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[clutch]

Irish Viking 87, on 09 February 2014 - 11:32 AM, said:

How many of those coaches are still around? Coaching at the same school, when they went after the ref's.

Atleast one.

[Irish Viking 87]

clutch, on 09 February 2014 - 11:34 AM, said:

Atleast one.

For now

[Rocketman]

Well now.....does this "really" surprise anyone here?
Buzzkill is under extreme pressure and it is games such as this which will be his eventual undoing......I love Flounder to death but this is something we disagree on completely....

and while someone said earlier that many coaches have done this stuff in the past, this is the age of "instant messaging"......all he has to do is being filmed, videoed, youtubed, or whatever pushing a ref, player or fan and he's gone......poof!

and with his makeup, it's only a matter of time........certainly by next year this time after Quincy (next LSH coach) has squirreled away his son and others back to LSH........then watch the sparks fly

[clutch]

So now hes pushing a ref, fan or player? No one even knows if he talked to the refs or if showing him the video was even his intention. If it is true, WHO CARES lol. A very intense game ending with two bad calls in the final 3 seconds by the same official, one of which negated a possible game winning layup. I think we all would have been a little upset as coaches.

[lima ball]

clutch, on 09 February 2014 - 12:55 PM, said:

So now hes pushing a ref, fan or player? No one even knows if he talked to the refs or if showing him the video was even his intention. If it is true, WHO CARES lol. A very intense game ending with two bad calls in the final 3 seconds by the same official, one of which negated a possible game winning layup. I think we all would have been a little upset as coaches.

This doesn't even take into account all the other bad calls throughout the game. It's too bad an official makes the "out of bounds" when you can clearly see he isn't even looking at his feet. Unfortunate for all involved in this game that a ref's fault is what deteines the outcome of a game like this.

Edited by lima ball, 09 February 2014 - 01:20 PM.

[Colt45]

Calls were bad both ways the whole night.

[Rocketman]

So I take it that "Coach Q" has been videotaping all of the LCC games this season?.........and after filming this
he rushes down to the bench after the game (seeing as there only seconds left in the game, but who knows)
and shows this to Buzzkill?...........I need to have this question answered: "Does Coach Q also attend, take part in,
or just watch most LCC practices?........it is becoming a little more clear that there are other dynamics that are starting
to unfold in this whole story.......Would the LCC AD be willing to allow co-coaches next year at LSCC and avert the
possibility of this very talented crop to enroll at Lima Sr. next year?......would Coach Q be willing to play second fiddle,
or for that matter would Buzzkill be willing to check his ego at the door?.....something to think about.....RM

[lima ball]

Colt45, on 09 February 2014 - 01:06 PM, said:

Calls were bad both ways the whole night.

As I said it is unfortunate the refs had to get in the way of that game, but the major bad calls went against LCC

[Colt45]

lima ball, on 09 February 2014 - 01:22 PM, said:

As I said it is unfortunate the refs had to get in the way of that game, but the major bad calls went against LCC

There was a lot of bad calls. I think that was a 4 point play that they called off on Mathias. Overall officiating wasn't good but I wouldn't want there job.

[slice slice baby]

amazing

[Mr Bearcat]

That last foul on LCC was a good call.

[Irish Viking 87]

I just watched the replay of the game, and here's my thoughts. Maybe if LCC doesn't get down 17-6 in the first, maybe if they don't let Mathias go off for 42, and maybe if they don't get a technical for taunting the calls at the end don't matter. It was a great game that looked like it had great atmosphere. Don't deminish it by blaming the loss on the ref's. Moser was the ref that made the out of bounds call, but he was not the ref that called the foul.(He was on the endline)It was a great learning experience for both teams, that will only help them come tournament time.

[NWbballfan]

Irish Viking 87, on 09 February 2014 - 02:16 PM, said:

I just watched the replay of the game, and here's my thoughts. Maybe if LCC doesn't get down 17-6 in the first, maybe if they don't let Mathias go off for 42, and maybe if they don't get a technical for taunting the calls at the end don't matter. It was a great game that looked like it had great atmosphere. Don't deminish it by blaming the loss on the ref's. Moser was the ref that made the out of bounds call, but he was not the ref that called the foul.(He was on the endline)It was a great learning experience for both teams, that will only help them come tournament time.

LCC folks can never accept a loss there's always someone or something to blame other than themselves.

[slice slice baby]

Irish Viking 87, on 09 February 2014 - 02:16 PM, said:

I just watched the replay of the game, and here's my thoughts. Maybe if LCC doesn't get down 17-6 in the first, maybe if they don't let Mathias go off for 42, and maybe if they don't get a technical for taunting the calls at the end don't matter. It was a great game that looked like it had great atmosphere. Don't deminish it by blaming the loss on the ref's. Moser was the ref that made the out of bounds call, but he was not the ref that called the foul.(He was on the endline)It was a great learning experience for both teams, that will only help them come tournament time.

A voice if reason.....

roadtoC-town, on 09 February 2014 - 10:12 AM, said:

Do you guys have any clue???? I can name more coaches then I can count who have went to the Ref's looker room after a game. I've seen coaches chase refs to the looker room, seen coaches try to tear down the locker room door and also seen coaches not let the refs go inside their locker room after a game.

Oh my god Frankie went to ref's locker room!

When has this become acceptable behavior at our HS games as role models for our kids to emulate in their future?

I understand passion, and even understand "tantrums" on the sidelines (actually find them quite an addition and entertaining!), but, harassing refs on their way into/ in their licker rooms? That's just ridiculous and unacceptable.

If you don't draw the line for the coaches for how temperamental they can be, how can you ever teach the kids how to control theirselves?

Did Chris Adams start all this grandstanding!?!?! Lol (still love ya,Chris!!! )

[flounder]

Chria Adams....Jack Albers.....Jeff Heiston....Dave Froelich.....Dick Krotokrax......yes, that's right..I said Dick Kortokrax....of course, it takes to much of his energy to do today what he did many years ago......when he was at Ottoville, they were in the Vatican and Dick thought he got a bum call.....he immediately took off the green blazer....threw it on the floor, and stomped the daylights out of it.....heaven forbid that the 'King' would do something like that, but I witnessed it!!!!!

[Chief Source]

How many turnovers and missed shots did the refs have throughout the game? Sounds like they really must have had a terrible game handling and shooting the ball to lose the game for LCC.

[roadtoC-town]

How naïve, perfect, and innocent you all must be.

You actually think every coach who chased a ref or went to their lock room wouldn't actually still be coaching.

Its ridiculous and unacceptable. LOL It has been happening for 50 years but now it is unacceptable.

Flounder could add another 20 names to his list.

[clutch]

Rocketman, on 09 February 2014 - 01:21 PM, said:

So I take it that "Coach Q" has been videotaping all of the LCC games this season?.........and after filming this
he rushes down to the bench after the game (seeing as there only seconds left in the game, but who knows)
and shows this to Buzzkill?...........I need to have this question answered: "Does Coach Q also attend, take part in,
or just watch most LCC practices?........it is becoming a little more clear that there are other dynamics that are starting
to unfold in this whole story.......Would the LCC AD be willing to allow co-coaches next year at LSCC and avert the
possibility of this very talented crop to enroll at Lima Sr. next year?......would Coach Q be willing to play second fiddle,
or for that matter would Buzzkill be willing to check his ego at the door?.....something to think about.....RM

You think he films the entire game on his cell phone? Or maybe just big moments like when they are going to take the last shot in a big game and his son has the hot hand?

Youre so obsessed with these lcc conspiracy theories, you sound like an idiot. Have you ever met frank kill or ron williams?

[Irish Viking 87]

roadtoC-town, on 09 February 2014 - 04:12 PM, said:

How naïve, perfect, and innocent you all must be.

You actually think every coach who chased a ref or went to their lock room wouldn't actually still be coaching.

Its ridiculous and unacceptable. LOL It has been happening for 50 years but now it is unacceptable.

Flounder could add another 20 names to his list.

It's always been unacceptable. With today's social media it is just more prevelant. If not for the internet and twitter, most people would not know anything happened after the game last night. Only some of those that were there and those that heard the radio broadcast would know about it. Not nearly the amount of people that know about it now. It's a totally different world today. The more people that know that these things happen, the more chances that someone complains and wants heads to roll.

[clutch]

NWbballfan, on 09 February 2014 - 02:38 PM, said:

LCC folks can never accept a loss there's always someone or something to blame other than themselves.

Dont be stupid. Every fan base at every level have fans like that. "Lcc folks" lol