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#301 cubbies4life

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 05:51 PM

View PostPostPlayer, on 17 April 2012 - 07:54 AM, said:

All valid points Cubbie...however, you are missing ONE MAJOR POINT...

LB HAD their D3 opponent on their schedule and LOST to them (Elida). FIrst you want the tougher opponent for computer points, then you lose Craft, lose the game and NOW DON'T want to play them (but you point out that you would have beat them w/ Craft). What is it really? Let's not forget as well that you BOUGHT out that game with Elida so that your team could make the playoffs knowing you would have had a tough game against Elida with a 50/50 chance of winning/losing - so you literally paid to get them off of your schedule. That is fact.

Arlington had a chance to get rid of Rdale a few years ago and elected to not do so. Why? Because tradition with this school was more important than trying to get add'l points by playing a better team like Carey, etc. You cannot "chase" computer points year to year based on your team's ability - take your schedule and live with it. Some years it works out and some years it does not. As for "Arlington playing Riverdale for computer points" - that is also not true. This rivalry has been going on well before computer points were around...it has nothing to do with points. If it did, we would have bailed out when we could have and found a new opponent that would have helped us with points. Fact is - we value the rivalry more than the points, not too mention that this is one of our top 2 gates all year in football.

I guess we agree to disagree - but you have ZERO chance of refuting my comments on Elida v LB. A mixed message comes from LB on this topic - I guess it changes year-to-year based on the quality of your team.

Maybe Arlington should schedule a tougher opponent. How many times have they been to the playoffs? Gimme a break about the rivalry comment. If your saying it's more important to play Riverdale for the rivalry then playing a different team that can get you more points to make the playoffs is plain ridiculous.


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Posted 17 April 2012 - 05:56 PM

View PostFalcon86, on 17 April 2012 - 12:41 PM, said:

Post, Post, Post......always willing to bash LB without your facts.

The fact is LB attempted to renew the 2-year contract with Elida. Elida was the one that did not want to renew the contract.

Also, the BVC as is will only exist for 2 more years. After which it will be disbanded with Vanlue, Arlington and Hardin Northern voting against expansion. At that time the remaining BVC schools will enter into a new league with bigger schools to allow the likes of LB a better chance to compete in the playoffs leaving the three nay sayers to find a new league. Or, LB, among others schools, will leave the conference for greener pastures. LB leaving is what the BVC wants, but as mentioned in other posts, it only hurts the remaining BVC members as they lose out on the opportunity to beat a DIV 5 school.

It all comes down to Arlington "Cowboying Up" and approving expansion......but my guess is it will be a NO vote because Arlington does not want "tougher" competition.

LOL..Post seems to know more about LB then actual people who go to LB. BUT there are other's on the Rocket who think they know everything about the Evil Empire. They really know ZERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 08:24 AM

According to Findlay paper no Riverdale mentioned among teams trying to get into BVC....Ada,Calvert,Hopewell and NB.... do those 4 get the 8 votes needed to get in?

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 08:51 AM

Phew...probably lies in Arlington's hands...be interesting to see if others in favor of expansion threaten to pull out, similar to the SLL/NBC situation.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 09:27 AM

Disappointed that Riverdale did not seem interested at all.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 09:28 AM

View Postcubbies4life, on 17 April 2012 - 05:51 PM, said:

Maybe Arlington should schedule a tougher opponent. How many times have they been to the playoffs? Gimme a break about the rivalry comment. If your saying it's more important to play Riverdale for the rivalry then playing a different team that can get you more points to make the playoffs is plain ridiculous.

It's not entirely ridiculous. Riverdale being a D5 helps them out even if Riverdale only wins 4 or 5 games a year. Riverdale helped Arlington tremendously a few years ago when they went 8-2.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 09:30 AM

View PostWebFire, on 18 April 2012 - 09:28 AM, said:

It's not entirely ridiculous. Riverdale being a D5 helps them out even if Riverdale only wins 4 or 5 games a year. Riverdale helped Arlington tremendously a few years ago when they went 8-2.

They still don't make the playoffs much. Maybe why they don't want the expansion.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 11:41 AM

View Postcubbies4life, on 18 April 2012 - 09:30 AM, said:

They still don't make the playoffs much. Maybe why they don't want the expansion.

Yeah, but that's a product of wins and losses more than anything. Doesn't matter who you play if you finish 5-5 or 6-4.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 07:40 PM

View PostWebFire, on 18 April 2012 - 11:41 AM, said:

Yeah, but that's a product of wins and losses more than anything. Doesn't matter who you play if you finish 5-5 or 6-4.

True

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 09:34 PM

View PostWebFire, on 18 April 2012 - 09:27 AM, said:

Disappointed that Riverdale did not seem interested at all.
Me too. I'd like to hear what the board members and AD's thoughts about this are.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 10:22 PM

I'm not from LB and I am not trying to stir the pot. I just wanted to make something clear. I have a VERY good source that told me that they (LB) wanted out of the game vs. Elida whatever it took.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 04:35 AM

View PostDirtyPBear76, on 18 April 2012 - 10:22 PM, said:

I'm not from LB and I am not trying to stir the pot. I just wanted to make something clear. I have a VERY good source that told me that they (LB) wanted out of the game vs. Elida whatever it took.

That's also what I had heard as well.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 01:40 PM

I have been in and around the BVC for all my life and think expanding the league to 12 or 14 teams would be great. I think Hopewell and Tiffin Calvert would be great fits.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 11:46 PM

View PostLBHS79, on 17 April 2012 - 02:32 PM, said:

If the BVC schools vote down expansion LB will leave the BVC in two years...

info from a reliable source? or prediction? I was kinda wanting expansion, but if this is true... I say HELL NO to the expansion!
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 08:34 AM

very good source. then LB will join the league up north. :rolleyes: NW who will you bitch about then.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 11:20 AM

View PostLBHS79, on 21 April 2012 - 08:34 AM, said:

very good source. then LB will join the league up north. :rolleyes: NW who will you bitch about then.
Which league r u talking about, when u say up north, PROBABLY a no brainer ... RIGHT ... THANKS.....

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 11:44 AM

I think this league has a burg in it... along with some woods too.....maybe even a Lake to swin in. :fish2: or we could take LCC place....we already know how to recruit. :pokey:

Edited by LBHS79, 21 April 2012 - 11:58 AM.


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Posted 21 April 2012 - 12:04 PM

View PostLBHS79, on 21 April 2012 - 11:44 AM, said:

I think this league has a burg in it... along with some woods too.....maybe even a Lake to swin in. :fish2: or we could take LCC place....we already know how to recruit. :pokey:

No 'burgs in the NBC. Gibsonburg is in the TAAC now. And Perrysburg is in the NLL.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 12:05 PM

I would be shocked if LB changes leagues and goes up north or any where for that matter. There is only one sport that is affected by the league size and that is football. In everything else everybody is in. So when you consider all the sports that switching leagues would affect( Basketball, Track ,Baseball ,Softball, volley ball, soccer golf and who knows what I might have forgotten) along with jr hi sports do you think they are gonna add thousands and thousands of dollors to travel along with extra travel time just to help the football program make the playoffs? As a tax payer and even as a football fan I just could not support a move for that reason.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 12:15 PM

sorry did not know Gibsonburg left this league.....sorry North but we will be leaving if the BVC does not make some changes. 100% sure







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