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[pantherfan80]

Brewer can coach the girls team YEAH for him ok he has NO IDEA about boys. The basketball program in Paulding in on a down hill spiral. The girls team suks they look like a bunch of grade school girls on the court. The varsity team looks like they don't know what they are doing>> but yet the coaches have great matching shirts on. LOL WHAT A JOKE for a coaching stafff.

[dhsdawg06]

2008-09(last year under Schroder): 6-16, sectional final loss
2009-10(first year under Brewer, junior year for the "dream class"): 10-12, sectional final loss
2010-11: 17-6, district final loss
2011-12: 10-11, sectional loss (rebuilding year)
2012-13: 14-5



OMG WATCH OUT FOR THE DOWNWARD SPIRAL!

I understand Paulding has had more talent the last 4 seasons than they had in a long time, but I still fail to see where this idea that they're somehow not playing up to or past expectations comes from. The program is better than it has been in a long time and somewhere you have to give the coach at least a LITTLE bit of credit for that.........

[caldwell]

dhsdawg06, on 12 February 2013 - 02:10 AM, said:

2008-09(last year under Schroder): 6-16, sectional final loss
2009-10(first year under Brewer, junior year for the "dream class"): 10-12, sectional final loss
2010-11: 17-6, district final loss
2011-12: 10-11, sectional loss (rebuilding year)
2012-13: 14-5



OMG WATCH OUT FOR THE DOWNWARD SPIRAL!

I understand Paulding has had more talent the last 4 seasons than they had in a long time, but I still fail to see where this idea that they're somehow not playing up to or past expectations comes from. The program is better than it has been in a long time and somewhere you have to give the coach at least a LITTLE bit of credit for that.........

Yea, but when your expectation for this season are 20-2. Thing are on a downward spiral. Best team that I've seen out of Paulding in years. (positive) Districts might be a possibility this year?

[PHSfan_1023]

Please, nobody pay any attention to pantherfan80. I know that everyone's seen how Paulding's handled success, but he doesn't represent the mindset of people in the community. He was complaining about Brewer 2 years ago when they went 17-6 I have no problem with how the season's going. Sure I'd like to see them run a little more because they have a lot of athleticism, but I have zero experience coaching, thus I'm not questioning it right now. Some people either can't let personal vendettas out of the way or just have bad personal attitudes.

[KahneFan]

PHSfan_1023, on 12 February 2013 - 11:09 AM, said:

Please, nobody pay any attention to pantherfan80. .

Dont worry-we dont!!

[pantherfan80]

So are saying Brewer started the "Dream Team" No he just got them handed to him on a platter. Just Like the varsity this year, he got them handed to him on a platter and doesn't know how to coach them either. If you don't believe me just ask him! ! ! Ignore me all you want but Paulding will have nothing to brag about for a LONG Time..... I will read it in the paper because I won't be at anymore games to support "THE PROGRAM "

[harrydirty]

I have been a big fan of Brewer taking over the program from day 1. That doesn't mean that I have to blindly refuse to consider any arguments.

Since Brewer has taken over, the gymnasium has never been more electric. Win or lose ( and they usually win ), they play great basketball. I mean his teams really get after it and they are fun to watch. The kids really play like a team. They support each other and I see no apparent selfishness. These things also make his teams fun to watch.

There are those people, who support a politician, team, coach, player and they refuse to consider anything against whom they support. I am just NOT one of those people. I do like to be open minded and consider all factors, but that does not mean I cease to support or believe in them.

So when opponents of Brewer point to the notion that the wins are a result of the down schedule and the "dream team" as reason for the turn around in the program, rather than Brewer, I will listen to what is being said. Especially if they've played the game.

I'm not saying I buy that completely, but when looking at the schedule, it is difficult to argue the part about the schedule.

The arguments I hear typically refer to the weak schedule and Brewers "timely" decision to take over the program.

To be honest I cannot refute the schedule part:
Continental, Antwerp, Wayne Trace (now recovered but also beat us ), Parkway, Fairview, Ayersville, Delphos Jefferson, Ottoville, Hicksville, Ada

They all were traditionally very good to very very very good programs and they are really bad to really really really bad teams right now.
( DJ was never great, but I don't remember them being this bad either )

That list does not include the traditional bad programs that are on there: Montpelier, Allen East, Liberty Center

That is 12 - really really really aweful teams on the schedule. ( it was 13, but WT is now recovered )

Having said all that, I do also argue this. None of this is Brewers fault and its not fair to take anything away from him just because the schedule has been weak. He can only control how good his team is.

All I am saying is that, the weak schedule and having 1 sectional title gives me reservations at this point. As I said in another post - get out of this sectional and I'll be impressed.

Although, I do consider the stuff about his "timely decision to take the job", it does not affect things for me too much. He should not have to apologize for that. There's a reason that a coach would rather be a head coach for the Patriots than be a head coach for the Browns. There is a reason we all decide on 1 job and not the other and VERY often it is about the "perks". "The Dream Team" was a "perk" and he should not apologize for that.

and oh by the way - "The Dream Team" is not the best team to go through Paulding. There were several teams from the distant past that were better. Even in the recent past ( Creamer's group would have handled them)

[whatdoiknow]

All I can say is thank god Paulding is not my hometown.

[caldwell]

whatdoiknow, on 16 February 2013 - 08:12 AM, said:

All I can say is thank god Paulding is not my hometown.

Yea, and they even won last night?

[KahneFan]

pantherfan80, on 16 February 2013 - 12:54 AM, said:

So are saying Brewer started the "Dream Team" No he just got them handed to him on a platter. Just Like the varsity this year, he got them handed to him on a platter and doesn't know how to coach them either. If you don't believe me just ask him! ! ! Ignore me all you want but Paulding will have nothing to brag about for a LONG Time..... I will read it in the paper because I won't be at anymore games to support "THE PROGRAM "

Good its such a sad loss that U wont be around........

[dhsdawg06]

harrydirty- I'm not quoting that entire post but well said. The schedule is absolutely not as tough as it once was and the talent level is better than it was for a while. These are valid arguments against Brewer.

I just think at the end of the day, you don't try to run a coach that is winning out of town, because who knows if the next guy can do as well. His teams play hard, they play unselfishly, they can play different styles, and they win more than they lose. Sounds like a quality program right now to me. If 5 years down the road the talent dries up again and it becomes apparent he just can't coach, THEN you start looking around for a replacement.


Now I admit, I'm not from Paulding and I only watch them play a couple times a year. But I've been impressed by what I've seen every time I've watched them the last 4 years, except against Ayersville last season. But really, that was one bad game and those happen. It's just, from an outsider's perspective, the fans ready to run him out of town look like idiots. Thankfully I know enough people(quite a bit of which are family) in Paulding to know they're just simply the vocal minority.

[harrydirty]

I don't know anyone who thinks he should be fired or run out of town. There are probably a few, but I try not to associate with ignorant people, which is why I probably haven't heard that being said.

Almost all of what I hear and say about Brewer is positive. There is some commentary out there, from some whose opinions I do respect, that refers to the weak schedule and his "timely" decision making when it comes to taking a coaching job. The entire point of my post is that I find those things to be interesting, but at the same time do not fault the coach for those things.

A better way to put it is,
I am impressed with Brewer and I express this opinion often. The 12 or 13 bad teams on the schedule cause me to measure the extent to which I am impressed. That's all.

I actually applaud him for his "timely" decision's on when to take coaching jobs. I don't call that being a "coward", I call that being smart.

Edited by harrydirty, 17 February 2013 - 06:59 PM.

[daaa browns]

Like I said earlier in this topic...Brewer doesn't deserve Paulding's fanbase..they have no respect..well...a majority doesn't...harrydirty is apparently the only one left these days...