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[polkhigh33]

Back to the drawing board for the minions at OHSAA

[polkhigh33]

Dan Ross has issued a statement that he belives a referendum to go on the ballot next May to separate tournaments....I would expect the OHSAA to lose all private schools should that happen.

[oberhaus]

Great news.

[fiver]

polkhigh33, on 16 May 2012 - 02:09 PM, said:

Dan Ross has issued a statement that he belives a referendum to go on the ballot next May to separate tournaments....I would expect the OHSAA to lose all private schools should that happen.

Honestly, that's the dumbest thing ever to be done if it goes through, Private Schools in my opinion, don't have an advantage over Public Schools, this year in the OHSAA in football, 4 of the 6 champions were Public schools, and 9 of the 12 schools playing that weekend were public schools.

[Bengal WhoDey]

Who says some public schools don't leave?
If these private schools leave, how long until competitve balance passes. There are always going to be some losers, and if the OHSAA keeps raising prices, why not leave? Let the losers have their own little worthless tournament.

[Dflyers]

polkhigh33, on 16 May 2012 - 02:09 PM, said:

Dan Ross has issued a statement that he belives a referendum to go on the ballot next May to separate tournaments....I would expect the OHSAA to lose all private schools should that happen.

And where would they go?

[Bruno]

Dan Ross needs to be relieved of his duties.

[oberhaus]

Bruno, on 16 May 2012 - 07:20 PM, said:

Dan Ross needs to be relieved of his duties.

This

[Bobby]

Bruno, on 16 May 2012 - 07:20 PM, said:

Dan Ross needs to be relieved of his duties.

Why?

He's trying to facilitate the membership, many of whom clamored for something to be done. He's not making this stuff up. And the proposal came from a committee of public and private school personnel.

Wayne County folks are working to get a proposal on the May 2013 ballot for separate tournaments. If tournaments are separated, the privates may as well form their own association. Why stay in an association that treats you like a second class citizen?

[falconfan84]

fiver, on 16 May 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

Honestly, that's the dumbest thing ever to be done if it goes through, Private Schools in my opinion, don't have an advantage over Public Schools, this year in the OHSAA in football, 4 of the 6 champions were Public schools, and 9 of the 12 schools playing that weekend were public schools.

So what you are saying is that 2 of the 6 champions were Private schools and 3 of the 12 schools playing were privates...

Is this within the ratio of public to private within the state of Ohio? I'd guess probably not. If privates make up 1/3 of all schools in the state, then it would be par for the course to have 1/3 of the championships by private schools. Private schools are historically better represented at the state level than public schools...and it's getting worse as the years go by.

Just sayin'....

Edited by falconfan84, 16 May 2012 - 09:43 PM.

[Spartan87]

polkhigh33, on 16 May 2012 - 02:09 PM, said:

Dan Ross has issued a statement that he belives a referendum to go on the ballot next May to separate tournaments....I would expect the OHSAA to lose all private schools should that happen.

You are 100 percent correct. There would be no reason for the private schools to stay in the OHSAA. Will ruin all post season tournaments as we know them.

[Rocketman]

I will be posting an op-ed piece to the site later today........

if you listened to WIMA1150 this morning they talked about separate tournaments......if that happens, bye bye Hawaiian vacations!

[PHDigger]

Some of these people are just bound and determined to ruin hs sports in this state. I also don't think this is Dr Ross's fault. He's just getting pressured by these freaks. Can we just somehow ask for Wayne County to be annexed into Pennsylvania? There's enough Aimish out there that Penn would probably take them.

[gamekeeper]

PHDigger, on 17 May 2012 - 09:27 AM, said:

Some of these people are just bound and determined to ruin hs sports in this state. I also don't think this is Dr Ross's fault. He's just getting pressured by these freaks. Can we just somehow ask for Wayne County to be annexed into Pennsylvania? There's enough Aimish out there that Penn would probably take them.

Can't the Penn amish were beating them in everything so they moved here to Ohio. They went to a few soccer games and saw all the parents making tunnels for the teams after the games and said what a wonderful place to be.....

[Badlands]

Seperate tournaments would be a joke, and take away the true meaning of a State Championship.

[Bobby]

falconfan84, on 16 May 2012 - 09:41 PM, said:

So what you are saying is that 2 of the 6 champions were Private schools and 3 of the 12 schools playing were privates...

Is this within the ratio of public to private within the state of Ohio? I'd guess probably not. If privates make up 1/3 of all schools in the state, then it would be par for the course to have 1/3 of the championships by private schools. Private schools are historically better represented at the state level than public schools...and it's getting worse as the years go by.

Just sayin'....

What is an acceptable percentage of private school state champs? I've read that private schools make up 17% of all Ohio schools. So should we only be permitted to win 17% of state titles? The ten schools in the MAC make up roughly 1.4% of the 720 football playing schools in Ohio yet we win way more than 1.4% of state titles. Is that acceptable? Does the MAC need a competitive balance proposal just for us?

[Mr Bearcat]

The biggest thing in my opinion is the boundary issue. Private schools have no boundary in enrolling students. Public schools May have Open Enrollment, but they have an actual boundary from where a majority of students come from.

[paynepanthers]

I really think this all going in the wrong direction. I think the OHSAA should drop back to 4 divisions in football and no more than 2 divisions in all other sports including basketball. I don't feel there should be a separation of publics and privates and I don't really care about any revenue hit the OHSAA would take because there would also be cost savings.

[Whiterabbit]

Mr Bearcat, on 17 May 2012 - 10:04 PM, said:

The biggest thing in my opinion is the boundary issue. Private schools have no boundary in enrolling students. Public schools May have Open Enrollment, but they have an actual boundary from where a majority of students come from.

I agree, level the playing field with boundary and I think the problem is not completely fixed but you are close to a solution.

[maddog]

falconfan84, on 16 May 2012 - 09:41 PM, said:

So what you are saying is that 2 of the 6 champions were Private schools and 3 of the 12 schools playing were privates...

Is this within the ratio of public to private within the state of Ohio? I'd guess probably not. If privates make up 1/3 of all schools in the state, then it would be par for the course to have 1/3 of the championships by private schools. Private schools are historically better represented at the state level than public schools...and it's getting worse as the years go by.

Just sayin'....

Guess you are not a gymnastics fan. I for one am tired of watching Brecksville (public school) dominate the state each year. I think we should demand reform so that all the other young ladies in the state can have an equal chance of winning since for the last 6 years or more they have not. A travesty is being permitted here and must end. Where is Mr. Ross on this issue?