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[Northwestsports]

After 3 weeks looking at the standings who do you think will move to the top 8 and who will move down?

[jeffcat-bucki]

I'm hoping DJ can make it in, but even with 9 wins, there is at least some doubt as to whether the could get in.

R18 is easily one of the top 3 toughest regions to get into in the entire state with the teams and schedules around it. It's still too early to tell the final standings but teams I know that will be in are:

Liberty Center
Patrick Henry
Northwood
LCC
More than likely Carey if they beat Seneca East.

The last 3 in are where they questions lie. After that, you have about a dozen schools vying for 3 spots:
Delphos Jefferson
Seneca East
Columbus Grove
Spencer
Archbold
Liberty Benton
Western Reserve
Sherwood Fairview
Tinora
Hicksville
Wayne Trace
Columbia

[ADog]

Without crunching numbers, Carey has the possibility to pick up some major 2nd level points off of their win over D2 Toledo Scott. Scott in the2nd half of the season, plays all D1 or D2 shcools with only one of them right now with winning records. If Scott prevails( big if) Carey will benefit tremendously

[jeffcat-bucki]

ADog, on 13 September 2012 - 12:19 PM, said:

Without crunching numbers, Carey has the possibility to pick up some major 2nd level points off of their win over D2 Toledo Scott. Scott in the2nd half of the season, plays all D1 or D2 shcools with only one of them right now with winning records. If Scott prevails( big if) Carey will benefit tremendously

That's why I have them mostly in. Scott plays big pitiful Toledo City schools. Scott went 1-8 last year and Carey still made it in at 8-2. Carey beat Bluffton this year and Scott already has 1 win and will at the very least have 2 wins.

[BlueJay]

Jeffcat, there is literally no way this Jefferson team will be playing week 11. They still have Ada, Crestview, LCC, Grove and Spencerville on their schedule. I will say DJ finishes 5-5 or 6-4

[RWB 71]

I'm pegging Jefferson @ 5-5.

[Northwestsports]

I see Carey and Seneca East both losing to St Joe and Seneca East losing to Carey
Archibold probably loses to PH and LC

Edited by Northwestsports, 13 September 2012 - 04:20 PM.

[jeffcat-bucki]

Northwestsports, on 13 September 2012 - 04:14 PM, said:

I see Carey and Seneca East both losing to St Joe and Seneca East losing to Carey
Archibold probably loses to PH and LC

Did St. Joseph magically improve light years this year or what's the story there? Carey absolutely annihilated them last year.

[jeffcat-bucki]

BlueJay, on 13 September 2012 - 03:44 PM, said:

Jeffcat, there is literally no way this Jefferson team will be playing week 11. They still have Ada, Crestview, LCC, Grove and Spencerville on their schedule. I will say DJ finishes 5-5 or 6-4

It would take one hell of a disaster for DJ to go 5-5 this year. Obviously, the 2nd half of that schedule is very much in question as to what could occur, but it could be anywhere from 5-5 to probably 9-1. If you are asking me where it ends up...I wish I knew, but I don't.

[Rd2Glory]

jeffcat-bucki, on 13 September 2012 - 10:31 PM, said:

It would take one hell of a disaster for DJ to go 5-5 this year. Obviously, the 2nd half of that schedule is very much in question as to what could occur, but it could be anywhere from 5-5 to probably 9-1. If you are asking me where it ends up...I wish I knew, but I don't.

I have not seen Jefferson this year and admittedly know very little about them. That said, they gave up 34 points to Paulding, which is another way of saying they aren't good.

They have zero chance against LCC or Ada, and I would be shocked if they beat Crestview (assuming Crestview stays healthy). I haven't seen Grove or Spencerville this year.

[jeffcat-bucki]

Rd2Glory, on 13 September 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

I have not seen Jefferson this year and admittedly know very little about them. That said, they gave up 34 points to Paulding, which is another way of saying they aren't good.

They have zero chance against LCC or Ada, and I would be shocked if they beat Crestview (assuming Crestview stays healthy). I haven't seen Grove or Spencerville this year.

DJ gave up some points to Paulding, but it's not as if the game was ever the slightest bit in question. DJ was scoring on 1 play running TD plays in the game...the JV came in and played a bit after that. Buzard had almost 400yds rushing by himself, Wessel had 150yds rushing, and DJ could pretty much score at will as Paulding's run defense is atrocious. With that said, Paulding's offense isn't great, but I would put it as an improvement over last year's. If you are taking that as me claiming DJ's defense is a bunch of world beaters, you would be wrong. There is still a lot of improvement for DJ's defense, especially in super soft zone coverage, and struggles with the veer/option based offense.

DJ went 4-6 last year and nearly beat Ada in RefFest 2011. I think both teams have improved this year, so who knows at this point. It's still rather early and hard to tell, so I'm not going to do anybody an injustice by claiming I know how it will end up.

Almost the rest of those teams(outside LCC) listed are all questionable games and probably games they may or may not be favored in, but as of now, they all seem to be "winnable" games, whether they actually win or not.

[dhsdawg06]

PH
LC
Northwood
Carey
LCC
Tinora
Liberty-Benton
Archbold


In no particular order.

[Rd2Glory]

jeffcat-bucki, on 13 September 2012 - 11:38 PM, said:

DJ gave up some points to Paulding, but it's not as if the game was ever the slightest bit in question. DJ was scoring on 1 play running TD plays in the game...the JV came in and played a bit after that. Buzard had almost 400yds rushing by himself, Wessel had 150yds rushing, and DJ could pretty much score at will as Paulding's run defense is atrocious. With that said, Paulding's offense isn't great, but I would put it as an improvement over last year's. If you are taking that as me claiming DJ's defense is a bunch of world beaters, you would be wrong. There is still a lot of improvement for DJ's defense, especially in super soft zone coverage, and struggles with the veer/option based offense.

DJ went 4-6 last year and nearly beat Ada in RefFest 2011. I think both teams have improved this year, so who knows at this point. It's still rather early and hard to tell, so I'm not going to do anybody an injustice by claiming I know how it will end up.

Almost the rest of those teams(outside LCC) listed are all questionable games and probably games they may or may not be favored in, but as of now, they all seem to be "winnable" games, whether they actually win or not.

That's fair. As I mentioned, I know very, very little about DJ, so my opinion on this subject pretty much means nothing lol. Good luck to Jefferson the rest of the season.

[jeffcat-bucki]

Rd2Glory, on 14 September 2012 - 01:10 PM, said:

That's fair. As I mentioned, I know very, very little about DJ, so my opinion on this subject pretty much means nothing lol. Good luck to Jefferson the rest of the season.

That's alright.

I think it's early enough in the season, that most people don't know a whole lot about anything...including their own teams. Things usually start to pan out more around week 7 or 8 when you see more results across a broader spectrum. It's hard to follow everybody, even in small school NW Ohio.

[BlueJay]

Jefferson has 2 pretty much guaranteed losses in LCC and Ada. 75% chance of losing to Crestview (but they lost to Bluffton so idk) and I strongly doubt they beat Spencerville. Either way, if they get in my some miracle as a 7 or 8 seed, they will probably be manhandled by PH or LCC

[jeffcat-bucki]

Seneca East lost to St. Joe
I didn't see the final, but I think Hicksville beat Fairview.
Grove lost to LCC

[jeffcat-bucki]

As a bit of...well...unfortunate news for R18 contenders, Oberlin is 4-0 currently after going 2-8 last year. The other unfortunate part is they play a lot of larger division teams that look like winnable games for them this year, so they are also now a contender in the dozen or so team race to make it in.

[Northwestsports]

jeffcat-bucki, on 13 September 2012 - 10:28 PM, said:

Did St. Joseph magically improve light years this year or what's the story there? Carey absolutely annihilated them last year.

Well I don't know if they Magically improved but I think they are much better than last yr and I don't think Carey is as good but that's just my opinion.

[BlueJay]

1 4-0 1234 Hamler Patrick Henry 6.5250 16.5 24.0 100
2 4-0 1172 Northwood Northwood 6.4750 15.5 26.0 100
3 4-0 874 Lima Lima Central Catholic 6.2750 15.5 24.0 100
4 3-1 864 Liberty Center Liberty Center 5.6750 11.5 28.0 100
5 3-1 134 Archbold Archbold 5.5000 12.0 25.0 100
6 4-0 772 Delphos Jefferson 5.4500 16.0 14.5 100
7 4-0 1192 Oberlin Oberlin 5.1000 17.0 8.5 100
8 3-1 316 Carey Carey 4.9000 13.0 16.5 100

Edited by BlueJay, 15 September 2012 - 12:50 AM.

[calvert_alum]

Seneca East will be traveling to Tiffin this coming week to face Calvert. SE will need a win here to have any hope of sneaking back in the playoff race. I believe they sit at #12 right now in a very competitive region 18