Fell starts using comments like best conference in Ohio, big stage, wide open offense, and free education in conversations. Could be retirement system also.

LJ

LJ.....

Where have you been friend!!!!!

[NW Ohio Football Fan]

LimaJock, on 09 February 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

Cooper is getting out before Fell starts using comments like best conference in Ohio, big stage, wide open offense, and free education in conversations. Could be retirement system also.

LJ

Are you serious? Any player that would leave a good program for one that is 1-19 the last 2 seasons with 9 losses of 40 points or more should have their head examined. Secondly those type of statements sound alot like recruiting! Are you suggesting that Lima Sr. should knowingly violate OHSAA policy on recruiting. I can not imagine that any area coach would rush to retirement based on such unlikely worries. Even you Lima Jock are smart enough to figure out that some coaches are considering retirement because of all the upcoming changes to STRS. But hold onto your dreams of attracting all these local players to Sparty-Land, sometimes even a fantasy comes true.

[NW Ohio Guy]

Rocketman, on 28 January 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

You sir, are delusional!

This needed said twice!

[dw629]

NW Ohio Football Fan, on 11 February 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:

Are you serious? Any player that would leave a good program for one that is 1-19 the last 2 seasons with 9 losses of 40 points or more should have their head examined. Secondly those type of statements sound alot like recruiting! Are you suggesting that Lima Sr. should knowingly violate OHSAA policy on recruiting. I can not imagine that any area coach would rush to retirement based on such unlikely worries. Even you Lima Jock are smart enough to figure out that some coaches are considering retirement because of all the upcoming changes to STRS. But hold onto your dreams of attracting all these local players to Sparty-Land, sometimes even a fantasy comes true.

I know because it makes so much sense for big bad Darius West to cover these stud farm boy 5.1 40 receivers at Allen East and Paulding instead of showing these D1 recruits that he can play in the best conference in ohio that has DOZENS plural of scholarship players.


Some of the top recent alums of these schools. Even though there are dozens of big athletes from these schools I chose one from each

Whitmer- Kevin Koger- Michigan TE
Toledo Central Catholic- dane sanzenbacher-former osu WR current chicago bear
Toledo St. Johns- Rob Chudzinski- current Browns head coach
Findlay-Ben Roethlisberger
Clay -Kevin Kovacs-current starting Safety Michigan
Fremont Ross-Charles Woodson

Or

NWC type talent

if I'm a big recruit in Lima I know what I would chose and I would get all the other athletes back to my home school and make Lima relevant again. It's no fun watching LCC lose to D5 LB every year in first or second round, compete at the big boy level.

[clutch]

dw629, on 11 February 2013 - 08:00 PM, said:

I know because it makes so much sense for big bad Darius West to cover these stud farm boy 5.1 40 receivers at Allen East and Paulding instead of showing these D1 recruits that he can play in the best conference in ohio that has DOZENS plural of scholarship players.


Some of the top recent alums of these schools. Even though there are dozens of big athletes from these schools I chose one from each

Whitmer- Kevin Koger- Michigan TE
Toledo Central Catholic- dane sanzenbacher-former osu WR current chicago bear
Toledo St. Johns- Rob Chudzinski- current Browns head coach
Findlay-Ben Roethlisberger
Clay -Kevin Kovacs-current starting Safety Michigan
Fremont Ross-Charles Woodson

Or

NWC type talent

if I'm a big recruit in Lima I know what I would chose and I would get all the other athletes back to my home school and make Lima relevant again. It's no fun watching LCC lose to D5 LB every year in first or second round, compete at the big boy level.

You show off your talent at camps against the best in the country....and he's done that.

"Big, bad Darius West"? Is that jealousy, lcc hatred or both?

[dw629]

clutch, on 11 February 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

You show off your talent at camps against the best in the country....and he's done that.

"Big, bad Darius West"? Is that jealousy, lcc hatred or both?

not jealousy the kid is a stud but why would a kid of that caliber want to go against the likes of those schools when he could go against some of the best the state has to offer. Examples like these is why we as a country are in the state we are today instead of working hard and playing for the school you grew up at and playing some of the best competition in Ohio you leave and play against some bad small school teams so you can win some regular season games then lose early in the playoffs. Then people come on here and blows my mind saying you need your head examined why wouldn't you want to play 70-0 games all regular season instead of being challenged.

Edited by dw629, 11 February 2013 - 10:14 PM.

[whatdoiknow]

With all due respect don't you think the reason student/athletes are leaving Lima City Schools has more to do with the level of education than athletics? The inability of the school system to provide an adequate education has forced these families to move into neighborhood schools via open enrollment or on vouchers. Personally, I wish no ill will toward Lima Senior and wish them the best. I think they made a very good decision in their current football hire and I do think he will be able to convince some to return to Lima City Schools. While Lima Senior's current conference has a few state powers it is far from one of the best football leagues in the state of Ohio. Nobody in the league really competed with Whitmer and Toledo Central Catholic and Lima Senior competed with nobody in the conference. Ross, St Francis and St John's were all bad teams this past year. Findlay's defense was awful and a bad non conference schedule made them look better than they were.

Edited by whatdoiknow, 11 February 2013 - 10:35 PM.

[Rd2Glory]

dw629, on 11 February 2013 - 10:09 PM, said:

not jealousy the kid is a stud but why would a kid of that caliber want to go against the likes of those schools when he could go against some of the best the state has to offer. Examples like these is why we as a country are in the state we are today instead of working hard and playing for the school you grew up at and playing some of the best competition in Ohio you leave and play against some bad small school teams so you can win some regular season games then lose early in the playoffs. Then people come on here and blows my mind saying you need your head examined why wouldn't you want to play 70-0 games all regular season instead of being challenged.

So, just to be clear, you think the decision on which school an athlete goes to should be based mainly/solely on sports?

Maybe the "country is in the state it is in today" because of people putting things like sports ahead of an education?

Edited by Rd2Glory, 11 February 2013 - 10:37 PM.

[clutch]

dw629, on 11 February 2013 - 10:09 PM, said:

not jealousy the kid is a stud but why would a kid of that caliber want to go against the likes of those schools when he could go against some of the best the state has to offer. Examples like these is why we as a country are in the state we are today instead of working hard and playing for the school you grew up at and playing some of the best competition in Ohio you leave and play against some bad small school teams so you can win some regular season games then lose early in the playoffs. Then people come on here and blows my mind saying you need your head examined why wouldn't you want to play 70-0 games all regular season instead of being challenged.

Lol wow. Silly thought.....but maybe when his parents decided to send him to the catholic schools in junior high, it was because of the advantages off of the field?

[NW Ohio Guy]

dw629, on 11 February 2013 - 10:09 PM, said:

not jealousy the kid is a stud but why would a kid of that caliber want to go against the likes of those schools when he could go against some of the best the state has to offer. Examples like these is why we as a country are in the state we are today instead of working hard and playing for the school you grew up at and playing some of the best competition in Ohio you leave and play against some bad small school teams so you can win some regular season games then lose early in the playoffs. Then people come on here and blows my mind saying you need your head examined why wouldn't you want to play 70-0 games all regular season instead of being challenged.

Wow the whole big school playing small schools and always winning...That my friend is what a school just outside Findlay does to schools that are as big as one of their classes. You know who im talking about

[dw629]

clutch, on 11 February 2013 - 10:38 PM, said:

Lol wow. Silly thought.....but maybe when his parents decided to send him to the catholic schools in junior high, it was because of the advantages off of the field?

Yep, that's it. Go to an LCC game 75% of basketball roster is african american yet 95% of study body is white. Why don't all the kids in Lima get the same chance as the best athletes LCS has, don't try to feed me a lie I know several kids who cannot get in or have been treated poorly that came from LCS and weren't "stud" athletes. I have 0 respect for how that school is ran I am a fan of OG and I know for a fact when we play LCC we have twice the amount of Catholics on our team, it is time to change their school name to Lima Central Christan.

[Rd2Glory]

dw629, on 12 February 2013 - 08:14 AM, said:

Yep, that's it. Go to an LCC game 75% of basketball roster is african american yet 95% of study body is white. Why don't all the kids in Lima get the same chance as the best athletes LCS has, don't try to feed me a lie I know several kids who cannot get in or have been treated poorly that came from LCS and weren't "stud" athletes. I have 0 respect for how that school is ran I am a fan of OG and I know for a fact when we play LCC we have twice the amount of Catholics on our team, it is time to change their school name to Lima Central Christan.

About 75% of the school is white.

Ever watch an NBA or D1 college basketball game? Is the demographic in those games representative of the American population? Are you crying foul there as well? Notice a trend?

There are also plenty of white students on vouchers and plenty African American students who are not. Try to see past the skin color, you ignorant fool.

Edited by Rd2Glory, 12 February 2013 - 09:04 AM.

[clutch]

dw629, on 12 February 2013 - 08:14 AM, said:

Yep, that's it. Go to an LCC game 75% of basketball roster is african american yet 95% of study body is white. Why don't all the kids in Lima get the same chance as the best athletes LCS has, don't try to feed me a lie I know several kids who cannot get in or have been treated poorly that came from LCS and weren't "stud" athletes. I have 0 respect for how that school is ran I am a fan of OG and I know for a fact when we play LCC we have twice the amount of Catholics on our team, it is time to change their school name to Lima Central Christan.

You obviously have no clue....keep digging that hole.

[NW Ohio Football Fan]

dw629, on 11 February 2013 - 08:00 PM, said:

I know because it makes so much sense for big bad Darius West to cover these stud farm boy 5.1 40 receivers at Allen East and Paulding instead of showing these D1 recruits that he can play in the best conference in ohio that has DOZENS plural of scholarship players. Some of the top recent alums of these schools. Even though there are dozens of big athletes from these schools I chose one from each Whitmer- Kevin Koger- Michigan TE Toledo Central Catholic- dane sanzenbacher-former osu WR current chicago bear Toledo St. Johns- Rob Chudzinski- current Browns head coach Findlay-Ben Roethlisberger Clay -Kevin Kovacs-current starting Safety Michigan Fremont Ross-Charles Woodson Or NWC type talent if I'm a big recruit in Lima I know what I would chose and I would get all the other athletes back to my home school and make Lima relevant again. It's no fun watching LCC lose to D5 LB every year in first or second round, compete at the big boy level.

How do you showcase your talents when the team you are playing pulls their starters half way through the second quarter because they are ahead by forty. I think you might be over estimating your Spartans. How many Division I football athletes have been signed from Lima Sr. in the past 12 years. LCC has played more playoff games 17 total (10-7) in the past 8 years than your Spartans have won during that same stretch. Even you DW629 are smart enough to figure out that once you get to the second round of playoffs and when there are only 16 teams left in each division that everyone is good at that point. Why so much hatred of LCC. I did not see one Lima Sr. name on your list of scholarship athletes. A question for you: Just exactly how well have you been competing at the big boy level. I do not see where Lima Sr. is relevant even in their own conference let alone the area. You fail to realize LCC has 130 boys total in the top 3 grades. Many consider them one of the top 10 Division V programs in the state. The first step to rebuilding a program is to realize where the state of your program is. Concentrate on small steps that demonstrate improvement. Trashing good kids like "Darius West" and good programs like "LCC" make you look jealous.

Edited by NW Ohio Football Fan, 12 February 2013 - 04:21 PM.

[NW Ohio Football Fan]

dw629, on 12 February 2013 - 08:14 AM, said:

Yep, that's it. Go to an LCC game 75% of basketball roster is african american yet 95% of study body is white. Why don't all the kids in Lima get the same chance as the best athletes LCS has, don't try to feed me a lie I know several kids who cannot get in or have been treated poorly that came from LCS and weren't "stud" athletes. I have 0 respect for how that school is ran I am a fan of OG and I know for a fact when we play LCC we have twice the amount of Catholics on our team, it is time to change their school name to Lima Central Christan.

You might want to get your facts straight before you make yourself look uninformed. LCC in 2004 was 5% miniority, but in 2013 LCC is 21% miniority. Check the state department of education's enrollment numbers. I think that LCC now looks very much like the Lima community that it represents. I will say with certainty that every student is required to participate in Catholic Mass at school weekly. I respects that not all students are Catholic but every student is learning to be respectful of each other's faith. Sounds like character education to me. Unfortunately not everyone who applies gets accepted, and like every school not every one has a perfect experience, but LCC has many positive opportunities to offer students. I think the positives of LCC make them an excellent alternative to Public school. I do not believe for one second that LCC only accepts "stud athletes" from Lima City Schools. I believe that most LCS students truely come to LCC because of the many positive opportunities, as well as the security of LCC schools.

[dw629]

A. they are not MY Spartans I have no ties to the school other than dislike for LCC
B. I did not bash West so knock that off
C. apparently the alumni feels the same way I do, look at LCC stands for a basketball game it is embarrassing for a D3 team that good
D. D1 players from Lima Senior 12 years: Jarrod Pughsley and Tyler White current D1 Athletes also Travis Walton and I believe another kid played football for Wake Forest could be wrong and I am sure there are others that I do not know. Those are just ones I have heard over past decade or so.
E. I am sure you are talking about LB as small school outside of Findlay that plays smalls schools and gets wins. 1. They don't recruit and 2. they just went through region 18 to state (including straight through LCC TWICE) for the 3rd time in 8 years with schools their size and they do not pull kids from Findlay High so that is a non argument there too

[Rd2Glory]

dw629, on 12 February 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

A. they are not MY Spartans I have no ties to the school other than dislike for LCC
B. I did not bash West so knock that off
C. apparently the alumni feels the same way I do, look at LCC stands for a basketball game it is embarrassing for a D3 team that good
D. D1 players from Lima Senior 12 years: Jarrod Pughsley and Tyler White current D1 Athletes also Travis Walton and I believe another kid played football for Wake Forest could be wrong and I am sure there are others that I do not know. Those are just ones I have heard over past decade or so.
E. I am sure you are talking about LB as small school outside of Findlay that plays smalls schools and gets wins. 1. They don't recruit and 2. they just went through region 18 to state (including straight through LCC TWICE) for the 3rd time in 8 years with schools their size and they do not pull kids from Findlay High so that is a non argument there too

You already illustrated to everyone on here that you associate voucher/non-voucher and Catholic/non-Catholic based on the color of the student athlete's skin. This fact alone displays the incredible amount of ignorance with which you post. You've also demonstrated how very little you know about LCC. Please, stop posting on this thread before you embarrass yourself further.