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#41 dufus

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Posted 26 March 2018 - 06:36 PM

View PostFlightCrew, on 26 March 2018 - 06:02 PM, said:



Why do you have a problem with a kid transferring?



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Posted 26 March 2018 - 06:50 PM

Have absolutely no problem with a individual student transferring. My problem is with unethical adults recruiting students with the primary purpose of creating a really good athletic team. Mainly to feed their own selfish ego. The really good coaches create a program and develop players. Students in their own community. The losers rely on shortcuts by unethical recruiting practices. Knowing full well that OHSAA has neither the will or ability to do anything about it. Same situation as the NCAA. I pray the the FBI my somewhat clean up that sewer we know as big time college basketball. The really good coaches are praying that happens! The ones that really care about the game. Same as all the great coaches in Ohio that would love to eliminate the small minority of those that are ruining what used to be a great and honorable profession and a great game of high school basketball!

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Posted 27 March 2018 - 07:00 AM

The OHSAA membership is currently voting on a proposal that would make transfers sit out the second half of the year, including the tournament. Currently, transfers have to sit out the first half of the year. That would be an interesting change. May even stop some kids from transferring for athletics only. I know our local AD is in support of that.

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Posted 27 March 2018 - 10:37 AM

View Postdufus, on 26 March 2018 - 06:50 PM, said:

Have absolutely no problem with a individual student transferring. My problem is with unethical adults recruiting students with the primary purpose of creating a really good athletic team. Mainly to feed their own selfish ego. The really good coaches create a program and develop players. Students in their own community. The losers rely on shortcuts by unethical recruiting practices. Knowing full well that OHSAA has neither the will or ability to do anything about it. Same situation as the NCAA. I pray the the FBI my somewhat clean up that sewer we know as big time college basketball. The really good coaches are praying that happens! The ones that really care about the game. Same as all the great coaches in Ohio that would love to eliminate the small minority of those that are ruining what used to be a great and honorable profession and a great game of high school basketball!

How do you know they are being recruited? The kids can talk and line it up.

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Posted 27 March 2018 - 10:52 AM

The three kids from Marion Local dancing on the end of the bench tells you everything you need to know about why kids changing schools just for sports is a bad thing. If those kids are at Deer Park, 10 kids moved in.....and took their spots on the team (with kids they've been playing with since they were 5 years old) and those kids are watching from the bleachers....not from the floor of the Schott in what's likely going to be the biggest athletic event of their lives.

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Posted 27 March 2018 - 05:33 PM

View Postcharliesheen, on 27 March 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

The three kids from Marion Local dancing on the end of the bench tells you everything you need to know about why kids changing schools just for sports is a bad thing. If those kids are at Deer Park, 10 kids moved in.....and took their spots on the team (with kids they've been playing with since they were 5 years old) and those kids are watching from the bleachers....not from the floor of the Schott in what's likely going to be the biggest athletic event of their lives.
I don't know that that is the case with Deer Park at all. They were HORRIBLE for a long time.

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Posted 27 March 2018 - 05:37 PM

View PostFlightCrew, on 27 March 2018 - 05:33 PM, said:

I don't know that that is the case with Deer Park at all. They were HORRIBLE for a long time.

Uh, they obviously have had a team before....and they have 10 transfers.....so yes, some kids other than the 3 remaining from before the transfers showed up had to lose their spots. There are kids that are FROM THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT....who can't play on their hometown team because it's full of transfers. Horrible or not it's still THEIR team. There are some small towns in NW Ohio that have been horrible for a long time....but I'm pretty sure they still have kids that want to play basketball and wouldn't be thrilled to have 10 kids just show up and take their spots their roster spots their junior year

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Posted 27 March 2018 - 06:29 PM

View Postcharliesheen, on 27 March 2018 - 05:37 PM, said:

Uh, they obviously have had a team before....and they have 10 transfers.....so yes, some kids other than the 3 remaining from before the transfers showed up had to lose their spots. There are kids that are FROM THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT....who can't play on their hometown team because it's full of transfers. Horrible or not it's still THEIR team. There are some small towns in NW Ohio that have been horrible for a long time....but I'm pretty sure they still have kids that want to play basketball and wouldn't be thrilled to have 10 kids just show up and take their spots their roster spots their junior year

I thought it was 7, but still, I get your point to a degree. I'm just saying that this is a radical outlier and doesn't happen often.
So, how would you feel about those original Deer Park kids transferring out? If you are of the opinion they've been screwed over, are you of the opinion that if they transfer they have to sit out the 2nd half of the season plus tournament?

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 02:36 PM

The transferring thing seems to be more of a big city problem, you don't tend to see this happen in the smaller schools. And generally, when a kid transfers or open enrolls at the smaller school level, it's due to the kid either not getting along with the coach from the old school, or they are an attitude problem. The other thing you see is that kids from bigger schools transfer to small schools so they can play on their sports teams. They have no shot at playing on the bigger schools high school team, so they go to a smaller county school.

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Posted 10 April 2018 - 08:57 PM

View PostCommon Sense, on 09 April 2018 - 02:36 PM, said:

The transferring thing seems to be more of a big city problem, you don't tend to see this happen in the smaller schools. And generally, when a kid transfers or open enrolls at the smaller school level, it's due to the kid either not getting along with the coach from the old school, or they are an attitude problem. The other thing you see is that kids from bigger schools transfer to small schools so they can play on their sports teams. They have no shot at playing on the bigger schools high school team, so they go to a smaller county school.

I sense some animosity from you ......







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