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[WebFire]

polkhigh33, on 19 April 2012 - 02:18 PM, said:

I think that of Ada took the time to put together a presentation for BVC officials, there is interest. Ada was an interviewee, not an interviewer.

This. You can't say they aren't at least considering it if they are going through with this.

[ADog]

ADog, on 10 April 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

I also wonder ........being a Ada resident,I would like to see the Dogs stay in the NWC...nothing against the BVC or anything like that, it is just the long time rivals Ada has played for years would be missed. There is a good following in the NWC with good crowds for the most part. I did some figuring for when someone would state the travel etc would favor Ada joining the BVC.......average distance to BVC opponents would be 7 miles shorter than to NWC schools(This is if Hopewell Louden would also join the BVC), the average travel time to NWC opponents would be 6-7 minutes longer. Even though the BVC is closer for Ada to travel to, right now US 30 gives Ada a straight shot to several of the schools in the NWC(Delphos, Crestview, Lincolnview, Paulding, with a jaunt up Rt 127)). I would hate to lose the rivalry with Allen East, Bluffton, Columbus Grove etc. WIth that being said, I am sure new rivalries would be born in the BVC with neighboring schools such as Cory Rawson, Arlington (and Hardin Northern, but they are already on Ada schedule for all sports). Whatever happens, I know Ada fans will still support the Dogs and follow them to wherever the venue would be...

jeffcat-bucki, on 19 April 2012 - 01:35 PM, said:

Nasty midweek trips? I already did the math with HN before. It's not saving a significant amount of distance cumulatively.

Jeffcat..already did the numbers concerning travel differences for Ada between BVC & NWC...

[Hound Dog]

bob22, on 19 April 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

Why would anyone be surprized? They get rid of nasty midweek trips to places like paulding, crestview. Ada to HL might be easier to get to then specerville. Skirt the north side of findlay on a 4 lane road with little traffic or go thru the heart of lima on 117? i know what i'd pick. If i were an ada taxpayer i'd be thrilled that the school was looking to curb transportation costs. If an ada parent i'd be glad to have to drive less to see my kid play and the kids get home a little earlier on a school night. As for losing ada after "losing" lcc... Aint karma a *#@&%

Why in the hell would you go thru Lima to get to Paulding, Crestiview, Lincolnview or even Delphos? You might go thru Lima to get to 117 and Spencerville and even that is not a bad trip.

It's a short trip North on 235 to New 30 and easy trip west.

[bob22]

I see reading comprehension isnt a nwc strongpoint... sheesh.


Also if its such an easy trip west why do i hear so many people from Ada and Bluffton @#$%^ about it?

[Mr Bearcat]

Hound Dog, on 19 April 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:

Why in the hell would you go thru Lima to get to Paulding, Crestiview, Lincolnview or even Delphos? You might go thru Lima to get to 117 and Spencerville and even that is not a bad trip.

It's a short trip North on 235 to New 30 and easy trip west.

I would agree you would Not go through Lima to get to those schools, but even with the new highway it is still a long haul!

[effingA]

bob-I'll help.

bob was comparing HL trip vs Spencerville trip specifically.

You are correct-Ada would not go thru Lima to get to Crestview, Lincolnview, DJ, or Paulding.

[ADog]

Actually anyone from Ada going to Spencerville (or other way around) that goes thru the "heart" of Lima to get there has no idea how to navigate Lima

[effingA]

Agree

[Mr Bearcat]

ADog, on 19 April 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

Actually anyone from Ada going to Spencerville (or other way around) that goes thru the "heart" of Lima to get there has no idea how to navigate Lima

Well 81 goes thru Lima.

[jeffcat-bucki]

bob22, on 19 April 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

I see reading comprehension isnt a nwc strongpoint... sheesh.


Also if its such an easy trip west why do i hear so many people from Ada and Bluffton @#$%^ about it?

I can't really say that I've ever heard what you have.

[caldwell]

osufan512, on 19 April 2012 - 02:01 PM, said:

I think what bob22 was trying to say is the league kicks out LCC, and its karma that the league (NWC) could lose the other good team now too.

Keep in mind that ADA is on a high now!!! Not so long ago they were down. This is all part of highschool sports. No schools in the NWC has a problem with the schools on a winning streak. They do have a problem with a school recruiting from all of Lima land and competing in a conference with schools with limited boundaries.

[TheFan]

caldwell, on 20 April 2012 - 07:48 AM, said:

Keep in mind that ADA is on a high now!!! Not so long ago they were down. This is all part of highschool sports. No schools in the NWC has a problem with the schools on a winning streak. They do have a problem with a school recruiting from all of Lima land and competing in a conference with schools with limited boundaries.

Well said Caldwell!!!!

[osufan512]

caldwell, on 20 April 2012 - 07:48 AM, said:

Keep in mind that ADA is on a high now!!! Not so long ago they were down. This is all part of highschool sports. No schools in the NWC has a problem with the schools on a winning streak. They do have a problem with a school recruiting from all of Lima land and competing in a conference with schools with limited boundaries.

Such a great and well informed post rooted in FACT! 1st of all where has any evidence or proof of recruiting come from? No where! If LCC has been actively recruiting Limaland like you all claim then they should be investiagated by the OHSAA. But wait, there is no reason for that because nothing wrong is going on.

And on a second note, you say the NWC has an issue competing with a team with no boundary, and that the league schools all have a "limited boundary"? Again, where's the proof in that they have limited boundaries? ALL of them? Wait, there is NONE. In fact, let me proove to you just how limited the NWC schools boundaries are. According to the information I got straight from the OHSAA, there are only two schools with "somewhat" limited boundaries.

NWC Schools with Statewide open enrollment:

Pauling
Bluffton
Jefferson
Ada
Crestview
Allen East

Schools with open enrollment only to students living in an adjacent school district:

Columbus Grove
Spencerville

Again, where are all the schools that have limited boundaries on this list? I see two and even they can still get students from outside their own district lines.

Get a clue!

[polkhigh33]

Ada is the wildcard here if the BVC absolutely votes to expand...the other three schools are an automatic "yes." I can't see the league taking an odd number of schools.

[gamekeeper]

Such a great and well informed post rooted in FACT! 1st of all where has any evidence or proof of recruiting come from? No where! If LCC has been actively recruiting Limaland like you all claim then they should be investiagated by the OHSAA. But wait, there is no reason for that because nothing wrong is going on


So if you don't get caught speeding then you aren't speeding is that what your saying. Cooper has approached players from other schools to come play for him, and I am sure they are other coaches that have done the same thing in other districts. LCC just gets hit with the most criticism because well, you have no district. No one is going to drive 20 miles to take their kid to school. (well almost no one) So when you are speaking of Lima as a whole, LCC is a situation where it can be practical to drive a student to school. To a school that is has some success in sports, compared to some of their immediate counter parts..

But this has been debated and discussed to death, so Any word on when a decision will be made on the topic that this is at hand and who is coming to the BVC

[Buckshot]

polkhigh33, on 20 April 2012 - 08:55 AM, said:

Ada is the wildcard here if the BVC absolutely votes to expand...the other three schools are an automatic "yes." I can't see the league taking an odd number of schools.

Have to disagree with Polk on this one. I don;lt think the BVC will ask both Tiffin and NB. I'm guessing one or the other at most or neither.

[polkhigh33]

I actually meant those three schools would automatically say yes to the BVC if asked, not that the BVC would automatically ask them.

I figured Calvert would be the last choice of the four.

[jawbreaker]

osufan512, on 20 April 2012 - 08:39 AM, said:

Such a great and well informed post rooted in FACT! 1st of all where has any evidence or proof of recruiting come from? No where! If LCC has been actively recruiting Limaland like you all claim then they should be investiagated by the OHSAA. But wait, there is no reason for that because nothing wrong is going on.

And on a second note, you say the NWC has an issue competing with a team with no boundary, and that the league schools all have a "limited boundary"? Again, where's the proof in that they have limited boundaries? ALL of them? Wait, there is NONE. In fact, let me proove to you just how limited the NWC schools boundaries are. According to the information I got straight from the OHSAA, there are only two schools with "somewhat" limited boundaries.

NWC Schools with Statewide open enrollment:

Pauling
Bluffton
Jefferson
Ada
Crestview
Allen East

Schools with open enrollment only to students living in an adjacent school district:

Columbus Grove
Spencerville

Again, where are all the schools that have limited boundaries on this list? I see two and even they can still get students from outside their own district lines.

Get a clue!

I don't want this thread to be taken over about this subject but I do know that some administrators don't take issue with what is happening on the field but rather with state money. All the schools you mentioned above have to be transparent with any funds going into the school. However, private schools that accept vouchers from the state do not have to be so transparent. Thus many administrators wondering where the state money is going.

[Mr Bearcat]

osufan512, on 20 April 2012 - 08:39 AM, said:

Such a great and well informed post rooted in FACT! 1st of all where has any evidence or proof of recruiting come from? No where! If LCC has been actively recruiting Limaland like you all claim then they should be investiagated by the OHSAA. But wait, there is no reason for that because nothing wrong is going on.

And on a second note, you say the NWC has an issue competing with a team with no boundary, and that the league schools all have a "limited boundary"? Again, where's the proof in that they have limited boundaries? ALL of them? Wait, there is NONE. In fact, let me proove to you just how limited the NWC schools boundaries are. According to the information I got straight from the OHSAA, there are only two schools with "somewhat" limited boundaries.

NWC Schools with Statewide open enrollment:

Pauling
Bluffton
Jefferson
Ada
Crestview
Allen East

Schools with open enrollment only to students living in an adjacent school district:

Columbus Grove
Spencerville

Again, where are all the schools that have limited boundaries on this list? I see two and even they can still get students from outside their own district lines.

Get a clue!

Schools usually lose as many as they gain in Open Enrollment. LCC has no actual district, so they would have to recruit to have students at all.

[Buckshot]

polkhigh33, on 20 April 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:

I actually meant those three schools would automatically say yes to the BVC if asked, not that the BVC would automatically ask them.

I figured Calvert would be the last choice of the four.

My bad. Would agree with you. I think any MAL scholl would say yes to an invite