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[jeffcat-bucki]

lima ball, on 24 June 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

A note on LCC in the mid to late 90's, the teams were around .500 (5-5, 4-6, 6-4 with at least one 8-2 season) from 2000-2004 LCC had some not to pretty years, but I still think they were 3-7 or 4-6 so I wouldn't say they were horrible, just ran into some very good teams (St Henry, Coldwater). Many of those .500 seasons would get you to 3rd or 4th in the NWC.

Finally, LCC will be pretty good over the next decade with "home grown" talent!!!

Not likely. LCC was struggling with Ft. Recovery during those early 2000s years and Ft. Recovery would have finished no better than 2nd or 3rd last in the NWC at that time. The 90s weren't AS bad, but certainly not great either.

I will give them some credit as they did usually have to play a tough schedule annually by playing some of the best in the MAC and NWC, but would manage to pull 3-4 really easy games every year too. At that time, they played Elida(who was also terrible) annually and then filled in with the worst of the worst from the MAC or NWC to pick up wins.

[jeffcat-bucki]

Rd2Glory, on 23 June 2012 - 03:22 PM, said:

Stop lying lol. You're not convincing anyone that there was ever less than 2 dozen people at any football game. I know 10 years ago I was at every LCC game and that was never the case. The crowds are bigger on a week to week basis now, which is a result of winning and people wanting to watch games where we're not getting lit up every week - that will happen anywhere from Jefferson games to Indianapolis Colts games.

Well, the reality of the matter convinced myself, so if you had been there during that game, you would have known. I think you know it's not a lie too, because the only game that anybody cared about was Elida....Minus the small band...who else watched them play a poor matchup against Ft. Recovery or get drubbed 70-0 by Coldwater or St. Henry? Back then, the LCC alum I know would readily acknowledge they didn't go to the football games and didn't have any desire too unless it was Elida. Now, it's all talk about how loyal the fanbase is and how that could have never been the case back then. The reality of it as an outside observer speaks otherwise.

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jeffcat-bucki, on 25 June 2012 - 11:07 AM, said:

Well, the reality of the matter convinced myself, so if you had been there during that game, you would have known. I think you know it's not a lie too, because the only game that anybody cared about was Elida....Minus the small band...who else watched them play a poor matchup against Ft. Recovery or get drubbed 70-0 by Coldwater or St. Henry? Back then, the LCC alum I know would readily acknowledge they didn't go to the football games and didn't have any desire too unless it was Elida. Now, it's all talk about how loyal the fanbase is and how that could have never been the case back then. The reality of it as an outside observer speaks otherwise.

Any friends you may have had probably wouldn't be interested in sports anyway.

I'm convinced you probably didn't / dont have any friends.

[osufan512]

While the football following may not have been the best at all points in time over the past 56 seasons, you missed my point a little. Never did I say that the "football following" was great and always has been. I did however make mention that the school has a solid community that supports it as evidence of its 56 year existence and even with a decreasing enrollment trend. It doesn't take a mathematician to figure out that as the school loses students it loses money that was flowing into the building. This deficit can only be made up in one of two ways really: 1. Increase tuition, or 2. Receive more donations. They have had to increase tuition over the years, obviously, but I doubt the raise in tuition has offset the gap in revenue that was coming in say 15+ years ago. This in turn calls for more donations that are needed to keep the school afloat. I guess my point is, when your entire operating budget comes from what little $$ the diocese can come up with, tuition, and private donations/fundraisers you're naturally going to have a support system built in. This support will help the football program get through these transition times and I personally don't the the team will miss a beat on a competitive level. Travel times may be unfortunate but the strength of schedule MAY increase over time and may better prepare the T-Birds to avoid things like what happened this year with the 10-and-done record.

But... MOVING ON, this is an NWC thread. We are almost to July 1st, let's get the football talk started and enough of this politics/who supports who nonsense.

[jeffcat-bucki]

osufan512, on 26 June 2012 - 06:05 AM, said:

While the football following may not have been the best at all points in time over the past 56 seasons, you missed my point a little. Never did I say that the "football following" was great and always has been. I did however make mention that the school has a solid community that supports it as evidence of its 56 year existence and even with a decreasing enrollment trend. It doesn't take a mathematician to figure out that as the school loses students it loses money that was flowing into the building. This deficit can only be made up in one of two ways really: 1. Increase tuition, or 2. Receive more donations. They have had to increase tuition over the years, obviously, but I doubt the raise in tuition has offset the gap in revenue that was coming in say 15+ years ago. This in turn calls for more donations that are needed to keep the school afloat. I guess my point is, when your entire operating budget comes from what little $$ the diocese can come up with, tuition, and private donations/fundraisers you're naturally going to have a support system built in. This support will help the football program get through these transition times and I personally don't the the team will miss a beat on a competitive level. Travel times may be unfortunate but the strength of schedule MAY increase over time and may better prepare the T-Birds to avoid things like what happened this year with the 10-and-done record. But... MOVING ON, this is an NWC thread. We are almost to July 1st, let's get the football talk started and enough of this politics/who supports who nonsense.

I'll agree with most of that, although LCC really ran itself into an enormous financial hole with all their "projects" they have started and/or since completed between the schools wings, basketball gym, weight room, etc. They do raise plenty of funds from random events here and there, K of C deals, Italian festivals, mulch sales, etc and I even helped with a few of them, so I'm aware there. I was merely speaking on just the football reference, more so than anything. I agree with the rest.

[Badlands]

Ok Is it me or am Im good

Edited by Badlands, 31 October 2014 - 09:52 PM.

[Badlands]

look on page 1 someone said Grove will finish in the top three of the conference.

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Badlands, on 31 October 2014 - 09:51 PM, said:

Ok Is it me or am Im good

Badlands, on 31 October 2014 - 10:08 PM, said:

look on page 1 someone said Grove will finish in the top three of the conference.

Glad to see all's right in the world as I was very worried after not hearing from you here last week immediately following the win against the Knights.

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but,,,,,this thread is from 2012