106 replies to this topic

[countywidehasbeen]

Ok Coach....you win.

[Candy]

To go out and throw 125-135 pitches during the first week of the season......

Just so we aren't misleading people... Rusty pitched in one game the first week of the season against Patrick Henry and threw 60 pitches before being pulled after the 4th.

[countywidehasbeen]

Just so we aren't misleading people... Rusty pitched in one game the first week of the season against Patrick Henry and threw 60 pitches before being pulled after the 4th.

I wasnt trying to mislead. The start against Kalida must have been his second outing? Because I know his pitch count for that game.

Im sorry to argue my case for arm health. Im sorry to argue my case about peaking armstrength at tourney time. Im sorry to argue my case about preventing arm injuries and exhaustion.

I guess I just dont know anything and should stop promoting pitch counts and proper rest?

Edited by countywidehasbeen, 27 May 2010 - 08:44 AM.

[Coach Normous]

I guess I just dont know anything and should stop promoting pitch counts and proper rest?
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Sounds good.

[caldwell]

Where is Lammers going to school, is he pitching Legion ball this summer?

[sportsnut]

Lammers is not playing baseball in college or this summer.

[bbdad]

Ahhhhh, pitch count debates, gotta love them.

There's a lot to go into arm injuries and yes, I know a thing about them. The pitching motion matters. If you know what you are looking at (not me, I know someone who can) you can accurately predict future arm trouble. The guy is uncanny.

This ties into motion somewhat; is the kid a maximum effort guy (think Kerry Wood) or does he throw freely (think Greg Maddux)?

Preparation matters. Given the bad spring in NW Ohio, how many of the kids really had their arms conditioned before the start of the season.

Pitch counts matter. Not so much the exact amount, in my opinion but how much recovery time is given to the kid after pitching over 100 pitches. However, though I don't think there should be set counts, they are just kids. Why take chances after 100? For fleeting glory? They are not fully developed and so are not as resilient as say, a 21 year old.

How the kid feels makes a difference. Coaches need to pay attention and understand what is normal stiffness and what is a sign of trouble. Elbow joint trouble is never, ever good.

And here's another factor in Ohio high school baseball. Other states make their baseball playoffs best two out of three against another team. It doesn't elminate overuse but it tends to reduce it. One stud pitcher cannot carry you to the next level. Also, there are inning restrictions in a three game playoff series in many states. It obviously coudn't eliminate every abuse but not every team makes the playoffs. Kinda like football is now.