Very well said my friend ^^^ I don't think it's the players that the parents are worried about, it's the younger siblings of the players the parents are worried about. With that said though, how many times are those kids REALLY paying attention to the game?
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The Lima Legion will play the Sidney Legion this Saturday for a double header. If either team wins both games, they will be the District Champions. But, if they spilt, they will play Sunday in a winner take all.
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Not sure who the next coach should be...
Damon Koverman is not ready to be a Head Coach of a Legion team. He needs to be an assistant coach and learn the game through that avenue. To give the reins of the team to such a young person could be disaster in the making.
Reiman, does a nice job...but not sure that he has the knowledge.
There are a couple of other people out there to consider.
Dave Koverman...getting him to come back as the Manager probably won't happen.
Jimmy Morris is at the top of the list in my mind. I think the players would respond to him very positively and he is a former Legion player...former coach at Lima Sr. and played for the Locos and Wright STate.
Coaching some of the best baseball talent in the area would be right up his ally, and I think the area coaches would probably accept that as well.
Another name, Chad Spencer...current Shawnee Baseball Coach...he would be great as well. The knowledge he brings to the table, and the people that he surrounds himself with
Either one of those two would be excellent choices...and they don't have "language issues"!!! LOL
Shoffner...long shot in getting him to come to Lima with the travel involved. I heard he may be leaving Russia...but not confirmed yet. The St. Marys team folded.
There is some talk that it could come back next year...and possible that you could see a Koverman surface there...maybe both of them...which would be a coup for St. Marys.
I wonder if SM ever thought of talking to Mike Wyss from Minster or Jon Dorner from St. Henry about taking that program over again.
The big thing is going to be Legion Support for the team.
Lima's Legion post seems to be pretty strong yet, but they are not as vested financially as they have been in the past.
SM is very supportive and wants the team to be strong...
Another name for SM or LIma to consider...Jason Brandt.
Damon Koverman is not ready to be a Head Coach of a Legion team. He needs to be an assistant coach and learn the game through that avenue. To give the reins of the team to such a young person could be disaster in the making.
Reiman, does a nice job...but not sure that he has the knowledge.
There are a couple of other people out there to consider.
Dave Koverman...getting him to come back as the Manager probably won't happen.
Jimmy Morris is at the top of the list in my mind. I think the players would respond to him very positively and he is a former Legion player...former coach at Lima Sr. and played for the Locos and Wright STate.
Coaching some of the best baseball talent in the area would be right up his ally, and I think the area coaches would probably accept that as well.
Another name, Chad Spencer...current Shawnee Baseball Coach...he would be great as well. The knowledge he brings to the table, and the people that he surrounds himself with
Either one of those two would be excellent choices...and they don't have "language issues"!!! LOL
Shoffner...long shot in getting him to come to Lima with the travel involved. I heard he may be leaving Russia...but not confirmed yet. The St. Marys team folded.
There is some talk that it could come back next year...and possible that you could see a Koverman surface there...maybe both of them...which would be a coup for St. Marys.
I wonder if SM ever thought of talking to Mike Wyss from Minster or Jon Dorner from St. Henry about taking that program over again.
The big thing is going to be Legion Support for the team.
Lima's Legion post seems to be pretty strong yet, but they are not as vested financially as they have been in the past.
SM is very supportive and wants the team to be strong...
Another name for SM or LIma to consider...Jason Brandt.
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There are so many teams out of Columbus, Dayton and others that kids are playing for that Legion ball is becoming lower class. Not to say that it is not good baseball, just saying the money is not there for the teams to travel and play better teams. These teams in Columbus and Dayton give kids better looks from better scouts (major league and college). I feell it is great for kids to get playing time against better competition and with the larger "market" teams other kidsdo get the chance to play legion baseball. Attitude and the willingness of parents and coaches has alot to do with where these kids are going as well.
Lima may have trouble with money for travel but you cannot question the quality. Every tourney they have entered they have won. Be it in Ottowa, Cincinnati or Columbus. The kids have shown that they can play with anyone. Last year they ended up third in the state with the youngest team in the tourney. Lima Legion may not be playing the best teams in the state but the teams they do play, they show up and play well. Getting looks from colleges may be a problem, but at the state tourney there is a whole host of D1 schools.
The future is in question though, if Legion teams continue to fold, Lima will have to move on. To what league and what sponsor, ?
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I have a feeling legion baseball is going to die out within the next 5 years. With sports being the way they are now it's tough for kids to juggle summer conditioning if they play basketball or football, maybe a job a couple times a week, and then baseball every night. The first thing to get cut out is the baseball every night because coaches are so strict about showing up to conditioning now and money is a major necessity in high school for many different reasons.
Hey Dr. when we played you were encouraged to play multiple sports. Now every coach believes that their sport is the only one at the school. I get it if the kid is on the couch, get him in the weight room. Make him run sprints and get ready for the season. Legion kids are playing all over the state and are sharpening their skills. I have a child that plays and in one day he went to the weight room for football, played basket ball for the school and then played nine innings for the Legion. I have heard multiple sports athletes say they could stop playing one sport just to get the coach off their backs. You said baseball would go. These kids said it would be football. An entire season of workouts for ten games. Basesball, if you play school and Legion you can get seventy five to eighty games in. These kids are not slackers, these are some of the hardest working players in the school. They are just asking for a little understanding. Remember it is called playing sports, PLAYING sports.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:31 AM
I believe Damon's qualified. It's a SUMMER team. He's well respected throughout the area already and he's only 21, maybe 22. From the games I've been to the kids have fun with him but if he says to do something they do it. From what I hear about Chad Spencer, he's a Nazi and might not make SUMMER baseball any fun, which makes kids quit to go enjoy their summer in other ways. This attitude is great for spring ball, don't get me wrong but not for summer. No way. Same with Morris. I know nothing about him, but would he make summer baseball fun or try to be a control freak? Really, the only thing a summer coach has to do is get a ton of games together, drive to games, and make sure the kids aren't going crazy in the dug out and let them play! not too hard. Maybe argue w/ the umpire occasionally and put a line-up together.
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Doc, your post is funny!
Spencer is not a Nazi...he is a good baseball guy that has alot of fun and the kids that play for him in the spring will attest to that.
Morris would be a good nod for the program in the long haul...He coached with the Locos and knows how to have fun in the summer. It is about managing egos and getting the stars from other HS to mesh together...Morris and Spencer could both pull that off with ease.
Damon will be ready in time...but he isn't ready right now or even next summer. How is he respected in the community??? You can't be respected due to what your father has built...what has he done to be respected??? He is 30 games into being an assistant coach and you are ready to hand him the reins to the program????
It is his only coaching experience to my knowledge...
I don't know him very well...so not trying to kick him or anything...just saying...his first asst. coaching gig and you are ready to give him the reins...I think there are other people out there that are ready now and he could do good by tutoring under them as well.
Problem they will have is that most legion coaches do not get paid to be there...it is all volunteer. I am sure that the Legion does some special things for the guys over the summer...
It is more than just getting games together, driving to the away games...or even arguing...you better thoroughly know the game or you can get boxed in pretty quickly.
Spencer is not a Nazi...he is a good baseball guy that has alot of fun and the kids that play for him in the spring will attest to that.
Morris would be a good nod for the program in the long haul...He coached with the Locos and knows how to have fun in the summer. It is about managing egos and getting the stars from other HS to mesh together...Morris and Spencer could both pull that off with ease.
Damon will be ready in time...but he isn't ready right now or even next summer. How is he respected in the community??? You can't be respected due to what your father has built...what has he done to be respected??? He is 30 games into being an assistant coach and you are ready to hand him the reins to the program????
It is his only coaching experience to my knowledge...
I don't know him very well...so not trying to kick him or anything...just saying...his first asst. coaching gig and you are ready to give him the reins...I think there are other people out there that are ready now and he could do good by tutoring under them as well.
Problem they will have is that most legion coaches do not get paid to be there...it is all volunteer. I am sure that the Legion does some special things for the guys over the summer...
It is more than just getting games together, driving to the away games...or even arguing...you better thoroughly know the game or you can get boxed in pretty quickly.
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Today, Lima beat Sidney 11-1 in Game 1 and Sindey took Game 2, 7-6. So it's winner take all tomorrow in Sidney.
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The Lima Legion beat Sidney 13-3 today to go the State Tournament in Lancaster.
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The Lima Legion beat Sidney 13-3 today to go the State Tournament in Lancaster.
Good luck to the Lima Legion at the State Tournament! I believe this will be their best shot to win the tournament for the next couple years.
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The state competition is going to be tough...Napoleon is probably going to be the favored team to win it all...Lima would be next. I haven't heard much about the other teams in the tournament.
Napoleon can be defeated...bringing the "A" game is important. Getting down to them early could be a disaster. Hopefully they won't see each other until late in the winner's bracket.
If Lima can hit and pitch consistently throughout the tournament they could pull it off.
Napoleon can be defeated...bringing the "A" game is important. Getting down to them early could be a disaster. Hopefully they won't see each other until late in the winner's bracket.
If Lima can hit and pitch consistently throughout the tournament they could pull it off.
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The state competition is going to be tough...Napoleon is probably going to be the favored team to win it all...Lima would be next. I haven't heard much about the other teams in the tournament.
Napoleon can be defeated...bringing the "A" game is important. Getting down to them early could be a disaster. Hopefully they won't see each other until late in the winner's bracket.
If Lima can hit and pitch consistently throughout the tournament they could pull it off.
Napoleon can be defeated...bringing the "A" game is important. Getting down to them early could be a disaster. Hopefully they won't see each other until late in the winner's bracket.
If Lima can hit and pitch consistently throughout the tournament they could pull it off.
In Baseball, I could see where hitting and pitching consistently would help!!!
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I would guess that the top three teams are Pickerington, Sandusky, and Napoleon. I do know Pickerington has a record of aroudn 35-3 and Napoleon has a record 42-8. Not sure what Sandusky's record is. I would put Lima somewhere around 4-6 in the field.
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Lima beat Piqua tonight 17-16 in a "tune up" game before the State Tournament.
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I would guess that the top three teams are Pickerington, Sandusky, and Napoleon. I do know Pickerington has a record of aroudn 35-3 and Napoleon has a record 42-8. Not sure what Sandusky's record is. I would put Lima somewhere around 4-6 in the field.
You still have to think though, Lima can beat anybody in the state. They had the Locos beat by 2 runs and blew it in the bottom of the 9th. They also beat the Cinci Storm big time who is apparently full of D1 players. Also, did Sandusky even make it out of their district this year? I remember last year they lost twice to White House? correct me if i'm mistaken.
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You still have to think though, Lima can beat anybody in the state. They had the Locos beat by 2 runs and blew it in the bottom of the 9th. They also beat the Cinci Storm big time who is apparently full of D1 players. Also, did Sandusky even make it out of their district this year? I remember last year they lost twice to White House? correct me if i'm mistaken.
Here's the list of teams. Sandusky is in. Whitehouse is in District 1 with Ottawa, Findlay, Napoleon, etc.
D1 Napoleon Post 300 River Bandits
D2 Lima Post 96
D3 Piqua Post 184
D4 Harrison Yeager/Benson Post 199
D5 Sandusky Post 83
D6 Utica Post 92 Knox County Royals
D7 Circleville
D8 Pickerington Post 283
D9 Strongsville Post 795 Dirtbags
D10 Coshocton Post 65
D11 Beverly/Lowell Post Post 389/750
D12 Worthington Post 239
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Napoleon...1 through 9 just tough as nails...as is Sandusky, and Pickerington.
Pickerington has a number of players all who played college ball this past spring...not sure of the number.
Napoleon has a few...Yeager Post has 4 or 5 from what I have been told.
It will be interesting to see how the teams are seeded...and who will play who right off the bat!
Double Elimination puts a huge stress on pitching. Staying out of the losers bracket is going to be THE key to winning state...no matter who you are!
Pickerington has a number of players all who played college ball this past spring...not sure of the number.
Napoleon has a few...Yeager Post has 4 or 5 from what I have been told.
It will be interesting to see how the teams are seeded...and who will play who right off the bat!
Double Elimination puts a huge stress on pitching. Staying out of the losers bracket is going to be THE key to winning state...no matter who you are!
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Napoleon won opener.
Lima Lost Opener.
Haven't heard any news on Piqua...anyone got anything on their game???
Not sure who Lima has next...but Napoleon and Utica play each other...loser I think will play Lima but not sure on that...could be dead wrong.
Winner plays Pickerington...
Lima Lost Opener.
Haven't heard any news on Piqua...anyone got anything on their game???
Not sure who Lima has next...but Napoleon and Utica play each other...loser I think will play Lima but not sure on that...could be dead wrong.
Winner plays Pickerington...
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Piqua got pounded earlier today by Sandusky ...was 26-9 last I heard.
Piqua is losing to Strongsville 5-2 in the 3rd.....loser goes home
Napoleon beat Utica 18-2 earlier today...putting Utica in the loser's bracket
Utica is leading Lima 5-2 in the 7th.....loser goes home
Piqua is losing to Strongsville 5-2 in the 3rd.....loser goes home
Napoleon beat Utica 18-2 earlier today...putting Utica in the loser's bracket
Utica is leading Lima 5-2 in the 7th.....loser goes home
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QUOTE (FanMan @ Jul 26 2011, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Piqua got pounded earlier today by Sandusky ...was 26-9 last I heard.
Piqua is losing to Strongsville 5-2 in the 3rd.....loser goes home
Napoleon beat Utica 18-2 earlier today...putting Utica in the loser's bracket
Utica is leading Lima 5-2 in the 7th.....loser goes home
Piqua is losing to Strongsville 5-2 in the 3rd.....loser goes home
Napoleon beat Utica 18-2 earlier today...putting Utica in the loser's bracket
Utica is leading Lima 5-2 in the 7th.....loser goes home
Lima ended up losing 6-2.
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