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[dw629]

LimaJock, on 15 March 2014 - 06:57 PM, said:

Davis would bring basketball back to the era when they played with discipline. That was an old WBL coach also.....think about it. LJ

Comparing him to Ohio basketball hall of famer Ron Niekamp? Lofty comparison but no doubt Davis would have some success. If you're an LSH fan or player 2 years in the 2 major sports getting Fell AND Davis. If they can't bring excitement back not sure who can.

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[SpartanDome]

dw629, on 15 March 2014 - 07:43 PM, said:

Comparing him to Ohio basketball hall of famer Ron Niekamp? Lofty comparison but no doubt Davis would have some success. If you're an LSH fan or player 2 years in the 2 major sports getting Fell AND Davis. If they can't bring excitement back not sure who can.

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@LimaJock and @dw629 I am afraid both of you have been celebrating a weee bit too much of the Saint Patrick Day brew today. Comparing Davis to Mike Fell and Ron Niekamp?? Really now.
dw629 Mike Fell won year in and year out at just about everywhere except Celina. PLEASE do not compare 7/10 years losing record as that of being similar to Fell. You REALLY jumped on the Coaching at Lima Senior and ASSumed that I was talking about dealing with "those bad"" kids. You do not understand Lima Senior students or players do you? There are a lot of Coaches that CAN and WILL bring excitement back to the Spartans in Basketball.......I do not think you can really put Davis into that category.
LimaJock what is the definition of discipline to you? Would you say "The General" Bobby Knight knows what discipline is?

[whatdoiknow]

Sparty dome,

If Doug Davis isnt qualified then who?

[SpartanDome]

JBball, on 14 March 2014 - 07:30 AM, said:

Doug Davis and Kirk Looser built Delphos Jefferson up from nothing into a consistent 14-16 win team. They did the same at Bath and have had good team for the past 6-7 years. It hasn't been due only to a few good classes. I would hate to see them leave Bath but could understand it.

Again JBball I did a little checking and I looked up what records I could find and below are the season records for Delphos Jefferson from 1999-2004
03-04 10-10
02-03 14-5
01-02 13-4
00-01 9-9
99-00 7-11
I am not sure when Doug Davis started st Delphos Jefferson but he surely did NOT HAVE consistently 14-16 wins like you claimed

Edited by SpartanDome, 15 March 2014 - 08:32 PM.

[bball_fanatic]

I just saw on Twitter one of the LSH players wrote... "Coach Allen just got fired- Thank God".
Interesting a player would put that he was thankful for his coach getting fired on social media. Could be the issue right there.....

[BBCAT]

At Jefferson they never got out of the sectionals. Had all that talent including Looser's son for 4 of those years and did nothing in the league and tournament. ,

[SpartanDome]

whatdoiknow, on 15 March 2014 - 08:27 PM, said:

Sparty dome,

If Doug Davis isnt qualified then who?

I think BEFORE anyone hands the Lima Senior gym keys to Davis, that maybe we might want to open the job up for interviews???? I know Quincey Simpson was mentioned as far as someone who is in the area. I do NOT think that because Fell wants Davis or these other posters on here that claim he is a great coach with made up numbers of wins that he could correct what has happened at Lima Senior. I am tired of seeing what was once a PROUD PROGRAM being run into the ground.

[dw629]

Fell in about 15-20 years has been to 2 or 3 regional finals. Doug Davis has made it that far the past two seasons.

Celina football was in better shape when fell took over compared to bath bball program when Davis took over. I feel Davis got to see the rebuilding through to see this success as fell got ran out after his losing seasons.

Your right I don't know a lot about the Lima kids but feel they deserve a coach who has a resume like this coming from a D2 hs. I am not saying he is the absolute best coach but I believe if he applies his resume will stand head and shoulders above others. Who will apply better? Matter of fact name someone who has coached in the regionals the past two seasons at any level let alone the D2 level and might be interested.

People will apply for this job with no head high school coaching experience (and would not be a teacher in the school system)and those resumes won't even get an interview. Nobody hotter than Davis right now and interested in the job in my and many many others opinion.

LSH doesn't have the best luck recently so I wouldn't be surprised if Davis actually isn't even interested. Davis to coach and teach at LSH almost too good to be true for LSH.

Edited by dw629, 15 March 2014 - 08:51 PM.

[whatdoiknow]

Give us some names sparty. Who should they go after?

[SpartanDome]

dw629 are you related to Doug? You can not compare football regional to basketball. You write resume and how GREAT it is. Let's look at the numbers.
from 1999 to 2014 only 5 winning seasons as a head Coach.His last five years at Delphos Jefferson only 2 winning seasons (that is NOT building a program) He was at Bath for 7 years before they had a winning record? I have not seen his teams and I can only go on what I hear from those that have seen the games and the records I can find. I have to conclude then that HE HAS BENEFITED from a couple of good classes NOT BUILT A PROGRAM.

[bball_fanatic]

Doug Davis will be next coach at LSH.... has already been in the works and seems Bath has not made Davis happy over the years (on and off the court), even with the recent success. Fell and Zell are big time Davis supporters.....

[effingA]

I find it interesting that some think this a great job... A school district in transition, losing students to area schools, economic issues for the school... the list goes on. I can't see too many successful coaches that would apply for this job. Young ones, college assistants tired of recruiting, and ones that haven't been too successful are what I would expect. The alumni connection seems to have worked for football but let's be honest... if Fell could have went somewhere else, he would have. He had applied elsewhere. It'll be interesting to see who gets hired if Allen is indeed done.

Edited by effingA, 15 March 2014 - 09:06 PM.

[Maltese Falcon]

Brock Howe is the heir apparent at Lima Senior, he coached JV at Bath and left to go to Lima Sr. knowing Allen was on his way out. if Davis is indeed finished at Bath Coach Howe will most likely try for that position.

[dw629]

SpartanDome, on 15 March 2014 - 08:59 PM, said:

dw629 are you related to Doug? You can not compare football regional to basketball. You write resume and how GREAT it is. Let's look at the numbers.
from 1999 to 2014 only 5 winning seasons as a head Coach.His last five years at Delphos Jefferson only 2 winning seasons (that is NOT building a program) He was at Bath for 7 years before they had a winning record? I have not seen his teams and I can only go on what I hear from those that have seen the games and the records I can find. I have to conclude then that HE HAS BENEFITED from a couple of good classes NOT BUILT A PROGRAM.

I'm just defending the guy because you're hating on the guy so hard. Not related just like seeing successful coaches work their way up.

Instead of bashing Davis and his accomplishments do what myself and several others have asked over and over what resume is better? Give us serious names of people who are qualified to run a HIGH SCHOOL D1 program with better resume. Anybody not a current HS head coach or former head HS coach is not serious for a D1 job in my opinion.

Edited by dw629, 15 March 2014 - 09:11 PM.

[dw629]

effingA, on 15 March 2014 - 09:05 PM, said:

I find it interesting that some think this a great job... A school district in transition, losing students to area schools, economic issues for the school... the list goes on. I can't see too many successful coaches that would apply for this job. Young ones, college assistants tired of recruiting, and ones that haven't been too successful are what I would expect. The alumni connection seems to have worked for football but let's be honest... if Fell could have went somewhere else, he would have. He had applied elsewhere. It'll be interesting to see who gets hired if Allen is indeed done.

Exactly why Davis is a No-brainer

[dw629]

Maltese Falcon, on 15 March 2014 - 09:08 PM, said:

Brock Howe is the heir apparent at Lima Senior, he coached JV at Bath and left to go to Lima Sr. knowing Allen was on his way out. if Davis is indeed finished at Bath Coach Howe will most likely try for that position.

I can see this..

[effingA]

Someone brought up Davis had Looser and all that talent... If my memory serves me, there were 2 schools in the NWC that were can't miss with talent during those 4 years... Looser's DJ and Grimslid's Ada. Neither won at the level EVERYONE expected them to after JH. Both those players got better but not many of their teammates did... Was that coaching....

[DC/MS]

Heath is next

[SpartanDome]

dw629, on 15 March 2014 - 09:09 PM, said:

I'm just defending the guy because you're hating on the guy so hard. Not related just like seeing successful coaches work their way up.

Instead of bashing Davis and his accomplishments do what myself and several others have asked over and over what resume is better? Give us serious names of people who are qualified to run a HIGH SCHOOL D1 program with better resume. Anybody not a current HS head coach or former head HS coach is not serious for a D1 job in my opinion.

I was NEVER attempting to BASH DOUG DAVIS. I DO NOT like people posting on here as if they are stating facts regarding Coaches records as if they are factual... example JBball stated Davis turned Delphos Jefferson into a 14-16 win team per year and Bath was a good team the last 6-7 years because of what Davis has done. If someone reads this they think that is TRUE. I simply listed THE FACTS which were meant to show the actual records of the last 5 years at Delphos Jefferson and the record year by year at Bath. As I have stated previously in this thread I have not seen ANY of Doug Davis games in person. I am using the FACTS of the records WHICH SUPPORTED another poster on this thread that said he was benefiting from a few good classes of players. I AM A SUPPORTER OF LIMA SENIOR BASKETBALL. I want what is best for the overall program from now and into the future. I do not want LIMA SENIOR to simply go after "the flavor of the month" because he is as you put "Nobody hotter than Davis right now" CAN YOU GIVE ME factual information that shows me that DOUG DAVIS has instituted a developmental program at the lower grades at Bath to build a program? CAN YOU GIVE ME examples of players that he was instrumental in helping to develop into better players? I do not want to have another JBball come on here and say that Sullivan could not dribble a ball until Davis worked with him or whatever. I have and will continue to find out any information I can both GOOD and BAD about anyone that is mentioned as a "potential" candidate for the next Coach at Lima Senior.
NOW WHO should Lima Senior go after?????????
I made some calls and sent some texts to my connections in Lima. THE BIGGEST CONCERN AND NEED for the next coach at Lima Senior is to be able to connect with the players. Just because someone is an Alum DOES NOT mean they will understand and connect with the players. Coach Allen is an example of that. Two Coaches were mentioned and texted to me from numerous people as the MAIN COACHES that LSH should try to get. Now will LSH go after them and will these two even want to come and coach at Lima Senior?
The two coaches mentioned were:
Paul Whitney
Quincey Simpson
I think it would be interesting to see if these two would be willing to come back............what for it............ WHAT IF THEY BOTH CAME BACK to coach in the program?????

Edited by SpartanDome, 16 March 2014 - 02:07 PM.

[effingA]

Whit would be an interesting choice... He hasn't been a HC for sometime. I do know he did stay involved in lower, Freshman maybe, at St. Iggy...
He certainly would bring sweat back to LSH... literally. He would need some bigger towels.