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[PirateBlue]

Based on a previous comment by dhsdawg and Pat Summitt nearing 1000 wins-- who would you rather have be your coach or your kid's coach. Pat Summitt or Bobby Knight? Someone else?

I'd go with Pat EVERY time. Class act. CONTROLLED Discipline something Knight always lacked. Proven winner and a TEACHER.

[UGAdawg]

I do a good job of coaching from my chair when I have a bag of chips, and a glass of sweet tea! and if I lose, I still have my job and nobody knows my record! With that said, I would go with Bobby Knight out of the 2 u listed. It would be really hard for me to pick an over-all college coach. I enjoy watching several but if I could bring one back and put him back in his prime of life, it would be John Wooden.

UGAdawg..out!

[dhsdawg06]

If I'm picking out of the 2 for who I would rather have taking care of my kid for 4 years, it would be Summit. Under either I would know that they would learn valuable life lessons, but there was always the chance that Knight would harm someone.

However, if I was an AD and had to pick one to coach one game for a championship, it would be Knight. Nothing against Summit, she's a great coach. But she's never coached men, and, frankly, I'm not sure how a group of guys would react to a woman coaching them. So really nothing against Summit or her coaching, it's just that college males wouldn't take her seriously.

Other than those 2, other great choices are Phog Allen, Adolph Rupp, John Wooden, Coach K, Dean Smith, and my personal choice for coach who taught kids the most about life, the late Kay Yow.

[FutureModerator]

Under either I would know that they would learn valuable life lessons, but there was always the chance that Knight would harm someone.

However, if I was an AD and had to pick one to coach one game for a championship, it would be Knight. Nothing against Summit, she's a great coach. But she's never coached men, and, frankly, I'm not sure how a group of guys would react to a woman coaching them. So really nothing against Summit or her coaching, it's just that college males wouldn't take her seriously.

I disagree with a lot of your statements here. Knight has never harmed anyone. There was the chin slap and the "choke/grab", but nobody really ever got hurt. Those were merely a way to get the kids attention. A way to let them know that they are not more impotant than the team. and it will be Knight's way or the highway.

Secondly how can you say you would rather have Knight for a one game situation when Summit has 8 National Championships to Knight's 3.

Thirdly, i think college males would listen to Summit, she's demanding and she holds players accountable. i think she could get the most out of either men or woman. If they wanted to win, they'd pay attention to her.


I would gladly let my kid play for either one.

Edited by FutureModerator, 03 February 2009 - 11:28 AM.

[PirateBlue]

YAY! She made it! 1,000 wins -- no doubt Summitt IS the top coach. Anyone who heard her comments after the game during the ceremony should agree.

She didn't say she was lucky, fortunate, but BLESSED. She is very humble and knows it took a lot of people to make this happen.

Men or women. Pat Summitt hands down.

Check out her books: Reach for the Summitt or Raise the Roof. Both GREAT reads for any age, m or f, athlete or not.

[FrOnT RoW JOE]

Coach Summit has did something very, very special...BUT..........Coach Knight in my books....I like his style....

[PirateBlue]

Coach Summit has did something very, very special...BUT..........Coach Knight in my books....I like his style....

Oh Joe, Joe, Joe . . . .

[dhsdawg06]

I disagree with a lot of your statements here. Knight has never harmed anyone. There was the chin slap and the "choke/grab", but nobody really ever got hurt. Those were merely a way to get the kids attention. A way to let them know that they are not more impotant than the team. and it will be Knight's way or the highway.

Secondly how can you say you would rather have Knight for a one game situation when Summit has 8 National Championships to Knight's 3.

Thirdly, i think college males would listen to Summit, she's demanding and she holds players accountable. i think she could get the most out of either men or woman. If they wanted to win, they'd pay attention to her.


I would gladly let my kid play for either one.

I've got nothing against Knight and I think he got a bad rap at IU. But the fact is, when a coach is throwing a chair across the floor, or choking a player, the chance of injury is there. I have no problem with the chin slap, because he only did it when the player wasn't paying attention. He just lost his temper way too easily, and while no one ever got hurt, I consider that more luck than anything.

I still think that college aged males wouldn't listen to a woman. Yes, she's demanding, and yes she's a great coach. Just there just seems to be an overall lack of respect, especially among 18-21 year olds these days. I would rather have the hard nose coach who isn't afraid to get in their face for one game. Plus, nothing against Summit or Tennessee, because the 8 titles is a great accomplishment, but the overall quality of play in the women's game isn't all that great. You go UT and UCONN every year, then you have about 5 or 6 teams in any year that can win a title. Other than that, there are a lot of teams that just aren't very good.

But I do agree, I'd gladly have my kid play for either one.

[knightmare07]

Summit without question I mean Knight is a really good coach probably the second best after Pat but it takes quite a bit to be able to be that successful, year in and year out while maintaining the dignity that Summit does and that is why she is the better coach than Knight

[game225]

I would take Knight by far. Knight is a great teacher, and a great man. Yes he shows his anger, but in that i see the passion he has for the game and his teams. I also believe Summitt is a little overrated, and please dont take that comment in a bad way. I just believe like dhsdawg that there is always maybe three teams that can win the national championship in womens ball, and you have had all the great players that she has had, it does not take much coaching. On a side note, i am not sure how long coach K will be coaching, but he could easily get to 1000 wins, and for a mens coach to do that would be very remarkable.

[PirateBlue]

Oh my "game", you are sooooooooooo delusional~ No way Coach K will get 1,000 ! I'd even bet NObody does it! 1,000 "remarkable" for a MEN'S coach, but not a women's?

And Summitt over-rated?!?!?!?!? AND not really having to coach with good players?!?!?!?! You're goofy.

ESPN had a ranking of the top 15 coaches of all time. John Wooden was #1, Pat #2 -- those two are so far ahead of ANYone, especially Knight. As I said before, Pat has CONTROLLED discipline, NO ego, and a fantastic teacher. When it comes to a class act, NO comparison -- Summitt.

[game225]

Coach K is just over 820 wins right now, and is looking young at the age of 60. By the end of season he will have close to 835. That means realistically he only has to coach 7 more years to reach 1,000, and your saying he cant get there. Records are meant to be broken. And yes i think its more remarkable for a mens coach to get 1000 wins than a womens, because the competition is so much better. in womens you see the same 6 to 7 teams make the final four every year. This year i could see close to 16 teams having a legit shot at going to the final four in mens basketball. And what does it matter if its controlled discipline or not?? Bob knight taught discipline,trust me, and if you cant handle the way he coaches or the way he acts grow up. I hant in today's world if someone makes some minor comment or some little mistake the media and some people blow it out of proportion. And your saying Coach K is not a class, and there is no comparison, come on. And by the way, Coach K also has a few good books of his own you might want to take a look at.

[PirateBlue]

whatever

[Bengal WhoDey]

I would rather have Knight than Summitt. I honestly don't think one could do what the other has done. Knight's style probably would not work with women, and vice-versa. I am from Marion Local, who had Jack Albers as head b-ball coach. The players really didn't mind his actions, which were similar to Knight's, and they respected the heck out of him. They understood his intensity, and his desire to make them better players and people. A lot of hate towards Knight comes from him telling you exactly what he thinks. He doesn't hold back. Some people respect him for being forthright, while others hate him for being too blunt. Summitt is a great coach, but I think I'd rather have Knight. He'd take my kid and turn him into a man.

[old_scal]

Based on a previous comment by dhsdawg and Pat Summitt nearing 1000 wins-- who would you rather have be your coach or your kid's coach. Pat Summitt or Bobby Knight? Someone else?

I'd go with Pat EVERY time. Class act. CONTROLLED Discipline something Knight always lacked. Proven winner and a TEACHER.

nothing against Pat Summit she obviously knows her *******,
but its relatively easy to see why she hasnt been hyped.

womens basketball, plain and simple, isnt as big of a cash cow as mens is. thats the easiest cut and dry way of putting it.



now as far as the best basketball coach, ill take john wooden any day over both knight and summit.

what he did at UCLA will never, ever be duplicated.

[PirateBlue]

I'll have to admit that I voted Wooden #1 and Summitt #2 on the ESPN rankings of 15 college coaches. He's the best!

[jawbreaker]

now as far as the best basketball coach, ill take john wooden any day over both knight and summit.

what he did at UCLA will never, ever be duplicated.

I agree.

Also, I am not a big fan of Summitt.

[PirateBlue]

Most men aren't a big fan of hers. She intimidates them -- scares them that a WOMAN can know so much about a MAN'S SPORT. And she is successful at it to boot!

[Bengal WhoDey]

I'll have to admit that I voted Wooden #1 and Summitt #2 on the ESPN rankings of 15 college coaches. He's the best!

Wooden won't ever be topped, although there have been reports that have come out showing that there may have been quite a bit of boosters helping the program by getting those top players.

[Bengal WhoDey]

Most men aren't a big fan of hers. She intimidates them -- scares them that a WOMAN can know so much about a MAN'S SPORT. And she is successful at it to boot!

I wouldn't say basketball is a man's sport. Sure, men are better at it, but men are better at everything.