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Aaron Craft vs. Trey Burke

OSU vs. TSUN point guards

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#1 Maltese Falcon

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 07:50 PM

Now they we have a good sample siz ofe last season's Ohio Mr. Basketball Trey Burke as a frosh at UM,
Who’s better?

I am not sure. Aaron is a great pg. for the system in place @ OSU, but I still think this is
a push. Aaron is an elite defender, but Trey is no slouch on the defensive end of
the court either, with Trey being a better shooter, a better finisher and scorer. I
hope I’m wrong, but I think Trey is just as good. He will play in the NBA for a
long time; Craft will be a LEGEND in the Worthington Summer league until he’s 50.
Trey may even be a poor man’s Chris Paul, he’s that good. Keep in mind, he’s from
COLUMBUS, not michigan.

BTW I am an OSU fan, but this is my opinion. Please weigh in with your take backed up with reasoning.


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Posted 19 January 2012 - 08:27 AM

And Trey actually gets defended.......
And doesn't have anywhere near the pieces around him #4 has.
I do disagree on Burke ever making the NBA, but he is playing much better than I anticipated he would at Michigan.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 05:13 PM

This will be good....... :popcorn:

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 10:54 PM

It'd be nice to see them go head to head but my guess is Matta will put #4 on Novacs when OSU plays UM

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 01:03 PM

Trey vs Aaron the numbers

minutes p/g = 34.7 vs 29.7
points p/g = 14.6 vs 8.1
% total = .446 vs .446
% 3pt = .352 vs .280
% ft = .883 vs. 667
points per 40 mins = 16.9 vs 10.9

assist p/g = 4.8 vs 5.3
assist p/40 = 5.6 vs 7.1
ast/to = 1.88 vs 2.56
steals p/g = 0.79 vs 2.53
steals p/40 = 0.92 vs 3.40
st/to = 0.31 vs 1.23
turnover p/g = 2.53 vs 2.05

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 08:42 PM

View PostVictorian, on 19 January 2012 - 08:27 AM, said:

And Trey actually gets defended.......
And doesn't have anywhere near the pieces around him #4 has.
I do disagree on Burke ever making the NBA, but he is playing much better than I anticipated he would at Michigan.

Defended? I don't see teams exactly laying off Craft. Pieces around him? He makes those pieces better.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 11:44 PM

View Postcubbies4life, on 20 January 2012 - 08:42 PM, said:

Defended? I don't see teams exactly laying off Craft. Pieces around him? He makes those pieces better.

That why they lost to Kansas and IU? It starts and ends with Sullinger.

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 12:08 AM

No one has ever said Craft is the best player on the team. He does however run the Buckeyes' squad effectively. Probably more effectively than anyone else could. It's a shame that defensive intensity, hustle and intangibles aren't measured by a stat because that's all that matters to certain people. It's plain as day though, if Craft gets into foul trouble watch how stagnant the Buckeye offense becomes because he is such a good point guard.

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 09:55 AM

and if you take Craft away they lose to ........................why don't you answer this Vic, since you know all

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 11:23 AM

View Postreddevils, on 21 January 2012 - 09:55 AM, said:

and if you take Craft away they lose to ........................why don't you answer this Vic, since you know all

Don't waste your time. He was totally off on Aaron and won't admit it. AC is the heart and soul of the team.

The games they lost is the result of the most over rated college player. William Buford!! Down 2 at IU and throws up a force 3 pointer. He is shooting 43.4% from the field. Not very good for a supposely NBA 1st round draft choice.

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 11:54 AM

View Postreddevils, on 21 January 2012 - 09:55 AM, said:

and if you take Craft away they lose to ........................why don't you answer this Vic, since you know all

Possibly Florida and S Carolina.

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 11:55 AM

View Postcubbies4life, on 21 January 2012 - 11:23 AM, said:

Don't waste your time. He was totally off on Aaron and won't admit it. AC is the heart and soul of the team.

The games they lost is the result of the most over rated college player. William Buford!! Down 2 at IU and throws up a force 3 pointer. He is shooting 43.4% from the field. Not very good for a supposely NBA 1st round draft choice.
I agree on WB. Matta does a HORRIBLE job developing players.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 01:36 PM

Keeps things up to date:

http://statsheet.com...&p1=aaron-craft

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 06:21 PM

Sand....that is really cool link......I am enjoying comparing other players besides the 2 talked about here...thanks!

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 10:03 AM

In 3 hrs will see this match up between these 2 very good Bball players.......should be a good game...Go Bucks!

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 10:42 PM

Pretty much settled today.....Matta should have offered Burke.....

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 11:48 AM

View PostVictorian, on 29 January 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Pretty much settled today.....Matta should have offered Burke.....

Scott played 4 minutes. Not much to compare to. He did get 2 steals in the 4 minutes and no turnovers.

Yea, Matta wanted those 5 turnovers.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 06:10 PM

View PostVictorian, on 19 January 2012 - 10:54 PM, said:

It'd be nice to see them go head to head but my guess is Matta will put #4 on Novacs when OSU plays UM

View PostVictorian, on 29 January 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Pretty much settled today.....Matta should have offered Burke.....

Well they went head to head with Trey ending up 5/11 shooting.....Aaron weighed in with 3/4 shooting. Granted Burke had 13 points but I will take a 75% shooting night anyday over sub 50%
Trey is a very good player and a good fit for Michigasn right now. Thing is, IF he would be at OSU this year, he may have filled Scotts role, but not Crafts

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 09:09 PM

And defensive wise, Craft is much better. If there is a better point guard who is better defensively in college basketball, let me know who that is. I have yet seen a better one.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 10:47 PM

Defensive intensity accounts for nothing to a lot of people. It's all about the final numbers to them. Granted almost 99% of the time Craft guards these studs they don't look nearly as good as they do against anyone else on their schedule. Case in point Brandon Knight and Jordan Taylor's game in Columbus.

Craft impacts the game as much defensively as most elite scorers do offensively. He may not always end up with the steal but he causes turnovers at a ridiculous rate or simply doesn't allow an opposing guard to dribble where he wants to.

Edited by ImAnEagle15, 30 January 2012 - 10:53 PM.








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