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[fortfan]

LCC was rejected by the MAC just a couple years ago when they and Sidney Lehman asked in. Obviously Flounder and I don't get a vote….Does everyone think LCC would dominate the MAC like they did the NWC? Wouldn't LCC/Coldwater, LCC/Versailles and LCC/Anna every year in football be interesting?

Edited by fortfan, 24 June 2013 - 02:11 PM.

[Mr Bearcat]

fortfan, on 24 June 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

LCC was rejected by the MAC just a couple years ago when they and Sidney Lehman asked in. Obviously Flounder and I don't get a vote….Does everyone think LCC would dominate the MAC like they did the NWC? Wouldn't LCC/Coldwater, LCC/Versailles and LCC/Anna every year in football be interesting?

Those matchups would be interesting. However with the way MAC schedules football now, Allthose matchups may Not happen every year.

[Wilco98]

fortfan, on 24 June 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

Wouldn't LCC/Coldwater, LCC/Versailles and LCC/Anna every year in football be interesting?

It'd certainly be a better matchup now than the last time the Cavs and T-Birds squared off on the gridiron. That 76-7 Coldwater victory probably wouldn't happen now.

[jeffcat-bucki]

Wilco98, on 24 June 2013 - 05:03 PM, said:

It'd certainly be a better matchup now than the last time the Cavs and T-Birds squared off on the gridiron. That 76-7 Coldwater victory probably wouldn't happen now.

........or would it?

[Wilco98]

jeffcat-bucki, on 24 June 2013 - 10:34 PM, said:

........or would it?

It'd be a far better matchup now.

Edited by Wilco98, 25 June 2013 - 06:04 AM.

[Bluetiger76]

fortfan, on 24 June 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

Does everyone think LCC would dominate the MAC like they did the NWC?

No. Since 2002 LCC has played St. Johns, Versailles, St. Henry, Coldwater, Anna and Minster a total of 17 times. Their record is 6-11 with an average score of MAC 31 vs. LCC 11. Their last 5 year matchup with St. Johns (only team they have played in the MAC in that period) has netted LCC a 2-3 record and an avg. losing score of St. Johns 20 vs. LCC13. Just some quick fact checking, I could be wrong.....but I don't think they would dominate the MAC.

Edited by Bluetiger76, 25 June 2013 - 07:39 AM.

[Rd2Glory]

Bluetiger76, on 25 June 2013 - 07:06 AM, said:

No. Since 2002 LCC has played St. Johns, Versailles, St. Henry, Coldwater, Anna and Minster a total of 17 times. Their record is 6-11 with an average score of MAC 31 vs. LCC 11. Their last 5 year matchup with St. Johns (only team they have played in the MAC in that period) has netted LCC a 2-3 record and an avg. losing score of St. Johns 20 vs. LCC13. Just some quick fact checking, I could be wrong.....but I don't think they would dominate the MAC.

If you go all the way back to 2002, LCC probably has a pretty pedestrian record against the NWC as well. LCC was bad for a number of years until 2005 (2-8 record in 2004 and 11-2 record in 2005). Since 2005, LCC's record against the MAC is 6-4:

vs. DSJ: 3-3
vs. St. Henry: 1-1
vs. Anna: 1-0
vs. Versailles: 1-0

By no means would they dominate in the MAC, but I do think they could compete and finish anywhere from 1st - 5th in any given year (5th place isn't so bad when the teams ahead of you are Coldwater/DSJ/St. Henry/Marion Local/Versailles/Minster/etc.)

Edited by Rd2Glory, 25 June 2013 - 01:18 PM.

[TheFan]

With Fell taking over the reigns at LSH, LCC's future cow farm is gonna get thinner and thinner; when its all said and done, they'll be lucky to compete with the bottom five in the Mighty MAC. "IF", with some freak of nature the MAC would even let them in.

[clutch]

TheFan, on 25 June 2013 - 06:37 PM, said:

With Fell taking over the reigns at LSH, LCC's future cow farm is gonna get thinner and thinner; when its all said and done, they'll be lucky to compete with the bottom five in the Mighty MAC. "IF", with some freak of nature the MAC would even let them in.

You don't believe that, you just hope that.

Edited by clutch, 25 June 2013 - 07:17 PM.

[TheFan]

clutch, on 25 June 2013 - 07:16 PM, said:

You don't believe that, you just hope that.

If you don't think the cow farm will shift directions.... you're sadly mistaken.

[clutch]

TheFan, on 25 June 2013 - 07:22 PM, said:

If you don't think the cow farm will shift directions.... you're sadly mistaken.

Cow farm? I think the parents that want to send their kids to LCC and can afford it, will utilize the voucher program and send their kids there and not because of football but because they want to make sure their kids get the chance at college....some of whom might even play football in college

[jawbreaker]

People still read the Lima News? Why?

I got a good laugh at people chest thumping about academics on a sports site. Also, someone using US News as a good ranking system is cute but the rankings really don't tell you much. Just like the college rankings, there are ways to make your school look better than others. For example, since Columbus Grove was mentioned, the latest state report card has them ranked 159 in the state (data from ODE's website - District Rating Data). There are many NWC, MAC, and BVC schools ahead of them. I will take DOE data over US News any day.

Saying that, this whole situation with LCC is sad and I wish it didn't play out this way.

[brunowball]

clutch, on 25 June 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

Cow farm? I think the parents that want to send their kids to LCC and can afford it, will utilize the voucher program and send their kids there and not because of football but because they want to make sure their kids get the chance at college....some of whom might even play football in college

Yes, because nobody goes to college from the area public schools. Nor do any go on to play college football.

If you're dedicated enough in your academics, you will succeed anywhere. If you're good enough to play college football, scouts will find you anywhere.

[jeffcat-bucki]

brunowball, on 25 June 2013 - 10:39 PM, said:

Yes, because nobody goes to college from the area public schools. Nor do any go on to play college football.

If you're dedicated enough in your academics, you will succeed anywhere. If you're good enough to play college football, scouts will find you anywhere.

This.

[Bluetiger76]

Rd2Glory, on 25 June 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:

By no means would they dominate in the MAC, but I do think they could compete and finish anywhere from 1st - 5th in any given year (5th place isn't so bad when the teams ahead of you are Coldwater/DSJ/St. Henry/Marion Local/Versailles/Minster/etc.)

I would tend to agree with this Rd2.

[clutch]

brunowball, on 25 June 2013 - 10:39 PM, said:

Yes, because nobody goes to college from the area public schools. Nor do any go on to play college football.

If you're dedicated enough in your academics, you will succeed anywhere. If you're good enough to play college football, scouts will find you anywhere.

Were we not talking about lima senior?

[dw629]

clutch, on 26 June 2013 - 07:59 AM, said:

Were we not talking about lima senior?

what about Lima Senior? Kids do not go on to play college football there?

[dw629]

Rd2Glory, on 25 June 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:

If you go all the way back to 2002, LCC probably has a pretty pedestrian record against the NWC as well. LCC was bad for a number of years until 2005 (2-8 record in 2004 and 11-2 record in 2005). Since 2005, LCC's record against the MAC is 6-4:

vs. DSJ: 3-3
vs. St. Henry: 1-1
vs. Anna: 1-0
vs. Versailles: 1-0

By no means would they dominate in the MAC, but I do think they could compete and finish anywhere from 1st - 5th in any given year (5th place isn't so bad when the teams ahead of you are Coldwater/DSJ/St. Henry/Marion Local/Versailles/Minster/etc.)

Give me an example of 1 time over the past 25 years that they could've won the MAC? If you're saying they could finish 1st there needs to be an example over time that they have fielded a team who could of won the conference.

[Rd2Glory]

dw629, on 26 June 2013 - 10:21 AM, said:

Give me an example of 1 time over the past 25 years that they could've won the MAC? If you're saying they could finish 1st there needs to be an example over time that they have fielded a team who could of won the conference.

Well, saying I think they could compete in that upper echelon of MAC teams is not the same as saying "they for sure would have won the MAC in a year XXXX." If LCC was in the MAC the last 25 years, they might have 0 MAC championships, but that doesn't mean they couldn't compete with those top teams. However, to play along with your game, in 2005 LCC went 3-0 against the MAC (St. Henry, Anna, and Versailles) and Versailles finished second in the league (one loss to Coldwater 31-21), so I don't think it's far fetched to suggest LCC could have competed for the top spot that year. I think an argument could also be made pretty easily for 2011, when LCC beat DSJ 21-14, and DSJ only had one regular season loss in the MAC (17-14 vs. Coldwater). I realize this is the transitive property and isn't really applicable in sports, but I'm not really sure how else you would like me to make a case?

[Obed]

brunowball, on 25 June 2013 - 10:39 PM, said:

If you're dedicated enough in your academics, you will succeed anywhere. If you're good enough to play college football, scouts will find you anywhere.

TRUTH!!!!!

clutch, on 26 June 2013 - 07:59 AM, said:

Were we not talking about lima senior?

lots of kids from LSH play on Saturdays...this upcoming collegate season will see season: Brooklyn Shurelds (Milford), Jarrod Pughsley (Akron), Michael Fischer (Mt Union), Trent Wise and David Henderson (Bluffton) and that's just off the top of my head. Like Brunow said...scouts will find you no matter how many L's you take

or in other words...

dw629, on 26 June 2013 - 10:18 AM, said:

what about Lima Senior? Kids do not go on to play college football there?