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[slice slice baby]

Thoughts??

[lepiota]

I think its even less of a big deal that he bet as a player, (If he never bet against his own team) because he would have less control of the games than if he was a manager. Now, if he ever bet against a team he was playing on then he should obviously be banned for life.

[caldwell]

No sympathy, he knew the rules. Pay the piper!!!

[fortfan]

I don't get all the Pete Rose love. Not being a Reds fn will do that, I guess.

Lots of things could have been going on that just reinforces my d-bag opinion of him.

[lepiota]

fortfan, on 25 June 2015 - 11:28 AM, said:

I don't get all the Pete Rose love. Not being a Reds fn will do that, I guess.

Lots of things could have been going on that just reinforces my d-bag opinion of him.

Yeah, he does seem to make a poor example for a celebrity. He's kind of in the same catagory as guys like William Shatner, Steven Segal and Ty Cobb, yet not as bad as O J, on Aaron Hernandez lol

[Week 10 All-American]

Huge Reds fan but I've had enough of the circus and shenanigans surrounding Peter Edward Rose.

[Mo-Problems]

"I never bet on baseball"
Story comes out proving he bet on baseball


"I never bet on the Reds"
Story comes out showing he bet on the Reds.

"I never bet on them as a player"
Story comes out showing he bet on the Reds as a player.

"I never bet on them to lose"
How is anyone supposed to believe this?

Sorry Pete. Your goose is cooked. Sad. If he would have came out with the truth 25 years ago, maybe people would be more willing to forgive him by now.

[Bluetiger76]

I think the biggest thing I remember about Pete's dark side is when he said, "My biggest mistake was that I didn't come forward sooner and admit I bet on baseball".

No Pete!!!! Your biggest mistake was that you "bet" on baseball, period!

[FlightCrew]

lepiota, on 25 June 2015 - 06:42 AM, said:

I think its even less of a big deal that he bet as a player, (If he never bet against his own team) because he would have less control of the games than if he was a manager. Now, if he ever bet against a team he was playing on then he should obviously be banned for life.

I hear this from a lot of people..."well, he never bet on the Reds to lose"....
If he consistently betted on them to win, but did not place bets on certain gamedays, one could assume he had little confidence they would win that particular game.

The bookies follow the betting patterns and this allows outside influences to effect the integrity of the game.

[TiGgEr3]

Got to talk to and hang out with him at the all star game, I'm a big fan of the guy now.....he was super nice and great to everyone.

[flounder]

Peter Rose reminds me a bit of Hilary Clinton.....one lie just leads to another bigger lie.......boy....some comparison, huh...lmao!!!!!

[Bluetiger76]

TiGgEr3, on 27 August 2015 - 10:46 PM, said:

he was super nice and great to everyone.

The "definition" of a con man.

[General Tso]

If you think Pete was bad just remember we still have the National Fixed League.

[dhsdawg06]

Don't know where to start on this jackhole.

He bet on the game. The penalty for that is a lifetime banishment, and he accepted that. He's still alive, so already right there that means he's still out.

Moving past that.

"He never bet as a player and only bet on the Reds to win."

1 The only words that matter is "bet on the Reds." He broke the rules plain and simple. 2 If you're naive enough to think he honestly never bet as a player, then I don't know what to tell you. I highly doubt after retiring he all of a sudden decided "hey, know what would be fun? Betting on baseball!" 3 As someone mentioned before, he didn't even bet everyday. As the manager of the team, that brings out a REALLY gray area. What days didn't he bet? Was it the day he had his 5th starter going? Did he rest 3 of his starters and decide his best reliever wasn't going that day? To me NOT placing a bet on those days was the EXACT same as betting that they'd lose. There's no way he was throwing his top team out there on those days knowing he'd have money on the next day. Not saying he managed to lose, but every team has those days where you rest guys and just hope to win. That's what those days were.

"At least he never did PEDs!"

I personally argue that betting on the game is WORSE than PEDs, because at least the PEDs guys were actively TRYING to better themselves and help the team win. But both are cheating and unethical so I won't go there. The bigger issue is, does anyone take the time to realize that his bookie/one time roommate was a KNOWN PED dealer? Pete played well into his 40s in order to break the record, in the time that steroids became a big thing. Put 2 and 2 together....while it can't and never will be proven, it looks AWFULLY likely that he was on roids at the tail end of his career. That would make him DOUBLE the piece of trash.

"But he's truly sorry."

I bet serial killers are too once they're caught. Doesn't make the punishment any lighter. Besides, if Pete were TRULY sorry, he'd quit showing up in Cooperstown every year during the HOF induction ceremony signing autographs. He'd quit signing in Vegas casinos. He'd quit with the autobiographies that magically seem to show up every time he wants to talk to the commish about reinstatement. He's not sorry, he's milking this for every dollar and every minute of attention he can.


I'm a person who generally believes in giving people 2nd chances, but screw Pete Rose. He was obviously a great player and his accomplishments belong in the Hall of Fame....but much like Shoeless Joe before him(who has a MUCH better case for reinstatement), he did the crime and now he's left out. And it's 100% his fault.

Edited by dhsdawg06, 16 October 2015 - 11:54 PM.