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[Chilidog]

I beleive Shriner would be a good one if he tdoes get it.

[dw629]

Rocketman, on 29 January 2014 - 09:17 PM, said:

IF Shriner has applied................he is the only candidate that Wapak should even consider.......I don't care if Tressel applied
IF he hasn't, and this is all smoke up my rear.........well then, I suggest they try Zerbe

And you feel both these two are better than bill Inselman?

[Chilidog]

I don't know much about Inselman.

[zip52]

I believe Zerbe is overrated...he is a great guy and probably a great motivator, but I feel that Jim Morris had more to do with the turnaround of Spencerville than Zerbe. Inselmann is a great coach that has proven to be successful over a long period of time and with different levels of talent to work with...with that said, I do not see him making this dramatic of shift in his life when he is this close to retirement as a teacher.

I really am curious to see who gets this job...Wapak has the potential to do some big things, but I think it really relies on who is leading them to see how big they can go. Any word on who is being interviewed?

[wapak_redskin_fan]

No word on who but heard they were going to interview the top 6 or 7 candidates. Don't know how many applications they actually got last I heard it was around 40.

[wapak_redskin_fan]

Rocketman use your sources and find out who applied and who is getting an interview. You always claim to have the news first so here is your chance. I believe if someone calls the schools athletic department or the newspaper requesting who all applied they must give it to you. But as for the 6 or 7 getting interviews that might take a little more digging.

[2Legit2Quit]

CGMAN01, on 30 January 2014 - 01:01 PM, said:

If schriner does get the wapak job, who do you like to take over the helm at O-G.
Theres a couple of older veteran assistant and some great young minded coaches also there.

SHRINER IS NOT A CANDIDATE!!!

[Chilidog]

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[wapak_redskin_fan]

I also do not believe that Ken Shriner is a candidate, the one name that does keep coming up is Coach Inselman from Patrick Henry. We will find out soon as interviews will be within the next week. My neighbor said he asked the AD and was told that 7 applicants would interviewed and there was a total of 49 applications received.

[Redskin72]

Ken Schriner withdrew his name from consideration. Did some homework on some of the names mentioned.

Patrick Henry's Bill Inselmann- his record speaks for itself. I believe he is 200-62 with a state title.
Wayne Trace's Bill Speller- state runner up last year. Career record is ok, .550 win percentage. Runs a 5 wide throw it every down. Believe he is in his early 40s.
Bucyrus old coach Jake Bruner- young guy with 3 young children. 2nd winningest coach in school history, but career record is just ok.

IMO with our returning roster, we are built to win right now. That would make Inselmann the most logic choice. Be interesting, hiring committee member Ron Mertz said in paper he is looking for a long term candidate. How much does Inselmann have in the tank?

Now obviously we don't know all the names who applied or who our leading guys are as of right now, but this list is solid but not home run material. With our resources, we should have been very aggressive and went after some big names and not taken no for an answer. Heck for Frye, we created jobs for him and gave Bo a job.

So who would be home run?
Kevin Fell- some discussion here, but I'm told he was a viewed as a short term solution. Fell would have taken the job but with the familiarity already with Wapak, he wasn't interested in driving 3 hrs and jumping thru hoops multiple times.
Mike Fell- this was my wild card name I mentioned last weekend. Also said if offered he would take the job. Didn't really want to go thru the whole interview process. Asking a lot of questions about talent and coaches in the systems, jobs open in the systems, and who the competition would be.
Todd Schulte- also some discussion, but didn't want to move his family.
Ken Schriner- applied but withdrew. IMO he wanted to fly under the radar but his name got out quickly and he withdrew before upsetting the apple cart
I would have went after these guys. Stroke the ego, whatever it takes. Take a Wintzer orange truck filed with cash and get it done! Lol
Go skins

[gobucks123]

Not sure if this has been answered yet but is there a teaching position open?

[Redskin72]

gobucks123, on 31 January 2014 - 08:07 AM, said:

Not sure if this has been answered yet but is there a teaching position open?

High school gym teacher is retiring, that is official. Suppose to be another opening or two due to retirement but that hasn't been finalized yet.
And the old trump card. Frye's teaching job if they choose to renew it. Director of virtual online academy or whatever it's called. Administrative job. $60,000/yr to do nothing. Frye's posted classroom hrs last year where only 15 hrs/ wk.

[dw629]

Redskin72, on 31 January 2014 - 07:52 AM, said:

Ken Schriner withdrew his name from consideration. Did some homework on some of the names mentioned.

Patrick Henry's Bill Inselmann- his record speaks for itself. I believe he is 200-62 with a state title.
Wayne Trace's Bill Speller- state runner up last year. Career record is ok, .550 win percentage. Runs a 5 wide throw it every down. Believe he is in his early 40s.
Bucyrus old coach Jake Bruner- young guy with 3 young children. 2nd winningest coach in school history, but career record is just ok.

IMO with our returning roster, we are built to win right now. That would make Inselmann the most logic choice. Be interesting, hiring committee member Ron Mertz said in paper he is looking for a long term candidate. How much does Inselmann have in the tank?

Now obviously we don't know all the names who applied or who our leading guys are as of right now, but this list is solid but not home run material. With our resources, we should have been very aggressive and went after some big names and not taken no for an answer. Heck for Frye, we created jobs for him and gave Bo a job.

So who would be home run?
Kevin Fell- some discussion here, but I'm told he was a viewed as a short term solution. Fell would have taken the job but with the familiarity already with Wapak, he wasn't interested in driving 3 hrs and jumping thru hoops multiple times.
Mike Fell- this was my wild card name I mentioned last weekend. Also said if offered he would take the job. Didn't really want to go thru the whole interview process. Asking a lot of questions about talent and coaches in the systems, jobs open in the systems, and who the competition would be.
Todd Schulte- also some discussion, but didn't want to move his family.
Ken Schriner- applied but withdrew. IMO he wanted to fly under the radar but his name got out quickly and he withdrew before upsetting the apple cart
I would have went after these guys. Stroke the ego, whatever it takes. Take a Wintzer orange truck filed with cash and get it done! Lol
Go skins

How is Inselman not a home run and Kevin fell, mike fell and Ken Schriner are?

Inselman more wins and post season appearances than all 3 and has more regional final appearances, state semi appearances, state titles than all combined 3 combined.

Compare resumes and really inselman is significantly better. If Wapak could get 3-5 out of Inselman expect big things.

I think Mike Fell is a really good coach but what is his biggest accomplishment? I think it was his one regional final win in 20 years or goin 500 this year at Lima senior.

Again, I think fell is a great coach but I don't think he is in same category as Inselman when talking Homerun Hire.

Edited by dw629, 31 January 2014 - 08:47 AM.

[The Owl]

dw629, on 31 January 2014 - 08:46 AM, said:

How is Inselman not a home run and Kevin fell, mike fell and Ken Schriner are?

Inselman more wins and post season appearances than all 3 and has more regional final appearances, state semi appearances, state titles than all combined 3 combined.

Compare resumes and really inselman is significantly better. If Wapak could get 3-5 out of Inselman expect big things.

I think Mike Fell is a really good coach but what is his biggest accomplishment? I think it was his one regional final win in 20 years or goin 500 this year at Lima senior.

Again, I think fell is a great coach but I don't think he is in same category as Inselman when talking Homerun Hire.

Inselman is significantly better than the Fells and Schriner? Sure about that?

OG was the perpetual doormat of the WBL before Coach Schriner turned things around. They averaged about one win a year for a decade with zero playoff appearances or WBL titles in the history of the school. Before Schriner's first season of 6-4, they were 0-10 and hadn't even had a winning record in over a decade. Now, 7-3 is considered an average year and everyone takes it for granted. Heck, they went 6-4 this year and were considered "down" after last year's 10-0 team.

Maybe Teddy can do a better job with stats, but I think the Titans went to the playoffs 8 years in a row and are in double digit appearances despite being the smallest school in the WBL. Patrick Henry is a great football program but they don't have to deal with teams like Kenton or some of the athletes that OG has faced and defeated in the last decade, including the Mauk brothers and Micah Hyde of Fostoria - who is wearing green and yellow on Sundays.

OG also have a very good soccer program pulling athletes as well, something that MAC schools don't have to deal with and a big part of their unquestioned supremacy in Ohio small school football. Schriner has also had very high turnover on his coaching staff which is something many good programs haven't had to deal with.

OG's playoff losses are to an impressive list of storied programs including Germantown Valleyview, Bishop Watterson, Marion Pleasant, Genoa, Huron, Chagrin Falls and Bishop Hartley. Their only loss to a team that I considered good and not great was Archbold,

True, the Titans only made it to the state semis, and don't have a state title or runner-up finish. But considering their regular season schedule and playoff path is light years tougher than Patrick Henry's is, I'd say Schriners resume is at least comparable to Inselman's.

Edited by The Owl, 31 January 2014 - 09:56 AM.

[wapak_redskin_fan]

Well if Kevin Fell, Mike Fell,Ken Shriner, Todd Schulte are out of the picture and the hiring committee is interviewing 7 who else is out there? Are any of the internal guys getting interviews? (Patterson, Law, Sammons) What about the Coach at Covington High School? With some of these big hitters off the board who are the 7 that will get interviews? Would the school be interested in Kevin Fell again after he walked away from the program after just 3 years? Really curious who the 7 getting interviews are. They must be from other parts of Ohio or out of state applications because all the big guys in our area are already off the board except Coach Inselman from Patrick Henry.

Edited by wapak_redskin_fan, 31 January 2014 - 10:27 AM.

[flyerball23]

wapak_redskin_fan, on 31 January 2014 - 10:25 AM, said:

Well if Kevin Fell, Mike Fell,Ken Shriner, Todd Schulte are out of the picture and the hiring committee is interviewing 7 who else is out there? Are any of the internal guys getting interviews? (Patterson, Law, Sammons) What about the Coach at Covington High School? With some of these big hitters off the board who are the 7 that will get interviews? Would the school be interested in Kevin Fell again after he walked away from the program after just 3 years? Really curious who the 7 getting interviews are. They must be from other parts of Ohio or out of state applications because all the big guys in our area are already off the board except Coach Inselman from Patrick Henry.

If Coach Miller from Covington applied go ahead and offer to him now! He was a finalist for the Centerville job and has done a great job building Covington into a great program. I believe he runs a triple option offense with Covington, which would be a change but that could be a good offense with a great (smart) athlete at QB.

[Football Freak]

Inselman could give u 10 or more if he wanted. He is 52 and could coach into early to mid 60's if he wanted. Who knows how long he would coach but 5 to 10 years would give all asst coaches another great coach to learn under and go from there. He is a top notch coach and Patrick Henry may be the smallest team in their leage. It would be a knock out hire. I believe 2 or 3 they will interview will be great coaches.

[the_beezer]

The more I read the more I see Wapak screwing this up. When I read the article in the paper the thing that jumped out was A APPLICANT DIDNT NEED TO BE A HEAD COACH.

[Rajaha]

the_beezer, on 31 January 2014 - 10:53 AM, said:

The more I read the more I see Wapak screwing this up. When I read the article in the paper the thing that jumped out was A APPLICANT DIDNT NEED TO BE A HEAD COACH.

some assaistants at programs are better than some head coaches out there, dont punish a good coach becuase he's not a HC...

[the_beezer]

Rajaha, on 31 January 2014 - 11:10 AM, said:

some assaistants at programs are better than some head coaches out there, dont punish a good coach becuase he's not a HC...

Where Wapak is right now as a program a established head coach is needed. Just hope the names being mentioned are interested canidates.