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[redskin rowdy]

whatdoiknow, on 09 February 2014 - 07:13 PM, said:

When was the last time wapak made a playoff run?

Won 2 playoff games in school history so none depending on what you mean run.

[wapak_redskin_fan]

Did some checking on the records of the schools the three finalist coach at and the records of their opponents.

Bucyrus Wynford 2005 Div5 record was10-0. (6 wins against teams with a losing record. got beat in 3rd round of playoffs.) 2006 Dv.5 record was 9-1. (5 wins against teams with a losing record, 1 win against a team with a 5-5 record and 2 games against teams 6-4) lost in 1st round of playoffs. 2007 Div 5 went10-0 ( 6 wins against teams with a losing record 2 against 5-5 teams lost in 1st round of playoffs) 2008 Div. 5 record 10-0 (7 wins against teams with a losing record and 1 against a 5-5 team) lost in 2nd round of playoff. 2009 Div. 6 record 10-0( 7 wins against teams with a losing record, 1 against a 5-5 team) lost 3rd round of playoffs. 2010 Div. 6 record 10-0 (3 wins against teams with a losing record, 3 wins against teams 5-5 ) lost in 1st round of playoffs. 2011 Div 5 record 10-0 (4 wins against teams with losing record, 2 wins against teams 5-5) lost in 4th round of playoffs. 2012 Div. 5 record 8-2( 5 wins against teams with losing record) lost 2nd round playoffs.

Ft. Loramie
2005 D6 record 5-5 (4 wins against teams with losing record1 against a 5-5 team) 2006 D6 record 7-3 (5 wins against teams with losing record 2 wins against teams 5-5) 2007 D6 record 8-2( all 8 wins against teams with a losing record. 2008 D6 record 5-5 (4 wins against teams with losing record). 2009 D6 record 8-2 (5 wins against teams with a losing record, 2 wins against 5-5 teams) got beat in 3rd round of playoffs. 2010 D6 record 8-2 (4 wins against teams with losing record, 1 win against a 5-5 team) lost in 1st round of playoffs to marion local. 2011 D6 record 9-1 ( 5 of 9 wins came against teams with a losing record, 1 win came against team with a 5-4 record) lost in 2nd round of playoffs against minster. 2012 D6 record 8-2 (6 0f 8 wins came against teams with a losing record, 1 win against a 5-5 team) lost in 1st round of playoffs. 2013 D7 record 8-2 (5 of 8 wins against teams with losing record, 1 win against a team with a 5-5 record) lost in 1st round of playoffs against marion local.

Wayne Trace
2004 D5 record 5-5 all 5 wins against teams with losing record. 2005 D5 record 10-0 (7 of 10 wins against teams with losing record) lost in 2nd round of playoffs. 2006 D5 record 6-4 (4 of 6 wins against teams with a losing record, played 5 teams with a losing record. 2007 D6 record 4-6 (3 of 4 wins came against teams with a losing record. 2008 D6 record 3-7 (2 o 3 wins came against 0-10 teams and 1 win against a 5-5 team ) 2009 D5 record 6-4 (all 6 wins against teams with a losing record) 2010 D5 record 5-5 (all 5 wins against teas with losing record) 2011 D5 (all 5 wins against teams with a losing record) 2012 D5 record 9-1 (5 of 9 wins came against teams with a losing record 1 I against a team with a 5-5 record ) 2013 D6 record 9-1 6 of 9 wins against teams with a losing record) got beat in state championship game .

[the_beezer]

dartmaster63, on 09 February 2014 - 05:37 PM, said:

Beezer
Your love for Frye really makes me sick
He won some football games while he was in Wapak ...so what??
Those wins came with a downside and if you don't get that you will NEVER understand
There are many coaches that can win, lead our kids and not have that downside
Honestly.. I feel that he s@#$ on this community before he got here, s@#$ on his while he was here and s@#$ on us when he left

First off I have a love for my Redskins and seeing them win and go to the playoffs I LOVED! Frye brought winning back to Wapak and for that yes I was thankful but when he turned his back on our kids then to hell with him. Don't ever post what you think Im saying and your makes me sick comment warms my heart.

[the_beezer]

the_beezer, on 09 February 2014 - 11:43 AM, said:

Maybe we all need to just go to Frye's house and sit down with him and ask him to come back.

This was a sarcastic post for those who want to post about it.

[dartmaster63]

the_beezer, on 09 February 2014 - 10:12 PM, said:

First off I have a love for my Redskins and seeing them win and go to the playoffs I LOVED! Frye brought winning back to Wapak and for that yes I was thankful but when he turned his back on our kids then to hell with him. Don't ever post what you think Im saying and your makes me sick comment warms my heart.

Funny...
First off. Its good to know that they are "your" Redskins, as if, parents of players have no insight of the Frye program
Secondly. I have never posted what I think you are saying...Your slobbering has been well documented by your own posts including an assinine comment about Frye coaching basketball instead of supporting coach Selvey that will win and actually wants to be here
Finally, I'm glad that I can warm your heart. Now if only I can get you warm your brain before posting

[redskin rowdy]

So does anyone have any updates on who the remaining candidates are for them to choose?

[Chilidog]

Haven't heard anything.

[wapak_redskin_fan]

I have heard that it is the coaches from Bucyrus Wynford, Ft. Loramie and Wayne Trace. Those are the names I keep hearing that is why I posted each teams record since 2004 in a earlier post.

[osufan512]

wapak_redskin_fan, on 09 February 2014 - 09:21 PM, said:

Did some checking on the records of the schools the three finalist coach at and the records of their opponents.

Bucyrus Wynford 2005 Div5 record was10-0. (6 wins against teams with a losing record. got beat in 3rd round of playoffs.) 2006 Dv.5 record was 9-1. (5 wins against teams with a losing record, 1 win against a team with a 5-5 record and 2 games against teams 6-4) lost in 1st round of playoffs. 2007 Div 5 went10-0 ( 6 wins against teams with a losing record 2 against 5-5 teams lost in 1st round of playoffs) 2008 Div. 5 record 10-0 (7 wins against teams with a losing record and 1 against a 5-5 team) lost in 2nd round of playoff. 2009 Div. 6 record 10-0( 7 wins against teams with a losing record, 1 against a 5-5 team) lost 3rd round of playoffs. 2010 Div. 6 record 10-0 (3 wins against teams with a losing record, 3 wins against teams 5-5 ) lost in 1st round of playoffs. 2011 Div 5 record 10-0 (4 wins against teams with losing record, 2 wins against teams 5-5) lost in 4th round of playoffs. 2012 Div. 5 record 8-2( 5 wins against teams with losing record) lost 2nd round playoffs.

Ft. Loramie
2005 D6 record 5-5 (4 wins against teams with losing record1 against a 5-5 team) 2006 D6 record 7-3 (5 wins against teams with losing record 2 wins against teams 5-5) 2007 D6 record 8-2( all 8 wins against teams with a losing record. 2008 D6 record 5-5 (4 wins against teams with losing record). 2009 D6 record 8-2 (5 wins against teams with a losing record, 2 wins against 5-5 teams) got beat in 3rd round of playoffs. 2010 D6 record 8-2 (4 wins against teams with losing record, 1 win against a 5-5 team) lost in 1st round of playoffs to marion local. 2011 D6 record 9-1 ( 5 of 9 wins came against teams with a losing record, 1 win came against team with a 5-4 record) lost in 2nd round of playoffs against minster. 2012 D6 record 8-2 (6 0f 8 wins came against teams with a losing record, 1 win against a 5-5 team) lost in 1st round of playoffs. 2013 D7 record 8-2 (5 of 8 wins against teams with losing record, 1 win against a team with a 5-5 record) lost in 1st round of playoffs against marion local.

Wayne Trace
2004 D5 record 5-5 all 5 wins against teams with losing record. 2005 D5 record 10-0 (7 of 10 wins against teams with losing record) lost in 2nd round of playoffs. 2006 D5 record 6-4 (4 of 6 wins against teams with a losing record, played 5 teams with a losing record. 2007 D6 record 4-6 (3 of 4 wins came against teams with a losing record. 2008 D6 record 3-7 (2 o 3 wins came against 0-10 teams and 1 win against a 5-5 team ) 2009 D5 record 6-4 (all 6 wins against teams with a losing record) 2010 D5 record 5-5 (all 5 wins against teas with losing record) 2011 D5 (all 5 wins against teams with a losing record) 2012 D5 record 9-1 (5 of 9 wins came against teams with a losing record 1 I against a team with a 5-5 record ) 2013 D6 record 9-1 6 of 9 wins against teams with a losing record) got beat in state championship game .

Good info. I think Speller arrived at WT as the head coach in 2004. His career record is like 10 games over .500 but 13 of his 43 career victories came this season. Burgbacher wasn't the coach at FL as far back as your stats go. He became the HC in 2009 I believe. Took the Redskins to the playoffs every season, usually being eliminated by a MAC school (particularly Marion Local). Im not sure when Moyer's 1st season was at Wynford but I do know he was not the coach of the 2012 and 2013 football teams due to his resignation a few years ago.

I still feel like Burgbacher will get the nod. Moyer probably has had the better career in terms of length and # of victories of the three, however, I feel that with him being out of coach for 2 seasons and not being "local" will hurt his chances. Burgbacher is some what local, which I think will help him. I think Speller will come up short, although he is the dark horse candidate in my opinion. He is coming off a state runner up, so he is probably the "sexy" candidate right now.

I do tend the laugh at many of you guys who are viewing Wapak as a "destination" job. Over the history, the Redskins have won 2 playoff games. All of the good coaches they have had have left after a few years or they have average talent and coaches paired together, which leads to the coach being ran off after a few seasons. How many coaches has Wapak had in the last 25 years? Seems like they are constantly losing their coach. It probably has something to do with unrealistic expectations. In all honesty, Wapak can probably hope to compete for a WBL title 3 or 4 years out of every 10 and will make the playoffs and win a game or two (maybe). To me, that is the ceiling at Wapak. So to act like this is a "destination" job is a bit extreme. But, don't get me wrong, the community and facilities are top notch and one I would definitely have no issues raising my family in. I just think there is more being put into this job then what should be.

[redskin rowdy]

osufan512, on 10 February 2014 - 10:23 AM, said:

Good info. I think Speller arrived at WT as the head coach in 2004. His career record is like 10 games over .500 but 13 of his 43 career victories came this season. Burgbacher wasn't the coach at FL as far back as your stats go. He became the HC in 2009 I believe. Took the Redskins to the playoffs every season, usually being eliminated by a MAC school (particularly Marion Local). Im not sure when Moyer's 1st season was at Wynford but I do know he was not the coach of the 2012 and 2013 football teams due to his resignation a few years ago.

I still feel like Burgbacher will get the nod. Moyer probably has had the better career in terms of length and # of victories of the three, however, I feel that with him being out of coach for 2 seasons and not being "local" will hurt his chances. Burgbacher is some what local, which I think will help him. I think Speller will come up short, although he is the dark horse candidate in my opinion. He is coming off a state runner up, so he is probably the "sexy" candidate right now.

I do tend the laugh at many of you guys who are viewing Wapak as a "destination" job. Over the history, the Redskins have won 2 playoff games. All of the good coaches they have had have left after a few years or they have average talent and coaches paired together, which leads to the coach being ran off after a few seasons. How many coaches has Wapak had in the last 25 years? Seems like they are constantly losing their coach. It probably has something to do with unrealistic expectations. In all honesty, Wapak can probably hope to compete for a WBL title 3 or 4 years out of every 10 and will make the playoffs and win a game or two (maybe). To me, that is the ceiling at Wapak. So to act like this is a "destination" job is a bit extreme. But, don't get me wrong, the community and facilities are top notch and one I would definitely have no issues raising my family in. I just think there is more being put into this job then what should be.

A ceiling for a high school football program? Wapak was around 6 kids away from being in Division III 3 years ago and beat an Elida team who was a couple points away from being in the Championship game in Division III.

Edited by redskin rowdy, 10 February 2014 - 10:55 AM.

[the_beezer]

Saw some of the local college signings and wondered if Schmerge was going anywhere? He was a stud on both sides of the ball.

[the_beezer]

dartmaster63, on 10 February 2014 - 12:12 AM, said:

Funny...
First off. Its good to know that they are "your" Redskins, as if, parents of players have no insight of the Frye program
Secondly. I have never posted what I think you are saying...Your slobbering has been well documented by your own posts including an assinine comment about Frye coaching basketball instead of supporting coach Selvey that will win and actually wants to be here
Finally, I'm glad that I can warm your heart. Now if only I can get you warm your brain before posting

Along time ago I would have went toe to toe with you but have my twin girls playing next to me and in a better place. So take your shots twist my words but I have a beautiful wife and even prettier girls so life is good.

[BIGWBLFAN]

Beezer! You crack me up!

[the_beezer]

BIGWBLFAN, on 10 February 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

Beezer! You crack me up!

So what part of the WBL do you represent? If you have not noticed were are a very dysfunctional family.

[BlueBuckIjays]

4 more posts this thread to reach 500. Heck I will post 3 more after this so I can have the 500th post and win the shopping spree :-) No, will let Beezer get it worked hard on this thread

Edited by BlueBuckIjays, 10 February 2014 - 05:31 PM.

[magnum]

I'm to lazy to look back. What offenses do the finalists run?

[Week 10 All-American]

magnum, on 10 February 2014 - 06:10 PM, said:

I'm to lazy to look back. What offenses do the finalists run?

Wing T

Wing and Fling

Spread

[Week 10 All-American]

I'll check my mailbox tomorrow morning for the cash prize of being the 500th post on this son of a gun.

Thank you very much.

[redskin rowdy]

I do see Burgbacher being the next coach in my opinion though.

[the_beezer]

Week 10 All-American, on 10 February 2014 - 06:50 PM, said:

I'll check my mailbox tomorrow morning for the cash prize of being the 500th post on this son of a gun.

Thank you very much.

PM your info will send u a Wapak hat for 500th post.