
Vanlue
#181
Posted 02 April 2012 - 01:44 PM
Ten years from now the kids playing won't know or care if Hiland or Elida had kids that transferred or were unworthy of playing. They will simply read in the OHSAA program that they made it to the state basketball tournament.
#182
Posted 02 April 2012 - 01:50 PM
Putnam County Lady, on 02 April 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:
Ten years from now the kids playing won't know or care if Hiland or Elida had kids that transferred or were unworthy of playing. They will simply read in the OHSAA program that they made it to the state basketball tournament.
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#183
Posted 02 April 2012 - 02:40 PM
Putnam County Lady, on 02 April 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:
Ten years from now the kids playing won't know or care if Hiland or Elida had kids that transferred or were unworthy of playing. They will simply read in the OHSAA program that they made it to the state basketball tournament.
#184
Posted 02 April 2012 - 07:04 PM
Basketball has been changing for years and will continue to do so in the future.
#185
Posted 02 April 2012 - 07:30 PM
And I certainly don't see how riding a bike in a marathon compares unless the organizers of the marathon, the OHSAA, said it was legal: like they did for all those transfers competing for their new schools.
#186
Posted 02 April 2012 - 08:18 PM
Worrying about what those reading the program believe misses the bigger point. Our fathers and those before them had a lot more people buying and reading those programs. They don't even sell programs at the AAU tournament. Often a kid at the AAU tournament chooses his team the day of...
It took baseball decades to go from "America's Game" to some place around MMA and NASCAR. I would hate to see basketball trend the same. But you would have to have your head in the sand to not see the attendance trends and apathy magnitudes.
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#187
Posted 02 April 2012 - 08:38 PM
effingA, on 02 April 2012 - 07:30 PM, said:
Now you are just playing dumb for the sake of it. Your contention has been that it is unfair to judge different accomplishments accordingly. This is a silly and indefensible position. Major League Baseball never punished Barry Bonds. Society judges his accomplishments differently because of the means he utilized to achieve his success. Society does not judge an "A" in Math II the same as an "A" in Calculus...even if you want to argue and honestly believe they SHOULD. What these two, of countless examples demonstrate is that how you achieve success matters to society...as does the difficulty of the path you take.
Your contention that "transfer" assisted teams should be judged equally to teams that DO NOT utilize transfers is not based on any empirical observations of typical sociological behaviors. You can individually believe what you want. But the masses WILL judge accomplishments based on the difficulty of the task AND the means utilized to accomplish the task.
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#188
Posted 02 April 2012 - 08:43 PM
Dman, on 02 April 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:
Worrying about what those reading the program believe misses the bigger point. Our fathers and those before them had a lot more people buying and reading those programs. They don't even sell programs at the AAU tournament. Often a kid at the AAU tournament chooses his team the day of...
It took baseball decades to go from "America's Game" to some place around MMA and NASCAR. I would hate to see basketball trend the same. But you would have to have your head in the sand to not see the attendance trends and apathy magnitudes.
this is why dman is da man! always.....
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#190
Posted 02 April 2012 - 09:25 PM


lol
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#191
Posted 02 April 2012 - 09:42 PM
Dman: If a local high school power that has won multiple state titles in the past decade did so a couple times with an open-enroller from another district, is that school and its titles automatically tainted in your eyes?
#192
Posted 02 April 2012 - 09:57 PM
slice slice baby, on 02 April 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:


lol
I think it is good to see you out making the rounds again....people really missed you because you are such a nice person and very good mod....you cheer people up...good to have you back slicer!!!!!!
#193
Posted 02 April 2012 - 10:10 PM
Putnam County Lady, on 02 April 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:
#194
Posted 03 April 2012 - 06:05 AM
We ARE losing our integrity...PERIOD!
#195
Posted 03 April 2012 - 07:34 AM
My point to Dman is that you use the thesaurus and right a Master's thesis about morals, integrity, etc. but your own head coach was going to do what you so deeply dislike by transferring his own son if he would have gotten the CG job.
Also how about all the guys who played when there were only A and AA tournaments? You think they might believe its easier to when a Championship in current times especially if you were a small school back then??
Times and the game has evolved and will continue to do so in the future.
#196
Posted 03 April 2012 - 08:42 AM
paperboy, on 02 April 2012 - 09:42 PM, said:
Dman: If a local high school power that has won multiple state titles in the past decade did so a couple times with an open-enroller from another district, is that school and its titles automatically tainted in your eyes?
#197
Posted 03 April 2012 - 08:46 AM
The only local school that I can think of that has won multiple titles in the last decade is ottawa. I don't believe they had any transfers.......Also delphos saint johns has won multiple titles in football.....transfers?
#198
Posted 03 April 2012 - 09:29 AM
#199
Posted 03 April 2012 - 11:19 AM
#200
Posted 03 April 2012 - 01:44 PM
Putnam County Lady, on 03 April 2012 - 07:34 AM, said:
My point to Dman is that you use the thesaurus and right a Master's thesis about morals, integrity, etc. but your own head coach was going to do what you so deeply dislike by transferring his own son if he would have gotten the CG job.
A thesaurus won't help you, but a decent dictionary could advise the correct use of "write" versus "right.". As for the scary obsession with Coach Smith, whom you never miss an opportunity to discredit, safe to say we can join forces and point out his use of transfers when and IF it happens. Until then, the normal unobsessed response to this discussion would be to utilize coaching examples of those who have actually done that which you find unsettling.
But then again...if your point is that utilizing transfers is a decent and inevitable endeavor, then one would think your voodoo insight to Coach Smith's "could have been" actions are a golden reflection on the man.
As a fan of Delphos Jefferson and Coach Smith...I thank you for the high regard...
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