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[lefty]

Sounds like another Ohio Cannon idea that ended up with management making promises they never kept and getting some investers that were never paid back. A very slippery slope. I hope I'm wrong.

[TiGgEr3]

Sounds like another Ohio Cannon idea that ended up with management making promises they never kept and getting some investers that were never paid back. A very slippery slope. I hope I'm wrong.

I think you will be. Like I said, these guys have done their research and are good businessmen with a good plan and are keeping everything on the up and up.

[Emerson]

Following the league's first public offering in 2006, it was reported that Joe Newman was voted out of his position as league CEO.[5] A form filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission in February 2007 claimed the ABA Board of Directors removed Newman as league CEO on January 31, 2007. It went on to state that Newman's actions as league CEO would be reviewed to ensure that they were performed with the Board's permission.[6] The same filing also claimed that Newman and other shareholders plotted to remove Tom Doyle, John Salley, and David Howitt from the Board and elect Paul Riley as its director. Newman denied his removal ever occurred, and continued as acting CEO.[7] The lawsuits were settled in March 2007 with Doyle's and Salley's resignations from the league Board of Directors.
The 2006-2007 season saw many franchises fail to travel to road games or play a full schedule. When a weather problem required a postponement of a playoff game between the defending champion Rochester Razorsharks and the Wilmington Sea Dawgs, instead of letting the two teams reschedule, the league wanted to force Rochester to forfeit. Rochester instead withdrew from the league.[8] This incident, coupled with the CEO v. COO intrigue, caused to some league owners to become frustrated with the instability of the league and separate to form the Premier Basketball League (PBL).


The 2007-2008 season saw nearly twenty teams fold within its first five weeks, and several remaining teams left the ABA to join other existing leagues. According to Our Sports Central, only around 35% of the games were actually played in the 2007-08 season. The teams that played the highest percentage of games were Vermont, the Manchester (NH) Millrats, and the Quebec Kebs. Those three teams would leave to the PBL at the conclusion of the season.[9][10] Another team that only played home games was Beijing Aoshen Olympic. This team was kicked out of the Chinese Basketball League and played home games in Singapore. Beijing would pay $3000 and fly teams to Singapore for a 2-game homestand. Early teams complained on Our Sports Central that they were forced to stay in a hotel that doubled as a brothel. Joe Newman CEO forced Beijing to find a new hotel on hearing this news. Later teams stayed in a Holiday Inn.
The league's most successful franchise by attendance, the Halifax Rainmen, left the ABA, citing frustration with teams not showing up for games, as well as a biased ranking system. Numerous sportswriters essentially referred to the ABA as a joke, and not to be taken seriously.[11]


The 2009-2010 season was scheduled to have over 50 teams. The season ended with several teams folding, starting in early December, including the entire northwest division. The league playoffs also had several games cancelled due to teams unable to afford travel, including a semi-final playoff game.[12] The playoffs ended with Southeast Texas Mustangs defeating Kentucky Bisons in a three game series.
On April 25, 2010 as part of their ABA Global initiative, the ABA hosted the 2010 ABA Friendship Games, where the Philippine National Basketball Team competed against teams from the ABA.[13]

Edited by Emerson, 13 March 2011 - 12:51 PM.

[TiGgEr3]

Which sportswriters? Source?

So because something didn't work in the past you shouldn't try it now and see if you can do it better?

Edited by TiGgEr3, 13 March 2011 - 03:21 PM.

[Emerson]

http://www.oursportscentral.com/boards/sho...ead.php?t=18458

http://www.oursportscentral.com/boards/sho...ead.php?t=18539

http://www.oursportscentral.com/boards/sho...ead.php?t=17662

http://www.oursportscentral.com/boards/sho...ead.php?t=18536 <-- first post. Most important.

Edited by Emerson, 13 March 2011 - 03:42 PM.

[Emerson]

Sources :
http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/alex_walling/...ts-alex_walling

http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/sports/a...game-731149.php

http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/2009/...ba_554304.shtml

[Emerson]

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic....=8&t=942316

[TiGgEr3]

Thank you.

[kaizen]

Thank you.

thank you what? i said it was a joke, emerson got punished. and all you say is thank you. what does that mean? do you agree its a farce or what?

[TiGgEr3]

thank you what? i said it was a joke, emerson got punished. and all you say is thank you. what does that mean? do you agree its a farce or what?

No. I meant thank u to him for being productive and backing up what he was saying with links. I don't even remember you posting here ever so I clearly was not talking to you.

Those teams are privately owned UNDER the ABA umbrella, the ABA itself has nothing to do with how or who the teams are run by except for being the league they play in is my point.


I just think it's narrowminded to talk crap about something and basically say oh it'll be dead asap before it's even happened once but hey, that's just me.

[Emerson]

well i say guilty by association then. Clean up the image.

[TiGgEr3]

well i say guilty by association then. Clean up the image.

Hopefully Lima can help do just that by being a model team.

[Emerson]

One team isn't going to flip an entire corrupt organization. One team isn't going to make the aba look more appealing to people that already know about it.

These people running it are told, or already know how to run a team involved in the ABA, they aren't looking to clean it up. Like you said they're looking for profitability, and they knew right where to go. Start out in big cities, and go smaller and smaller.


More teams are shut down then are newly established from year to year.

Edited by Emerson, 13 March 2011 - 04:52 PM.

[Dflyers]

http://abalive.com/2011-expansion/

[Dflyers]

I hope they do fine!

[TiGgEr3]

So you're saying we won't be seeing you at any games Emmy?

[slice slice baby]

So you're saying we won't be seeing you at any games Emmy?

[Rocketman]

So you're saying we won't be seeing you at any games Emmy?

I think he's saying that you won't be seeing many people at any games.......I don't remember much about the Lima
Mixers playing but I've heard that there are quite a few children (now young adults) running around with their genes....

I wish this venture the very best but after reading some of the links and googling this Coleman character, I don't hold
out much chance for it's success........for the life of me I can't figure out why Butler would give up a fairly lucrative contract
overseas to play in Elida, Ohio......I will reserve further judgment until the finished product is on the court........zoooom

[Emerson]

So you're saying we won't be seeing you at any games Emmy?

Maybe if they have a fan appreciation night....

[TiGgEr3]

I think he's saying that you won't be seeing many people at any games

I will reserve further judgment until the finished product is on the court........zoooom

Rocket you're wrong, I meant him specifically.

At least you're trying I guess.