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[dhsdawg06]

Amir Williams. Shannon Scott. Lenzelle Smith. A few other big time recruits. They'll be fine. Maybe not final four fine, but they'll be fine. And Craft does the 2 things that can't be affected by early departure. Play tough, physical defense and play with a high motor.

Edited by dhsdawg06, 29 March 2012 - 08:24 PM.

[cubbies4life]

Victorian, on 29 March 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

Still too early to tell. OSU has to match up with Kentucky.....
He is playing fine but should Sully and Thomas leave, next year will be MUCH different.

Thomas should stay for one more year but if he has a great weekend his stock will rise higher. Sullinger is gone.

[Johnstown Benny]

Victorian, on 29 March 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

Still too early to tell. OSU has to match up with Kentucky.....
He is playing fine but should Sully and Thomas leave, next year will be MUCH different.

Victoria,

Sounds quite similar to your post about a year ago or so when you predicted that
Craft would be moved from the point guard position once Shannon Scott arrived on the scene.

Scott is currently 28 % (20 for 71) from the field for the year and.056 % (1 for 18) on three point attempts and
22% from the foul line ( 2 for 9 ).

You also thought Craft would lack the foot speed to effectively play defense at the Big 10 level.

I guess, you're probably right, 38 games into the season is too early to tell. . .maybe Matta will heed your
advice and start Shannon Scott at point guard if the Bucks are to have any chance at all.

JB

[gamekeeper]

Actually I think Thomas is more ready for the NBA than Sullinger. He can score from the outside and inside, where Sullinger is a 6'9 post player who has struggled with big college players. Wait til he hits the NBA and plays against bigger stronger men. Sullinger will eventually be okay, if he works hard. But he will have a big adjustment period, to the NBA

Craft will still be the point guard next year, I am willing to bet because he isn't not a score first thinker and you can't have your shooting guard be a pass first thinker. Scott will be the off guard or continue to be a bench player. If what he shows when he comes off the bench he isn't afraid to shoot. And this is all mute depending on what Thomas and Sullinger decide. Which I think it depends on the next two games for both of them..

Craft is the coach on the floor that controls the tempo OSU plays and I think Matta likes having someone he trusts that controls the flow and the offense. We may not like his shot or the fact he stops shooting if he misses a couple, but he doesn't turn the ball over hardly at all, and most of the time makes the right choice in pushing not pushing the tempo. And in college, in Matta's system, that works for OSU.

Edited by gamekeeper, 30 March 2012 - 08:47 AM.

[gamekeeper]

Victorian, on 29 March 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

Still too early to tell. OSU has to match up with Kentucky.....
He is playing fine but should Sully and Thomas leave, next year will be MUCH different.

On this comment. One thing about college basketball you get to recruit what your team needs. Craft will do what he does now, and Matta will get players that will fill the Thomas, Bufford, Sullinger's shoes. I don't think Craft will change as much as Matta will just get players that Craft can get the ball to. I can get scorers. I can't always get a good floor general. Stop trying to make AC what he isn't and except him for what he his, and that's one of the best defenders in college basketball, and one of the best distributors.....Let's face it. He is playing more minutes, and has made more plays than you and some critics ever thought he would. Just come to the Light, it's okay to admit. "He is a good point guard for OSU" He is playing D1 college ball and is successfu. It's okay admit it.

Edited by gamekeeper, 30 March 2012 - 10:01 AM.

[cubbies4life]

Victorian, on 31 March 2012 - 08:01 AM, said:

Nah, he'll need Scott's scoring ability at the 2 and Craft obviously can't shoot it so he needs to stay at point. That said, Scott may leave.

Still negative about a kid who is on this weeks Sports Illustrated. LOL

[TiGgEr3]

Uk > osu
Uk crowned on Monday no matter how well the messiah plays "d"

[cubbies4life]

TiGgEr3, on 31 March 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

Uk > osu
Uk crowned on Monday no matter how well the messiah plays "d"

Wow. Going out on the limb.

[TiGgEr3]

Your point?

I've seen UK in person this year, I know they're EASILY the best team left

[dhsdawg06]

UK is the best team left no doubt. BUT, Louisville just showed us how to beat them. Tough, physical D, crash the offensive boards, get some transition points. The ONLY thing they didn't do was knock down shots when they needed them most. Ohio State can play that same D and has enough depth on offense to hit those shots.


I'm picking Kentucky to win it all still, but it's not like they're unbeatable. Had plenty of close calls through the season that they pulled out.

[roarintiger1]

Obviously, Ohio State did not have enough depth on offense tonight.

[gamekeeper]

Thomas being out for that time period effected the offense and defense for Ohio State. Hats off to Kansas, I didn't think they were going to ever get into the game after the first half. They just didn't seem to be able to get anything going offensively. Then Robinson got going.

This match up will be a good match up. Ky is the better talent, no doubt, but Kansas has some size and strength that I think will make the game entertaining. If kansas keeps finding a way to score, then we should get to see a great championship game.

[cubbies4life]

This may be wishful thinking but is Sullinger really ready for the NBA? Has his stock dropped? I believe he needs to develop a consistent outside shot. He can not post up players his size or bigger. Imagine how he would of performed against Kentucky big boys?


Thoughts?

[gamekeeper]

Victorian, on 02 April 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

He'll be an unathletic 4 in the NBA and get taken off the bounce and dunked on night in night out.....oh and get his shot thrown into the 5th row. I've always felt DeShaun will be the best pro of the 3 prospects......but that's not saying much.

Also, after watching tonight, I have reservations re Davis star potential in the NBA.

I will agree with you that I think Sullinger will struggle in the NBA. But Davis? He will play and be successful. He is 6'10. He was 6'2" two years ago. He hasn't developed an upper body yet to go with his growth spurt......I think Davis will do just fine in the NBA. Remember unlike most kids his size coming out of college he played guard all his life..

[RonnyD]

gamekeeper, on 03 April 2012 - 08:19 AM, said:

I will agree with you that I think Sullinger will struggle in the NBA. But Davis? He will play and be successful. He is 6'10. He was 6'2" two years ago. He hasn't developed an upper body yet to go with his growth spurt......I think Davis will do just fine in the NBA. Remember unlike most kids his size coming out of college he played guard all his life..

Agreed. I was a huge skeptic of Davis' for most of the year. Sure he was good defensively, but he did almost nothing on the offensive end but dunk lobs or get rebound putbacks.

Then, magically, we began to see signs of him growing up as an offensive player. I don't know if he has finally become comfortable with his body and length or what, but he now has shown a pretty good stroke out to 18-20 feet, and a postup game with both right and left hand hooks. His growth this year has been amazing to me.

Add that to the defensive presence he brings (better than anything I've ever witnessed at the college level), and the fact he is still growing into his body, and I think Anthony Davis has NBA-potential to be Kevin Garnett on steriods, at least.

[cubbies4life]

Victorian, on 02 April 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

He'll be an unathletic 4 in the NBA and get taken off the bounce and dunked on night in night out.....oh and get his shot thrown into the 5th row. I've always felt DeShaun will be the best pro of the 3 prospects......but that's not saying much.

Also, after watching tonight, I have reservations re Davis star potential in the NBA.

Vic, Always don't agree but I am with you all the way on this one.