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[roarintiger1]

Arlington

North Baltimore

McComb

Van Buren

Liberty Benton

Pandora Gilboa

[bob22]

Arlington - Devils limping to the finsh

North Baltimore - If Tigers want a shot at week 11 they can't lay anymore eggs

McComb - 2015 is the year of the Panther

Van Buren - Not sure who has been more underwhelming this season so just go with the home team

L-B - umm yeah

P-G - Wildcat conference losing streak goes to 22.

[evilscotsman]

Arlington
North Baltimore
McComb
Van Buren
Liberty-Benton
Pandora-Gilboa

[Hound Dog]

Arlington
North Baltimore
McComb
Leipsic
Liberty-Benton
Pandora-Gilboa

[TiGgEr3]

Arlington

North Baltimore

McComb

Leipsic

Liberty-Benton

Pandora-Gilboa

[Bluetiger76]

Bluetiger76, on 08 October 2015 - 04:04 AM, said:

Liberty-Benton - I havent felt good about LB going into any game this year, til this one.

I obviously should have worried about this one too.

[Corleone]

Bluetiger76, on 09 October 2015 - 07:24 PM, said:

I obviously should have worried about this one too.

No gimmes this year, my man.

[Bluetiger76]

Corleone, on 09 October 2015 - 07:49 PM, said:

No gimmes this year, my man.

Aint that the truth!

[Underdog]

Upset in NB tonight. Congratulations Hornets

[falconfan84]

Bluetiger76, on 09 October 2015 - 07:24 PM, said:

I obviously should have worried about this one too.

Didn't go the game. Heard Riverdale had the lead for a while. Did L-B play their starters? I wouldn't put it past them to play the bench against us, since they routinely pull that prank during track season...saving their better runners for the "important" meets.

[playmaker]

falconfan84, on 09 October 2015 - 09:51 PM, said:

..saving their better runners for the "important" meets.

Really getting salty about a team treating a certain meet as a JV meet? or are we against letting the younger kids ever compete?

[playmaker]

And it appeared that LB had all of their starters playing tonight. Just played to the level of the opponent.

[falconfan84]

playmaker, on 09 October 2015 - 09:59 PM, said:

Really getting salty about a team treating a certain meet as a JV meet? or are we against letting the younger kids ever compete?

At dual track meets EVERYBODY can compete. I don't have a problem with letting the younger/not-as-good runners run. It can seem as an insult, though, when a team (such as Liberty-Benton) only has their "JV's" run in a meet where you'd actually like to have some competition to run against. I spoke with a guy at work about this, and he said that the coach figures out what it will take to win the meet and then lets the lesser experienced kids run in most of the events. This past year, the dual meet @ L-B was not even close, with us winning nearly every running event. It really makes for a boring meet, when it could have been a great chance for our kids to run against what is usually quality competition. L-B does this in track quite often. I was wondering (since there were so many remarks about Riverdale being "just bad" lately) if they didn't also try this for this football game...that's all.

Edited by falconfan84, 09 October 2015 - 10:12 PM.

[Corleone]

falconfan84, on 09 October 2015 - 10:11 PM, said:

At dual track meets EVERYBODY can compete. I don't have a problem with letting the younger/not-as-good runners run. It can seem as an insult, though, when a team (such as Liberty-Benton) only has their "JV's" run in a meet where you'd actually like to have some competition to run against. I spoke with a guy at work about this, and he said that the coach figures out what it will take to win the meet and then lets the lesser experienced kids run in most of the events. This past year, the dual meet @ L-B was not even close, with us winning nearly every running event. It really makes for a boring meet, when it could have been a great chance for our kids to run against what is usually quality competition. L-B does this in track quite often. I was wondering (since there were so many remarks about Riverdale being "just bad" lately) if they didn't also try this for this football game...that's all.

All right, I'll take the bait...

Having two sons go through the track program, I am well aware of the strategy the coaching staffs (girls and boys) employ when it comes to deciding how to deploy their athletes. For one thing, the practices are tough, a lot tougher than running in a scheduled, during-the-week meet. And the whole goal is to have everyone peaking by the time the BVC meet rolls around so everyone is ready for Districts. Given the results, I don't know how you can argue with it. Jack Quisno and the late Pat Wagner are both going to be Hall of Famers and have multiple titles to their credit. The meets that are scheduled during the week do give the kids that will not be competing on the weekends an opportunity to prove themselves, get better, and earn a varsity letter. Not a bad way to do it IMO. Taking your feelings into account is probably not at the top of the coaches list of priorities...just sayin .

And no, that is not how the football team is run. When have a one chance a week to play, and only 10 weeks to do it, you are not holding anyone out of anything. The bottom line is this team needs to improve a lot in order to beat McComb, much less Van Buren.

[HH75]

Corleone, on 10 October 2015 - 09:42 AM, said:

All right, I'll take the bait...

Having two sons go through the track program, I am well aware of the strategy the coaching staffs (girls and boys) employ when it comes to deciding how to deploy their athletes. For one thing, the practices are tough, a lot tougher than running in a scheduled, during-the-week meet. And the whole goal is to have everyone peaking by the time the BVC meet rolls around so everyone is ready for Districts. Given the results, I don't know how you can argue with it. Jack Quisno and the late Pat Wagner are both going to be Hall of Famers and have multiple titles to their credit. The meets that are scheduled during the week do give the kids that will not be competing on the weekends an opportunity to prove themselves, get better, and earn a varsity letter. Not a bad way to do it IMO. Taking your feelings into account is probably not at the top of the coaches list of priorities...just sayin .

And no, that is not how the football team is run. When have a one chance a week to play, and only 10 weeks to do it, you are not holding anyone out of anything. The bottom line is this team needs to improve a lot in order to beat McComb, much less Van Buren.

Spot on!

FF84... you should be happy, you were able to talk falcon sports at work and it was relevant to the BVC!

[Bluetiger76]

falconfan84, on 09 October 2015 - 09:51 PM, said:

Didn't go the game. Heard Riverdale had the lead for a while. Did L-B play their starters? I wouldn't put it past them to play the bench against us, since they routinely pull that prank during track season...saving their better runners for the "important" meets.

I am with playmaker, I saw a lot of starters on the field for LB. The fact is, the Riverdale kids played LB even in the first half and may have even out played them even though the score was 14-14 at half.

I only stayed for the first half, but LB was fair catching punts that could have been fielded and they threw little to no passes farther than 5 yard routes. Were they extending the field to work on the dismal offense, probably. But the fact is they got out played the first half, period. They truly played to the level of the opponent.

And....the Riverdale boys came to play, kudos to them!

Edited by Bluetiger76, 10 October 2015 - 11:08 AM.

[harry419419]

falconfan84,

You can't argue with LB's track success but nice try. They usually have 80-90 boys/girls combined on the track team. The way they use their week day duel/tri meets is to develop all of their athletes. They have 40-50 kids that don't participate on Saturday's so they use these meets to develop them. If it's such an issue please don't schedule a meet with them. Just wait to run the varsity at the BVC meet and let me know how that goes. We love having Riverdale in the league but I've never been a fan of you personally. You continue to prove my reasons......

Riverdale has a decent football team and has a lot of bright spots with some underclassmen. LB, not so much. Riverdale wins this game next year.

[falconfan84]

harry419419, on 10 October 2015 - 04:00 PM, said:

falconfan84,

You can't argue with LB's track success but nice try. They usually have 80-90 boys/girls combined on the track team. The way they use their week day duel/tri meets is to develop all of their athletes. They have 40-50 kids that don't participate on Saturday's so they use these meets to develop them. If it's such an issue please don't schedule a meet with them. Just wait to run the varsity at the BVC meet and let me know how that goes. We love having Riverdale in the league but I've never been a fan of you personally. You continue to prove my reasons......

Riverdale has a decent football team and has a lot of bright spots with some underclassmen. LB, not so much. Riverdale wins this game next year.

L-B's track success is not being argued. They have had some great individual and relay performers for many years. That is what wins invitational, district, regional, and state trophies...but not necessarily the case in a duel meet, where the measure of the entire team is much better represented. It can be perceived as patronizing when only the JV's are dressed and participating...that's all. If we want to see how we measure up against L-B's TEAM, we're not given that opportunity. At the BVC, each team is going against the 2 best in each event from 11 other schools...not exactly the same as placing your best 5-10 kids per individual event against one other school's. In a dual meet, a coach can still develop the younger talent...EVERYBODY can compete. Place them in a faster heat, create a 2nd or 3rd relay team, mix up the members of relay teams so that you have created 2 or more "evenly" matched teams to create competition within your own team members for placement on the relay that competes in the conference meet and beyond. When I ran for Riverdale, we had around 45 boys and maybe even more girls on the teams, so I know what it's like to have numbers competing, scoring (or not) and trying to make varsity. BTW, I'd rather not schedule them, in comparison to a team that provides a challenge so we can improve. I'd love to have them at full power, though...If we get beat, we get beat...there's nothing to gain, otherwise.

Regardless, if you didn't know how it went in last year's BVC meet, we ended up 2nd to L-B, while missing one boy that would have scored points in the pole vault and 300 hurdles and another boy that would have joined him on the 400 and 800 relays. We still would not have caught up to L-B's point total, but it would have closed the gap a bit and made our 1/2 point spread over Hopewell-Loudan a bit larger. So...if you were trying to be condescending...better luck next time.

I'm glad you like having Riverdale in the league. We're glad to be a part of it. The problem here harry419419 (and HH75...and maybe a few others) you guys don't even know ME, you just aren't a fan of my "persona" on an online sports forum...sorry about that. My problem is that it is far too comfy being a bit "anonymous" behind my computer screen, so I type things in a way I wouldn't say face-to-face. I'm actually pretty easy-going and enjoy talking about and comparing high school sports stuff.

[Whiterabbit]

falcon, I won't take the bait; but I will ask just for no other reason. You were a runner in high school right? Non football player?

[falconfan84]

Whiterabbit, on 11 October 2015 - 07:11 AM, said:

falcon, I won't take the bait; but I will ask just for no other reason. You were a runner in high school right? Non football player?

Whiterabbit - The ONLY reason we're talking track on here is because of the original remark I made about how L-B doesn't always run their best in meets...I wondered if that were true when they were playing us Friday night in football. That evidently struck a nerve with more than a few wanting to defend their track progam...and so here we are many posts later...