106 replies to this topic

[Dman]

I'm going to guess that 3-18 from the charity line says as much about player comittment as coaching competency. But I don't disagree that the PG board may have made some questionable moves in the past...

I'd give that position at least 4-5 years before EVER passing judgement. The Lord Jesus himself could not coach Pandora to .500 at this time.

[hunt4em]

Jesus take the wheel !!

[Dman]

Funny stuff!

[caldwell]

Has Pandora named their coach for next year as of yet?

[yeley0437]

Please beg bradic to come back

[yeley0437]

On a serious note I really hope we give the new coach a chance but something tells me good ole pandora won't . Heard the parents are going nuts already

[hunt4em]

Not the parents going nuts, just uncle J.R. Who cares? This coach has the job as long as he wants it, just like the last one who left for family reasons. Yes Bradic got the shaft, now we all pay, thanks to a couple parents out of the dream team class. You know who it was J.H.

[Rocketman]

Chief Hunting4bear,

not sure if the current head coach will be around as long as you think.....

[zerodrama]

How is 3-18 from the line a coaching problem??? Line them up and shoot them in practices...players are in control once on the floor and in action...practice will make them better...them working on their own game will make them better...
can't do it just picking up the ball in time for the season to start...

[oldlefty]

:shrug2:hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha

[BigGreen]

Zerodrama is absolutely right. It's not the coach's fault when they shoot that poorly from the line. However, I think a coach's first off season is the most important time of his/her tenure at a new job. It is important for a coach to try to get their players motivated in an off season and they need to set that tone right away. It'll be interesting to see how the PG kids are playing next season.

Edited by BigGreen, 19 January 2014 - 03:20 PM.

[zerodrama]

Very true...athletes will only be as good in a sport by the time that they put into it...both during the season and off season. Coaches can motivate, teach, draw x's and o's...drill, and show...the kid has got to WANT to put the time in. Shooting free throws, shooting period...rebounding, playing tough defense comes from within the player...
those that want to do IT...do it...
Then there are the pretenders...the ones that pick it up just in time for the season to start. They might be able to match up a little in the beginning, but eventually they will be overcome by those that do it in the offseason as well.

[Common Sense]

Saw PG play once this year. They have a very, very low skill level. Not the coach's fault at this point. Give him a few years to work with the younger ones and build them up, then evaluate his coaching. It would be tough for anyone to win with what they have now.

[hunt4em]

Common Sense, on 20 January 2014 - 12:14 PM, said:

Not the coach's fault at this point. Give him a few years to work with the younger ones and build them up, then evaluate his coaching.

Won't argue any of the points made. But an observation between what I have seen this year and what I saw from an experienced coach like Bradic, and I have had a family member play for both.
First difference, the boys this year were willing and excited coming in, they went to every open gym the coach had and 99 percent of the time he had them scrimmage. This doesn't help with poor fundamentals and shooting in fact it ingrains bad habits deeper. Bradic on the other hand had the boys shooting, filling out shot charts,I remember Josh Lee shot like 30,000 shots over the summer.
Second the new coach had open gyms right after football weight lifting, try to use good form on the court after doing football max outs and dog solider days.
Bradic new better he even took the boys to south carolina for camps so they could focus on basketball.
I could continue, but I think you get the point. If the new coach is going to make players out of younger kids he will need to make some changes fast, and learn this is not a basketball only school, most of them play 3 sports. Hope it works out. Thanks for nothing to those who ran Bradic out, now the boys get new coaches learning on our kids.

[Common Sense]

hunt4em, on 20 January 2014 - 03:55 PM, said:

Won't argue any of the points made. But an observation between what I have seen this year and what I saw from an experienced coach like Bradic, and I have had a family member play for both.
First difference, the boys this year were willing and excited coming in, they went to every open gym the coach had and 99 percent of the time he had them scrimmage. This doesn't help with poor fundamentals and shooting in fact it ingrains bad habits deeper. Bradic on the other hand had the boys shooting, filling out shot charts,I remember Josh Lee shot like 30,000 shots over the summer.
Second the new coach had open gyms right after football weight lifting, try to use good form on the court after doing football max outs and dog solider days.
Bradic new better he even took the boys to south carolina for camps so they could focus on basketball.
I could continue, but I think you get the point. If the new coach is going to make players out of younger kids he will need to make some changes fast, and learn this is not a basketball only school, most of them play 3 sports. Hope it works out. Thanks for nothing to those who ran Bradic out, now the boys get new coaches learning on our kids.

Good points hunt, there is no doubt a coach can "polish" kids abilities and make them better players. But to ever compare some of his teams talent wise with the kids at PG now is absurd. PG had a 10-12 year run of really, really good basketball players, size and skill. Talent goes in cycles, I understand that. From what I saw this year, the kids play hard, and that's great, but playing hard can only take you so far if you can't shoot well or handle the ball. 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th grades are the most important times of development for basketball players. You can't have kids learning how to use their off hand as sophomores in high school.

[Dman]

Has anybody ever looked at off-season restrictions on basketball coaches? I love Braidic too... But the fact is that he only had 10 contact days to actually coach the kids. If his SC camp was 5 days... That left 5 other contact days to teach skills and drills.

My point... Most of the assumed reason for success of PG basketball during the Braidic era came from factors not likley related to his summer efforts. Most likely...as with all successful programs...the kids took it upon themselves...independent of the coach...to improve their game.

When fans/parents start thinking it is the coach's responsibility to "make" a kid good...I always chuckle. The good ones make themselves good... With the help of a coach certainly... But the impact is almost all weighted toward individual effort, skill, and abilities.

[hunt4em]

With all that in mind I have some basketball video's to sell to a P-g kid, since the coach isn't going to make an impact. Set of three, might even donate them if the kid lives north of the river.

[Dman]

Do you have any heart, desire, talent and effort for sale? A little of that will go a lot farther than anything else discussed...

[caldwell]

Braidic had as much talent as any small school in the State for two years in a row, how'd that work out? Yes, I said STATE

[PG OSU Alum]

"As much talent as any other small school in the state?" That may be a stretch. Thats the type of thiinking that gets coaches run out of town when the team doesn't perform like everyone thinks they should.

Please give this new coach a few years to learn and build a program. The cupboard is bare right now and isn't well stocked for the next few years either. But there is the "choosen" class in junioir high from what I hear. If thats the case then those parents need to be working together with the high school coach right now to develope the work ethic and expectations that it will take to be successful once they get into high school.

Braidic was a good coach, but nodoby ever brings up his first stint as coach at PG in the early 90's. He had a few not so impressive years. He was run out or left, not sure which, and went to Continental and learned under Doug Williams. Coaches have to develope just like the players have to develope. Give coach Smith a chance.