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[osufan512]

Not that I want any part of this p*ssing match going on but for the record, this is LCC last season as a member of the nwc. Their schedule for next year looks like this:

Lima Bath
Delphos St. John's
Marion Pleasant
Columbus Grove
Delphos Jefferson (heard rumor DJ wants out though)
Spencerville
London (1 year deal, then playing Bryan)
Bluffton
Allen East
Ada
- Ready didn't resign LCC for week 7 next year but I believe they will be returning to the schedule somewhere in 2014.

[BlueJay]

osufan512, on 12 October 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Delphos St. John's
Marion Pleasant
Columbus Grove
Delphos Jefferson (heard rumor DJ wants out though)
Spencerville
Ada

Only teams that will maybe be a challenge for the Tbirds. Dont know about London. Hopefully it bulks up a bit more

Edited by BlueJay, 12 October 2012 - 10:45 PM.

[Kennedy]

clutch, on 12 October 2012 - 10:38 PM, said:

they beat us last ear

Talk about an understatement

[clutch]

Kennedy, on 12 October 2012 - 10:45 PM, said:

Talk about an understatement

Ok

[Kennedy]

clutch, on 12 October 2012 - 10:48 PM, said:

Ok

Cooper can't win the big one.

[slice slice baby]

jeffcat-bucki, on 12 October 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

Personally, I enjoy watching the 2 most arrogant fanbases banter amongst each other.

we certainly don't want to bring in conferences as a whole.......

[osufan512]

Kennedy, on 12 October 2012 - 10:53 PM, said:

Cooper can't win the big one.

2003 Division VI State Championship game?

[BlueJay]

osufan512, on 12 October 2012 - 11:08 PM, said:

2003 Division VI State Championship game?

I think he was talking with LCC. I don't know

[jeffcat-bucki]

osufan512, on 12 October 2012 - 11:08 PM, said:

2003 Division VI State Championship game?

I don't want to take anything away from that team, but it's not like there was a lot of "coaching" involved. That team lived and died on the tackle trap with the Maag kid. They ran that single play more than any team I think I've ever seen play the game and executed it well, but it's not like it takes a real skilled coach to illustrate how the tackle trap is run.

Likewise, D5 is a totally different animal than D6. Marion Local and St. Henry are the only 2 teams off the top of my head that have managed to win state in both divisions and both barely at that.

[Kennedy]

osufan512, on 12 October 2012 - 11:08 PM, said:

2003 Division VI State Championship game?

Magg won that one, not cooper. What'd he go for 300 in the final?

[BlueJay]

jeffcat-bucki, on 12 October 2012 - 11:18 PM, said:

I don't want to take anything away from that team, but it's not like there was a lot of "coaching" involved. That team lived and died on the tackle trap with the Maag kid. They ran that single play more than any team I think I've ever seen play the game and executed it well, but it's not like it takes a real skilled coach to illustrate how the tackle trap is run.

Likewise, D5 is a totally different animal than D6. Marion Local and St. Henry are the only 2 teams off the top of my head that have managed to win state in both divisions and both barely at that.

Big old eye roll.

[jeffcat-bucki]

BlueJay, on 12 October 2012 - 11:48 PM, said:

Big old eye roll.

Youngstown Ursuline would prove otherwise. Ursuline's(Kirtland and Coldwater too) entire playoff run would be a replica of Shadyside every week if they were in D6. To make matters worse, there are a far larger number of quality teams in D5, as opposed to D6, where you can count them on 1 hand. It really isn't even a close comparison and the gap is quite large. Even DSJ never won state while they were in D5. Personally, I still don't think Coldwater will win state this year in D5, and look at what they did to D6 DSJ and Marion Local...they won by a combined score of what?...65-6 in those 2 games. Enough said.

[jeffcat-bucki]

Kennedy, on 12 October 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

Magg won that one, not cooper. What'd he go for 300 in the final?

I don't want to sell that team completely short. They had a lot of nice athletes outside of Maag, but they weren't exactly anybody that you would really drop your jaw at. They were a group that executed well and worked out for their given positions.

[BlueJay]

jeffcat-bucki, on 13 October 2012 - 12:42 AM, said:

Youngstown Ursuline would prove otherwise. Ursuline's(Kirtland and Coldwater too) entire playoff run would be a replica of Shadyside every week if they were in D6. To make matters worse, there are a far larger number of quality teams in D5, as opposed to D6, where you can count them on 1 hand. It really isn't even a close comparison and the gap is quite large. Even DSJ never won state while they were in D5. Personally, I still don't think Coldwater will win state this year in D5, and look at what they did to D6 DSJ and Marion Local...they won by a combined score of what?...65-6 in those 2 games. Enough said.

Wow. DSJ didn't win state when they were in D5...which was what? 3 seasons? Marion Local, a school who bounces from D5 and D6, beat Ursuline. Had that ML team been in D6 that year you would have said "Ursuline would crush this ML team. Look what they've done to (team name here). ML would be clownstomped simply because they are D6."

[Rd2Glory]

BlueJay, on 12 October 2012 - 07:05 PM, said:

Is that not what you're doing? Using common opponents? DSJ beat them by 20. Marion Local would have beat them. Coldwater would have been a decent game to watch. Anna probably would have beat them in the regular season.

It's exactly what I'm doing. While I believe it to be flawed logic, you do not. So, going by your logic of Team A is better than Team B because they did better against Team C, you shouldn't believe anything you're saying.

I'm not really interested in arguing about who would win theoretical matchups from 2 years ago though, so you can go ahead and get your last word in and I'll leave it at that.

[jeffcat-bucki]

BlueJay, on 13 October 2012 - 12:51 AM, said:

Wow. DSJ didn't win state when they were in D5...which was what? 3 seasons? Marion Local, a school who bounces from D5 and D6, beat Ursuline. Had that ML team been in D6 that year you would have said "Ursuline would crush this ML team. Look what they've done to (team name here). ML would be clownstomped simply because they are D6."

ML beating Ursuline that year was a big upset. With that being said, Ursuline's program was "turning the corner" in terms of getting back. The following seasons Ursuline teams were much better and you will be hard pressed to find any logical person that thinks the Ursuline team that was beat by ML was better or just as good as the teams that followed up after that. A lot of the Ursuline folks would even refer to the time period from the D4 title over Coldwater to the D5 titles as their 2nd coming and revamping of the program as they weren't really relevant in the state up until that point.

[Rd2Glory]

Kennedy, on 12 October 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

6-4 in 10 games agaisnt MAC schools. Thats painfully average. Definitley not capable of a 7-3 regular season with a full MAC schedule. I rest my case.

8 of those 10 games were against MAC teams that were in the playoffs or would later make the playoffs. I think it's safe to say that if they have a .500+ winning pct against the top teams in the MAC, they'd do better than 7-3 once a decade and only if the season was a fluke, as you stated.

[CaTTT]

GATA, on 09 October 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

CaTTT is an LCC graduate from last year and he couldn't care less about LCC athletics. He was a star on the CYO team lol

preciate the kind words, but no one likes a copyCaTTT. Don't use my name in Spanish, whoever you are.

[CaTTT]

Kennedy, on 12 October 2012 - 10:11 PM, said:

Awwhhhh... Still sensitive about that one?

No, just don't need you trolling my discussion post

[Kennedy]

Rd2Glory, on 13 October 2012 - 01:18 AM, said:

8 of those 10 games were against MAC teams that were in the playoffs or would later make the playoffs. I think it's safe to say that if they have a .500+ winning pct against the top teams in the MAC, they'd do better than 7-3 once a decade and only if the season was a fluke, as you stated.

Ok, so assuming they beat the 2 MAC teams that didn't make the playoffs that's still only 4-4 against any combination of St. Henry, Versailles, Coldwater, DSJ, ML, St. Henry, Anna, and Minster.

So if they were to play a MAC schedule they would have to win both non-con. games, parkway, ft. recovery, new bremen ( assuming they play all three) and only lose to three of the above teams? It wouldn't happen.