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[Rocketman]

Badlands, on 09 December 2012 - 09:07 PM, said:

North Baltimore is not in the BVC.

Next year they will be joining the league.........it's already been approved

and just remember when we broke this story last year.........ALL the Lima media blasted the RC saying it wasn't true.........well after about 2 days after it exploded on here they knew
that they would have to come clean.........the LCC AD got on the radio and TV and gave "the official LCC response." And I was holding myself from gagging as they tried to spin this
in a way that didn't make them sound like the bad guy..........they even had Lima's own Mike Mullen go along with the story........LCC ain't DSJ.......the MAC has NO PROBLEM with them because they know that they are doing it the right way........LCC on the other hand has not.........once Coach Coop landed on Cable Rd. the problems started and they will
continue until he is gone....LCC was never going to be a problem.........they are now. The NWC decided that the only way to kill the monster was to cut off it's head......without Cooper leaving they had no other choice........


and Flounder was just yanking your chain when he said that LCC would make a great fit in the BVC

[flounder]

Man, I never realized that LCC was heads above everybody....I mean...they sound very superior.....

Rocketman.......

I am still laughing at the reaction....sorry.....I will also say this Rocketman.....you hit it on the head when you said Cooper is the problem!!!!!!

[Osu4me]

roadtoC-town, on 09 December 2012 - 08:12 AM, said:

But I think it will hurt LCC equally. What do the kids have to play for during season?? Pride can only go so far. No tough conference games will hurt you in the playoffs.

WBL should send Defiance packing to Napolean's league and add LCC. I dont know if Elida, Bath, Shawnee would like that but their wallets would love it.

Which teams in the NWC did you consider tough? The NWC is weak, LCC has proved that by having early exits in playoff. Ada can only go so far in playoffs because most of their conference games is D5 teams, but once Ada hits the Mac in playoffs their season is over too.

As for LCC in the WBL...... There wallets would love it?? LOL.....one needs to look back into the past for the answer to that one. I think LCC got out to make it lighter on the wallet!!!

[JohnMcClane]

Osu4me, on 09 December 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

Which teams in the NWC did you consider tough? The NWC is weak, LCC has proved that by having early exits in playoff.

If the NWC is that bad. Then didn't the NWC do LSCC a favor to get them out of playing teams that cause them to lose playoff games. It has to be the competition that causes them to lose. It couldn't be the coaches not getting results come playoff time. Also does LSCC really have D1 athletes on their team or did the weak NWC teams make them look like D1 athletes.

Edited by JohnMcClane, 09 December 2012 - 10:18 PM.

[Osu4me]

Since you brought it up, how many D1 players came from the NWC? Stayed D1 and actually played? Not trying to prove a point here or anything just actually wondering how many in the past 5 years? Or 10?

[ADog]

Osu4me, on 09 December 2012 - 11:06 PM, said:

Since you brought it up, how many D1 players came from the NWC? Stayed D1 and actually played? Not trying to prove a point here or anything just actually wondering how many in the past 5 years? Or 10?

Off the top of my head just for football, 3. Crestview's Kory Lichtensteiger and Ada's Dysert & Jackson. Then you have LCC's O' Connor at MSU who should be playing with next year or 2. Thinking there are more for football players and pretty sure there are other sport athletes from the NWC in D1 or within past 10 years. May have to research that a little

[jeffcat-bucki]

Osu4me, on 09 December 2012 - 11:06 PM, said:

Since you brought it up, how many D1 players came from the NWC? Stayed D1 and actually played? Not trying to prove a point here or anything just actually wondering how many in the past 5 years? Or 10?

Lichtensteiger is playing for the Redskins.
1 of Paulding's offensive lineman plays for Kent State right now.
Seth Thitoff from DJ played DE at Toledo
Ada sent some guys to BG
Not sure who went to places after that

I think a lot of guys had potential to play at D1 school, but opted against it being "local" guys and wanted to be closer to home which is why you see a lot of guys go to ONU, Bluffton, BGSU, Indy, etc. Some of those guys dominate at those lower levels too, but that's not just the NWC that does that.

[jeffcat-bucki]

LCC is the perfect fit for............





























.............no conference.

[flounder]

LCC was a independent for years and seemed to flourish.....I think scheduling will be the biggest obstacle.....as for not having a conference trophy to play for each season......well, I don't think that will be a factor since it was pretty much a given that LCC would win it anyway......so, if LCC schedules up.....leaving the NWC will benefit them Immediately!!!!!!!

[Long Shot]

flounder, on 09 December 2012 - 04:41 PM, said:

I feel that LCC would be a great fit for the BVC........even the MAC....but, I know the MAC would completely have to change the league around...plus a couple teams closer would also like to get in the MAC....heck, the BVC puts up with Liberty Benton....LCC isn't that much different!!!!!

BVC not a good fit..... two or three loses a year in football would keep them out of the playoffs.

[longshot89]

Osu4me, on 09 December 2012 - 11:06 PM, said:

Since you brought it up, how many D1 players came from the NWC? Stayed D1 and actually played? Not trying to prove a point here or anything just actually wondering how many in the past 5 years? Or 10?

Eli Waltz (Spencerville class of '05, DT) played football at Colombia. Ivy League is D1 right? At least FCS. Played four years after redshirting freshman year.

[jeffcat-bucki]

flounder, on 10 December 2012 - 11:24 AM, said:

LCC was a independent for years and seemed to flourish.....I think scheduling will be the biggest obstacle.....as for not having a conference trophy to play for each season......well, I don't think that will be a factor since it was pretty much a given that LCC would win it anyway......so, if LCC schedules up.....leaving the NWC will benefit them Immediately!!!!!!!

Seemed to flourish? Didn't they get smashed by Coldwater like 73-0 in football or something along those lines and were perennial cupcakes on everybody's schedule football-wise? LCC has always been solid at basketball and decent to good at track, but until the past 6 or 7 years, their sports programs have all taken off and improved, most notably football.

[jeffcat-bucki]

longshot89, on 10 December 2012 - 12:17 PM, said:

Eli Waltz (Spencerville class of '05, DT) played football at Colombia. Ivy League is D1 right? At least FCS. Played four years after redshirting freshman year.

I think he might have played DE at Spencer, but I remember hearing he was doing quite well at Columbia.

[roadtoC-town]

Osu4me, on 09 December 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

Which teams in the NWC did you consider tough? The NWC is weak, LCC has proved that by having early exits in playoff. Ada can only go so far in playoffs because most of their conference games is D5 teams, but once Ada hits the Mac in playoffs their season is over too.

As for LCC in the WBL...... There wallets would love it?? LOL.....one needs to look back into the past for the answer to that one. I think LCC got out to make it lighter on the wallet!!!

I am talking basketball and football. It helps building your team when you get a little anxiety playing for the title in your season. I think it hurts Columbus Grove playing in 2 conferences and having too many big games.

Don't understand your last statement. My point is Shawnee going to sell more tickets when they play at LCC or at Defiance? Is Bath going to have more people in the stands when Defiance comes to town or when LCC drives over?

[Emerson]

LCC should just say the hell with the NWC - we aren't playing you - we're done. Still don't know why LCC AND the NWC agreed to keep each other on the schedule. NWC should have said goodbye, and good luck. Now LCC should just say we don't want any part of you if you don't want us in the conf.

LCC should just schedule the brutal schedules and just make it a state run or bust kind of thing. The amount of exposure it would give LCC for playing top teams in the state in basketball/football would surely give kids a lot more schollys and it would bring in more talent. If your accused of recruiting then just do it and make state runs with kids. Don't try and set it on the back burner and say OH NO WE DON'T DO THAT.. LCC faithful don't care as long as their programs are winning, and since joining the NWC LCC sports have thrived. Take it to the next level - we're going to schedule top powers in the state, go for state championships - join us or get out of our way and screw the NWC.

Keeping LCC/NWC on the schedule to relieve the burden of scheduling is insulting to LCC and the NWC.

[JohnMcClane]

Emerson, on 10 December 2012 - 02:43 PM, said:

LCC should just say the hell with the NWC - we aren't playing you - we're done. Still don't know why LCC AND the NWC agreed to keep each other on the schedule. NWC should have said goodbye, and good luck. Now LCC should just say we don't want any part of you if you don't want us in the conf.

LCC should just schedule the brutal schedules and just make it a state run or bust kind of thing. The amount of exposure it would give LCC for playing top teams in the state in basketball/football would surely give kids a lot more schollys and it would bring in more talent. If your accused of recruiting then just do it and make state runs with kids. Don't try and set it on the back burner and say OH NO WE DON'T DO THAT.. LCC faithful don't care as long as their programs are winning, and since joining the NWC LCC sports have thrived. Take it to the next level - we're going to schedule top powers in the state, go for state championships - join us or get out of our way and screw the NWC.

Keeping LCC/NWC on the schedule to relieve the burden of scheduling is insulting to LCC and the NWC.

How can that be? LSCC sports have thrived since joining a confernece that has been a burden on them. You can't have it both ways.

[Emerson]

JohnMcClane, on 10 December 2012 - 02:54 PM, said:

How can that be? LSCC sports have thrived since joining a confernece that has been a burden on them. You can't have it both ways.

You may want to re-read my post. You say "Burden on them" - I say "Burden of scheduling" - as in .. Why does NWC agree to keep LCC on the schedule for 3 more years if they want them out. The burden of scheduling refers to scheduling an Independents schedule.. why does the NWC care who they play..or don't play..

[flounder]

jeffcat-bucki, on 10 December 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

I think he might have played DE at Spencer, but I remember hearing he was doing quite well at Columbia.

Bucki......

There you go again.....this is the basketball forum.....no helmet head talk allowed!!!!!!!

[flounder]

jeffcat-bucki, on 10 December 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

I think he might have played DE at Spencer, but I remember hearing he was doing quite well at Columbia.

lmao......

Is there anything that you know nothing about.....and what the hell is Spencer....do you mean township!!!!

[Mr Bearcat]

I could be wrong, but I thought I heard the LCC AD say that being in a Conference was Not that important to them. It might have just been an ease of scheduling thing to be in a conference. I think the NWC will be more balanced without LCC. If one team wins quite a few of the titles, that does Not make the Conference stronger. They survived for a long time without a Conference, so they will be fine. I do think it is good that there is a two year scheduling agreement, so all parties do Not have scramble to find someone to play.