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doslobos, on 26 August 2012 - 10:14 AM, said:

You'd think DSJ fans would understand, but I guess getting their stud stuffed at the line in the Red Zone so regularly, combined with the inability to stop Washington or Huffman when it mattered even has them looking for excuses.

This is something that has been unfortunately true for awhile now at DSJ, they get a decent RB with good power or speed but with no ability to drive forward and take a hit. I saw flashes of brilliance when Leininger was a Junior in the Coldwater game on their last drive. I saw Jettinghoff make some awesome runs last year. But like Leininger before him it seems he has an extreme aversion to contact. One series on the LCC 10 he could have gotten another 2 or 3 yards if he dropped a shoulder and plowed forward, but instead he got hit by one guy and fell to the side.

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I thought Jettinghoff played well, other than his drop, but I agree with you to an extent.

That issue was probably highlighted a tad more last night with Washington on the field, though. That kid gains yards after contact every single time. I'd say Jettinghoff had more holes to run through, especially in the second half when they started to run right at Rogers, but Washington is just on a different level in terms of running the football, IMO. If you didn't believe that before last night, you'd have to be a DSJ fan to think otherwise now.

Edited by doslobos, 26 August 2012 - 10:38 AM.

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clutch, on 26 August 2012 - 04:12 AM, said:

LCCs kicker is out with a broken ankle and have been struggling to make xps in his absense, which is why we were going for two.

Then why did they line up for a non-extra point FG in the 1st half?

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doslobos, on 26 August 2012 - 10:14 AM, said:

If you say anything positive about LCC, regardless of how accurate, it's construed to mean that you think they are the Patriots and nobody can touch them.

You'd think DSJ fans would understand, but I guess getting their stud stuffed at the line in the Red Zone so regularly, combined with the inability to stop Washington or Huffman when it mattered even has them looking for excuses. After LB last year and Tinora three years ago, us LCC fans overstand all too well just how demoralizing it can be when you can't stop a team from running down your throat when you need the ball back.

These teams will be just fine.

Also, while Washington and Huffman probably were the best players on the field, Lasenby certainly could have made claim to that last night as well. Without him at LB, DSJ scores on at least two more trips.

This is true. Lazenby had a very good game and was player of the game in my books.

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doslobos, on 26 August 2012 - 10:32 AM, said:

I thought Jettinghoff played well, other than his drop, but I agree with you to an extent.

That issue was probably highlighted a tad more last night with Washington on the field, though. That kid gains yards after contact every single time. I'd say Jettinghoff had more holes to run through, especially in the second half when they started to run right at Rogers, but Washington is just on a different level in terms of running the football, IMO. If you didn't believe that before last night, you'd have to be a DSJ fan to think otherwise now.

Washington has some major ball carrying issues in just how he holds the ball. It's one of the many wonders of the world last night that he never fumbled considering how he was handling the ball. He did do a good job of making nothing into a little something when possible by at least driving forward and looking for the smallest of seams to squeeze through.

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jeffcat-bucki, on 26 August 2012 - 10:52 AM, said:

Then why did they line up for a non-extra point FG in the 1st half?

Because it was 4th and 6.

I didn't agree with the decision to go for two against a team like DSJ. Colin Stolly is more than capable of making extra points at least 75% of the time, which would have made a substantial difference last night.

And the punt was a called rugby punt, Rogers just made a boneheaded decision. What makes it worse is that I believe he's a right footed kicker and he immediately sprinted left. That play needs scrapped until he can prove to be a decent decision maker.

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jeffcat-bucki, on 26 August 2012 - 10:59 AM, said:

Washington has some major ball carrying issues in just how he holds the ball. It's one of the many wonders of the world last night that he never fumbled considering how he was handling the ball. He did do a good job of making nothing into a little something when possible by at least driving forward and looking for the smallest of seams to squeeze through.

Yes, it is far from ideal. However, he hasn't fumbled since his sophomore year I believe. He does a great job of tucking it before major contract. It's similar to McCoy in that I'm sure it makes their coaches cringe, but since they've proven to hold onto the ball, they're willing to live with it because it allows them to have that extra bit of shifty-ness.

Edited by doslobos, 26 August 2012 - 11:11 AM.

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doslobos, on 26 August 2012 - 11:05 AM, said:

Because it was 4th and 6.

I didn't agree with the decision to go for two against a team like DSJ. Colin Stolly is more than capable of making extra points at least 75% of the time, which would have made a substantial difference last night.

And the punt was a called rugby punt, Rogers just made a boneheaded decision. What makes it worse is that I believe he's a right footed kicker and he immediately sprinted left. That play needs scrapped until he can prove to be a decent decision maker.

Fair enough. I can't even remember Rogers punt. I was thinking of the later punt with the botched snap that the punter was somewhat forced to run with.

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Rd2Glory, on 26 August 2012 - 09:08 AM, said:

No one ever said this team was "full of world beaters" or "the best team in school history."

You sound a little bitter.

We hear literally every year how incredible LCC is going to be lol. Take a look back at years past in the last few pages of this section. I have great respect for their program & their fans (maybe not their coach but that's another story for another day). LCC is actually one of my favorite non-MAC schools in this area, and I root for them every week as long as they're not playing DSJ or one of the D5 MAC schools. Bitter is the last thing I am about this game. We'll see who's bitter in 11-12 weeks

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jeffcat-bucki, on 26 August 2012 - 10:52 AM, said:

Then why did they line up for a non-extra point FG in the 1st half?

Couldn't tell ya. Maybe they thought their odds were better with a fg rather than a td from that distance on 4th down?

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doslobos, on 26 August 2012 - 11:05 AM, said:

Because it was 4th and 6.

I didn't agree with the decision to go for two against a team like DSJ. Colin Stolly is more than capable of making extra points at least 75% of the time, which would have made a substantial difference last night.

And the punt was a called rugby punt, Rogers just made a boneheaded decision. What makes it worse is that I believe he's a right footed kicker and he immediately sprinted left. That play needs scrapped until he can prove to be a decent decision maker.

He's left footed

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BlueJay, on 26 August 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

We hear literally every year how incredible LCC is going to be lol. Take a look back at years past in the last few pages of this section. I have great respect for their program & their fans (maybe not their coach but that's another story for another day). LCC is actually one of my favorite non-MAC schools in this area, and I root for them every week as long as they're not playing DSJ or one of the D5 MAC schools. Bitter is the last thing I am about this game. We'll see who's bitter in 11-12 weeks

Well, you literally didn't hear it from anyone this year.

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BlueJay, on 26 August 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

We hear literally every year how incredible LCC is going to be lol. Take a look back at years past in the last few pages of this section. I have great respect for their program & their fans (maybe not their coach but that's another story for another day). LCC is actually one of my favorite non-MAC schools in this area, and I root for them every week as long as they're not playing DSJ or one of the D5 MAC schools. Bitter is the last thing I am about this game. We'll see who's bitter in 11-12 weeks

I don't recall seeing any of that this year. In fact, most of the talk about "how great LCC is going to be this year," is from people who come on here to bash them and say they're not "all that great."

DSJ is my favorite school to root for outside of LCC, so we're all friendly here haha.

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osufan512, on 26 August 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

Rogers is the LCC punter. He was trying a rugby punt and made a bad decision. This was not a fake punt. Also, Rogers is not just the rugby punter, he's the punter. He went down with cramps 2 plays before they had to punt the next time so Colin Stolly (the back up punter) punted the rest of the game. Not sure I understand everyone's confusion on this.

Also, no LCC doesn't think they're Kenton. Just as someone above pointed out, O'Dowd, the kicker, has a broken ankle and is out at least until week 7 or so from what I have been told. Now, where I struggle is the play calling on those 2 point conversions. Pass plays? They struggled passing the ball all night for the most part and they were trying it from the 3? That also didn't make a lot of sense.

Talked to a player after the game about the onside and I don't think that was meant to happen either. I am pretty sure that it was supposed to be a squib and didn't execute the play call.

I think you have to hand it to LCCs defense. You can talk about the inability for Delphos to score in LCC territory but give that defense credit. They rose the occasion several different times to keep the Jays out of the end zone. I take my hat off to that side of the ball.

LCC will be alright and will probably roll through the remainder or their schedule. I just hope that actually improve this year from game 1 to game 11 and not stay stagnant like they did last season. I see DSJ having the same kind of season as last season 7-3 or 8-2 and they will get into the playoffs and make a return trip to the semis. We will see what happens from there.

My mistake then I thought I saw Stolly puntijg before the rugby attempt....

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jeffcat-bucki, on 26 August 2012 - 10:52 AM, said:

Then why did they line up for a non-extra point FG in the 1st half?

Because the game was 6-0 and it was 4th and 6? I mean if you make that FG you're up 9 and get up 2 scores. If you miss it you're in same same position as if you didn't convert on 4th down. Still up 6-0 and give the opponent a long field.

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you would think a guy like doslobos who says he has watched every play and has the film to prove it would know if the punter kicks with his left foot or right foot. remember he is the same guy saying west has never been caught from behind and now washington has not fumbled since his tenth grade year.

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BOB, on 26 August 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

you would think a guy like doslobos who says he has watched every play and has the film to prove it would know if the punter kicks with his left foot or right foot. remember he is the same guy saying west has never been caught from behind and now washington has not fumbled since his tenth grade year.

I could be wrong....

Want me to find out for you? I'm sure you're dying to know.

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BOB, on 26 August 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

you would think a guy like doslobos who says he has watched every play and has the film to prove it would know if the punter kicks with his left foot or right foot. remember he is the same guy saying west has never been caught from behind and now washington has not fumbled since his tenth grade year.

Rogers has attempted exactly zero punts in his high school career. Also, in the one live scrimmage against Bath, Colin Stolly was the punter.

And as I said, I could be wrong, but I believe Washington has not fumbled since the playoff game against Archbold his sophomore year, a year in which fumbling was actually a pretty big problem for him.

And yes, West has never been run down from behind in an NWC game.

Care to know anymore?

Edited by doslobos, 26 August 2012 - 05:05 PM.

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And Mykale punts right-footed.

[BOB]

my mistake in assuming someone on the coaching staff at lcc would know what foot your punter kicks with. clutch you let me down.