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DonnyDonuts, on 27 February 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:

Fast, pressure at all times from all angles.
Everyone on the team can shoot from anywhere on the floor and will not hesitate to put up the shot.
Plays under control at all times that I have seen them.
Will use their bench some but not as much as in the past and are well conditioned.
They will be a very tough out for any team in DIV

While I like the synopsis...if this was completely true, one could name this team state champs right now! Donny saw us on a pretty good night and when we were clicking (like most teams), we are certainly tough to beat. HOWEVER...just like all teams, we sometimes have flaws as well. CommonSense is right, we struggled against Carey late in the year but I think games like that will make us stronger in tourney play instead of blowing out every team we play like last year. This team has to work hard each game in order to win, and that is pretty much what they do. Heck, Cory Rawson had us down 4 late in 1st before we went on a crazy run to end it in first half.

One thing for sure, we will be well coached, well conditioned and bring the defense every night. If the shots happen to fall for us, it typically equates to a victory. If not, you hope the defensive effort can keep us in it as it typically does. Looking forward to a very competitive game Thursday...with the winner being a heavy favorite in the District Final on Saturday.

[falconfan84]

veteranlefty, on 27 February 2012 - 10:25 AM, said:

Not sure what Holgate has but I would consider it a pretty big upset if Arlington does not get out of this district. Am I the only one who thinks this?

falconfan84, on 25 February 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

Arlington should not have much trouble with Holgate, unless they play like they did early on against C-R. The L-B District is Arlington's to lose.

[D.C. Boy]

This sounds like it is going to be a great game! I've seen Holgate twice this year once on a good night once on a bad night. Holgate has three ladies that score 10 plus the past several games. Niese runs them like dogs 8-6-4-2's every day. Heard Niese's favorite saying is Dress like Girls play like Girls so they have not dressed up all season. Niese has been some hot water this year with ethics. Looking forward to this game scores could be up in the 70s.

[Mysterio]

I know the state rankings are flawed but I think we can all agree that Arlington is at least in the top 5 of best teams in the state. Is Holgate playing better since that month of December ya I believe so, but I still feel this is Arlingtons district to lose which is why I say any team that beats them in districts would be a clear upset. Either way I'm sure Holgate will give them a good game but it won't be enough.

Edited by Mysterio, 28 February 2012 - 09:58 AM.

[PostPlayer]

Quite topic this week despite being the premier game tonight IMO.

Expecting a very good, close and intense basketball game based on what I have heard about Holgate. I remember two years ago that Holgate brought a large contingency to LB so I expect the same tonight. However, playing at LB should be some advantage to Arlington being less than 10 miles away.

Tick Tock TIck Tock....any predictions?

I will go Arlington 56, Holgate 43 in a close game till end.

[rstefosu07]

Leipsic handles Riverdale 51-34 to move on to the District Final.
Pulled away early in the third quarter with an 8-0 run to lead by 20 in the first two minutes in the second half.

[Common Sense]

Leipsic's on a roll now, playing well. Great second game, as to be expected. Holgate had them, not sure i don't foul with time running down in regulation, seen too many teams lose because they allow a 3 pointer to send it to OT. Should be a good game Saturday night.

[PostPlayer]

Pretty boring game tonight between Holgate and Arlington....

Arlington dominated 1st half - up by 15 - then the 2nd half Holgate dominated and held Arlington to 4 pts in the 3rd. Holgate took first lead of night late in 4th and looked like it was OVER....up 3 with 14 sec left. Arlington hits 3 ball w/ 4 sec left on an out of bounds play and WHALLAH...we go to OT where Arlington took over and won by 6 or 7.

Crazy game. Congrats on a great year to Holgate, who almost pulled the upset and tonight was the night to do it. Arlington missed a ton of 3 footers which is very uncharacteristic and then shot 20% from FT line in 2nd half to allow Holgate to make their run. Wow - this from a team that has shot nearly 70% for the year as a team from the FT line...

On to play Leipsic Saturday night in a rematch from earlier this year.

[bballcat]

Holgate had too many turnovers in the first half. Played how they could play the second half. Knew they would be competitive. Why when you are ahead by 3 you don't foul a girl instead of letting them shoot a wide open three. She had already made 3 before that. Coach yelled don't let them shoot a two. What? Great game between two great teams. Good Luck Saturday to Arlington. Also wondereed why they didn't discuss taking any time off of the clock when it wasn't started properly. Only 2 seconds ran off that whole time. Wasn't the difference in the game but was just wondering why. Will miss the three seniors and especially Morgan. A great 1000 point scorer. Thanks for the memories girls.

[Louden Swayne]

I hope the timekeeper can sleep tonight

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bballcat, on 01 March 2012 - 10:54 PM, said:

Holgate had too many turnovers in the first half. Played how they could play the second half. Knew they would be competitive. Why when you are ahead by 3 you don't foul a girl instead of letting them shoot a wide open three. She had already made 3 before that. Coach yelled don't let them shoot a two. What? Great game between two great teams. Good Luck Saturday to Arlington. Also wondereed why they didn't discuss taking any time off of the clock when it wasn't started properly. Only 2 seconds ran off that whole time. Wasn't the difference in the game but was just wondering why. Will miss the three seniors and especially Morgan. A great 1000 point scorer. Thanks for the memories girls.

Turnovers:
Arlington - 8
Holgate - 22

Arlington wins based on tremendous defensive pressure (again). Defense will determine how far this team advances, and if we happen to shoot the ball well on top of that - pretty tough to beat us. Holgate had a good chance tonight as we shot the ball terribly and Holgate deserves credit for their defensive effort as well. Someone had to go home at the end of the day. #20 is a nice player for Holgate - very aggressive. She had no FG's in 2nd half...credit to Arlington defense.

[redbird]

PostPlayer, on 02 March 2012 - 12:36 AM, said:

Turnovers:
Arlington - 8
Holgate - 22

Arlington wins based on tremendous defensive pressure (again). Defense will determine how far this team advances, and if we happen to shoot the ball well on top of that - pretty tough to beat us. Holgate had a good chance tonight as we shot the ball terribly and Holgate deserves credit for their defensive effort as well. Someone had to go home at the end of the day. #20 is a nice player for Holgate - very aggressive. She had no FG's in 2nd half...credit to Arlington defense.

Post, how bad do you think the Devils will beat Leipsic? This is a rematch from earlier this year and last year's district final. I don't think the Vikings have the elements to pull off the monumental upset. What was the score from earlier this year? What's your prediction?

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redbird, on 02 March 2012 - 07:18 AM, said:

Post, how bad do you think the Devils will beat Leipsic? This is a rematch from earlier this year and last year's district final. I don't think the Vikings have the elements to pull off the monumental upset. What was the score from earlier this year? What's your prediction?

I checked MaxPreps - according to their site, Arlington won 54-38 on December 15th. I think this would be a pretty monumental upset if Leipsic can knock off Arlington IMO. They say you have to have a good bounce per se to get to Cbus, I am hoping last nights win was just that...a break that finally went our way. Having said that, I cannot see Arlington letting down their guard against Leipsic knowing a likely matchup with Ottoville is one game away.

I thought we showed great character and poise last night when we went down late in the game for the first time. A great play, a great shot and a fortunate stop at the end of regulation to get to District Finals.

I say we win convincingly, but not the blowout some think. Leipsic is obviously playing better.

[NDLOVER]

Was told this morning 10- 20 seconds should have gone off the clock late in the 4th quarter but didn't. Did this affect the outcome at all?

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NDLOVER, on 02 March 2012 - 08:24 AM, said:

Was told this morning 10- 20 seconds should have gone off the clock late in the 4th quarter but didn't. Did this affect the outcome at all?

Indeed - they did not start the clock. Surprised no one has mentioned this before now. It would be easy to say it did affect the outcome and if I was from Holgate I would probably be saying that. It wasn't the last minute of game or anything but was in 4th quarter. Post game - Holgate's coaches made sure the score table knew how they felt too...don't blame them.

I say, we got our first break in the history of the Dean Dome....which is amazing in itself. The only saving grace is that the timekeeper is not from either school as it would have been in regular season.

[Common Sense]

NDLOVER, on 02 March 2012 - 08:24 AM, said:

Was told this morning 10- 20 seconds should have gone off the clock late in the 4th quarter but didn't. Did this affect the outcome at all?

On the surface, you'd think so, but there were multiple possessions, and multiple senairos the following 2/3 minutes that the time clock snafau is irrelevant. Of course the losing team's fans are going to complain. Most importantly, under 10 seconds and up by 3, you DON'T let the other team shoot a 3 point shot.
And for anyone to think Arlington losing last night would have been an upset??? C'mon. These two teams appeared evenly matched, and could have gone either way. Don't compare the way you play in the other 17-18 blowout wins you had during the season, I'm sure there was a completly different mindset in the fourth quarter last night. Kids play different in a tight game.

[waterloowonder]

NDLOVER, on 02 March 2012 - 08:24 AM, said:

Was told this morning 10- 20 seconds should have gone off the clock late in the 4th quarter but didn't. Did this affect the outcome at all?

Of course it did. Do the math. Reminds me of the Kansas - Michigan State game in the late 1980's. Kansas was handed the game when the clock didn't run for like 20 seconds. They went on to win the National Championship. Holgate should have fouled with under 10 seconds to go so Arlington did not have a chance to tie it with a 3. I don't understand why this is not an automatic decision for teams in that situation. Maybe the coach said to do that, but it wasn't done. I was listening to the game on the radio, and the announcers said the same thing. Great comeback by Holgate. Sorry it had to end like this.

[Common Sense]

waterloowonder, on 02 March 2012 - 09:00 AM, said:

Of course it did. Do the math. Reminds me of the Kansas - Michigan State game in the late 1980's. Kansas was handed the game when the clock didn't run for like 20 seconds. They went on to win the National Championship. Holgate should have fouled with under 10 seconds to go so Arlington did not have a chance to tie it with a 3. I don't understand why this is not an automatic decision for teams in that situation. Maybe the coach said to do that, but it wasn't done. I was listening to the game on the radio, and the announcers said the same thing. Great comeback by Holgate. Sorry it had to end like this.

If I recall, there was 2/3 minutes left when the clock didn't start. Both teams had multilple possessions, some took time off the clock. I really feel this is irrelevant to the outcome. So if the clock started on time, Holgate runs 10-20 less seconds off the clock at the end? Pretty much when you get to :45 or :30 seconds, everyone manages the clock about the same way. If you're behind, you try to steal the ball or foul, if you're ahead, you try to run time. Clock not starting had nothing to do with the outcome of this game.

[waterloowonder]

Common Sense, on 02 March 2012 - 09:06 AM, said:

If I recall, there was 2/3 minutes left when the clock didn't start. Both teams had multilple possessions, some took time off the clock. I really feel this is irrelevant to the outcome. So if the clock started on time, Holgate runs 10-20 less seconds off the clock at the end? Pretty much when you get to :45 or :30 seconds, everyone manages the clock about the same way. If you're behind, you try to steal the ball or foul, if you're ahead, you try to run time. Clock not starting had nothing to do with the outcome of this game.

I don't disagree with your assessment, but Holgate sure would have liked to see that time run off.

[PostPlayer]

I agree that Holgate made one heck of a run to get back in it in 3rd quarter. Arlington up 13 pts in 3rd quarter, cruising. Then a 4 pt play, followed by Atown miss. Next offensive trip - 3 pt play. All of the sudden, we have a HUGE momentum swing and a 6 pt game. Arlington scored like 6 pts in the 3rd quarter and was completely out of sorts.

I also agree on the time clock - while it would be hard to swallow on Holgate's side - there was 2:16 left. What happens from that point on is totally different if that time winds down. Arlington strategy, as well as Holgate's, changes...

I have said early on...to make it to Cbus you have to be GOOD, TALENTED AND GET A BREAK. This is obviously a break we will take and run with and when I mean break I mean hitting a HUGE 3pt shot w/ 10 sec in game and also the time clock issue. SOmetimes you make your breaks. Kudos to Coach Newlove for drawing up the play, to Amelia Recker for making a tremendous pass that was not an easy one, to Alivia Recker for a good pick and certainly to Jess Hunter for catching, shooting and making a 20 ft 3 pt shot under tremendous pressure.