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osufan512, on 19 October 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:

Here's to hoping it doesn't rain so that when LCC wins the weather cannot be an excuse.

It might be an excuse for LCC the way Stolly throws the ball and the way Washington holds it like a loaf of bread.

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osufan512, on 19 October 2012 - 10:48 AM, said:

West doesn't even run track.

Sorry...I must have confused him with Rogers.

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osufan512, on 19 October 2012 - 09:46 AM, said:

You're telling me if you were building a team from the ground up you would choose Ansley over West?

That depends on the team in my opinion.

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jeffcat-bucki, on 19 October 2012 - 10:52 AM, said:

I'm not leaning one way or the other, but this pretty much sums up why having the best "prospects" doesn't always mean you have the best players for a particular team. Cleveland Glenville is an excellent example of this and their inability to win state even with their combined ability of bringing Cleveland athletes together. The point is, Sam Huffman, while not the best "prospect" for LCC, is probably the MVP of the team for LCC. Likewise, the same can be said for Ada. They don't have a lot of "prospects", but a lot of quality players as a whole on the team that work well in that system. Some players just "get the job done".

I definitely agree with that statement.

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jeffcat-bucki, on 19 October 2012 - 10:53 AM, said:

It might be an excuse for LCC the way Stolly throws the ball and the way Washington holds it like a loaf of bread.

He's only thrown 3 INT all season, what's wrong with how he throws?

Now, Washington, I agree on that one.

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Decker is a stud. That said, to think he's better than washington is laughable. Huffman is the best wr between both teams. Ill give ada line play, qb, possible lbs and lcc takes dbs in a landslide.

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clutch, on 19 October 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

Decker is a stud. That said, to think he's better than washington is laughable. Huffman is the best wr between both teams. Ill give ada line play, qb, possible lbs and lcc takes dbs in a landslide.

Ill give Ada line play as well. Not LBs though. Lasenby is a stud.

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osufan512, on 19 October 2012 - 11:43 AM, said:

Ill give Ada line play as well. Not LBs though. Lasenby is a stud.

Yea you're right. Ill even say thhat ada is a better team. To say that they are better at the skill poistions though (other than qb) is just inaccurate.

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osufan512, on 19 October 2012 - 11:43 AM, said:

Ill give Ada line play as well. Not LBs though. Lasenby is a stud.

Lazenby is a better defensive player for LCC than West is. The problem is it's Lazenby, then a pretty big drop off after that, so Ada would have better LBs overall in my opinion.

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jeffcat-bucki, on 19 October 2012 - 12:15 PM, said:

Lazenby is a better defensive player for LCC than West is. The problem is it's Lazenby, then a pretty big drop off after that, so Ada would have better LBs overall in my opinion.

I think that is a tough comparison, West to Lasenby. Lasenby is a LB so he is right in on a lot of the action in both the run game and the pass game. Where as West is a CB and is out on the edge guarding a guy one on one a lot of the time. So of course it is easy to assume that Lasenby is better because he shows up in more plays by the nature of his alignment on the field. All I know is, I will take both players on LCCs side!

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LCC may have the best player in the league but when you have a team full of phenomenal athletes put on one single TEAM I feel that team is going to win. Ada doesn't have a West but they do have a great core of skill players. I'm going to be honest, this Ada team may be the best overall team I've watched in many years. You can go back to the years of Zach Dysert and Mitchell Faine and I will still take this Ada team over all of those teams because they finally have a dominant back (Decker), Great receivers (Wilcox, Ansley, Roberson) and a QB that is starting to come in to his own (Acheson). The only weak spot they have is their linebackers. Blake Ansley is a little undersized and teams have been exposing that by simply using their big backs and running right at Blake. That's the ONLY weakness Ada has.

Edited by Dr. Lou, 19 October 2012 - 12:54 PM.

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How is LCC going to be able to guard all three of Ada's top recievers (Ansely, Roberson, Wilcox) and still be able to shut down their runningback who has rushed for 1,400 yards so far this season (Decker) Who is the best back in the area taking stats alone. Don't forget that Ada is a pass based team.

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Dr. Lou, on 19 October 2012 - 12:53 PM, said:

LCC may have the best player in the league but when you have a team full of phenomenal athletes put on one single TEAM I feel that team is going to win. Ada doesn't have a West but they do have a great core of skill players. I'm going to be honest, this Ada team may be the best overall team I've watched in many years. You can go back to the years of Zach Dysert and Mitchell Faine and I will still take this Ada team over all of those teams because they finally have a dominant back (Decker), Great receivers (Wilcox, Ansley, Roberson) and a QB that is starting to come in to his own (Acheson). The only weak spot they have is their linebackers. Blake Ansley is a little undersized and teams have been exposing that by simply using their big backs and running right at Blake. That's the ONLY weakness Ada has.

I agree ada doesnt have the top prospects like west...or the crazy speed with all the lcc skilled guys... but they have a group of athletes that know how to play football.... ada is more rounded then lcc and lcc has more weakness but lcc's strengths are very good

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LoveItWhenYouCallMeBigSexy, on 19 October 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

How is LCC going to be able to guard all three of Ada's top recievers (Ansely, Roberson, Wilcox) and still be able to shut down their runningback who has rushed for 1,400 yards so far this season (Decker) Who is the best back in the area taking stats alone. Don't forget that Ada is a pass based team.

Speaking historically with a Cam Staley defense, they will guard the three receivers with Pitts, West and Huffman and get after the QB to force him into mistakes.

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clutch, on 19 October 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

Decker is a stud. That said, to think he's better than washington is laughable. Huffman is the best wr between both teams. Ill give ada line play, qb, possible lbs and lcc takes dbs in a landslide.

Look at their stats alone..

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osufan512, on 19 October 2012 - 01:25 PM, said:

Speaking historically with a Cam Staley defense, they will guard the three receivers with Pitts, West and Huffman and get after the QB to force him into mistakes.

I don't care how good of skilled guys you have if you don't see the spread consistantly you will have trouble covering all the receivers...just look at OSU, I think they have some pretty decent skilled guys in their defensive backfield.

Edited by haydenfox50, 19 October 2012 - 01:46 PM.

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LoveItWhenYouCallMeBigSexy, on 19 October 2012 - 01:25 PM, said:

Look at their stats alone..

Stats alone would say kentons qb is one of the best in the nation. Stats last couple years said baker was a better qb then oconnor. You can have your stats....

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Like I said earlier, from what I've seen from both teams, ada probably has the better team right now. Lcc has the better athletes with the most potential.

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Dr. Lou, on 19 October 2012 - 12:53 PM, said:

LCC may have the best player in the league but when you have a team full of phenomenal athletes put on one single TEAM I feel that team is going to win. Ada doesn't have a West but they do have a great core of skill players. I'm going to be honest, this Ada team may be the best overall team I've watched in many years. You can go back to the years of Zach Dysert and Mitchell Faine and I will still take this Ada team over all of those teams because they finally have a dominant back (Decker), Great receivers (Wilcox, Ansley, Roberson) and a QB that is starting to come in to his own (Acheson). The only weak spot they have is their linebackers. Blake Ansley is a little undersized and teams have been exposing that by simply using their big backs and running right at Blake. That's the ONLY weakness Ada has.

I would have to disagree with you there...the year Dysert was a jr. and Heath Jackson was a freshman would beat this years team by double digits. i actually think this Ada team is probably the weakest they have had in the last five or so years.

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haydenfox50, on 19 October 2012 - 01:45 PM, said:

I don't care how good of skilled guys you have if you don't see the spread consistantly you will have trouble covering all the receivers...just look at OSU, I think they have some pretty decent skilled guys in their defensive backfield.

That may be true for most small schools that spend the entire year in a cover 3 deep zone, not really applicable to teams that spend most of the time in man-to-man. LCC may have trouble stopping Ada, but it won't be because they can't figure out the scheme.

For what it's worth, LCC has faced Ada 3 times with Staley as D-Coordinator (2005-2007) and held the Bulldogs to 13, 6, and 7 points. Obviously, the players have changed for both schools, but the schemes have not changed much. So, in summary: I think you're wrong.