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[BlueJay]

clutch, on 25 August 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

I don't think they will be surprised this year. They know they have a TON to work on...that was an ugly game.

Anything can happen in the D5 playoffs here, as demonstrated last year.

This team doesn't look as good as last year's.

[Bobby]

I'll ditto the "ugly game" remark. Both teams made numerous mistakes and were wildy inconsistent. I'm curious to hear what LCC fans thought of the fake punt on 4th and 17 deep in their own end. I think it surprised everybody!

[clutch]

Bobby, on 25 August 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:

I'll ditto the "ugly game" remark. Both teams made numerous mistakes and were wildy inconsistent. I'm curious to hear what LCC fans thought of the fake punt on 4th and 17 deep in their own end. I think it surprised everybody!

Fake punt was not the play called.

[clutch]

BlueJay, on 25 August 2012 - 10:33 PM, said:

Anything can happen in the D5 playoffs here, as demonstrated last year.

This team doesn't look as good as last year's.

I'm not saying we wont/ can't lose, I'm saying we won't be surprised by anyone.

[Hound Dog]

clutch, on 25 August 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

Fake punt was not the play called.

So a third year player just decided to take off and run with the ball on 4th down....

[jeffcat-bucki]

clutch, on 25 August 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

Fake punt was not the play called.

It sure looked like a called play from my vantage point.

EDIT: I'm referring to the DSJ fake punt, not the LCC fake punt.

The LCC punt was actually a bad snap and the player panicked and ran with it. He probably could have kicked it, but just ran after he picked up the bad snap.

Edited by jeffcat-bucki, 26 August 2012 - 12:31 AM.

[jeffcat-bucki]

This game was a pretty boring game to watch. Not because of the teams or talent on the field, but because of the wildly erratic play and total ineptness of both teams to execute. For those watching the replay of it, it should be fairly apparent. I think LCC and DSJ both have enough talent to iron out the issues they have, but based on what I saw tonight, there is A LOT to work on. LCC struggled just getting hand offs and the RBs were running right into the QB. Their snaps are on the absolute fringe of being a false start every single time because the entire team is moving to one side or the other before the ball is even snapped.

DSJ had 2 EASY TD passes just flat out dropped, and LCC's QB was on cloud nine passing. I remember one point before half I believe where he had a WR just standing down field with nobody within AT LEAST 10-15 yards of him and the QB still missed him down the field on what more than likely would have been an easy TD too. The Huffman kid managed to make some plays simply by improvising more than actual play design.

Cooper must think he is Kenton or something since he has decided to go for 2 every time he scores and kicked an onside kick too. Why?...I have no clue, because that offense isn't anywhere remotely close to what a Kenton or Coldwater runs. I thought maybe their FG kicker was just THAT bad up until they actually lined up to try a legitimate FG and realized he was just pulling a "Kenton". That idiocy was readily apparent on their last score when he tried to go for 2 instead of 1 and didn't get it, making the door open for DSJ to win if they just got 6 points off of a TD.

DSJ's Boggs at QB has a nice arm, but when it comes game time, he sees a lot of things that aren't there and gets indecisive. Granted, I will give him credit since LCC does have a good secondary, but he does this in other games too.

Both these teams are a far cry from last year's squads(as of right now). As long as DSJ wins enough games to get into the playoffs in D6, they should be fine until they run into another MAC school or the upper echelon of D6, but LCC has some real problems across the board that need addressed otherwise they can expect an absolute thrashing if they try to take their "race to the sideline" mentality to the D5 playoffs. As a side note, Washington needs to stop holding the ball like he is getting ready to hand it off on the 4x100 team. The bright side is DSJ is in D6, so they should fair well if they get in, and LCC still has a lot of speed if they can utilize it properly. Putting one of your fastest players that essentially looks like Ted Ginn at DE is not one of those ways. One of Ursuline's OT's will put him on a stretcher on the first play of the game.

[BlueJay]

jeffcat-bucki, on 26 August 2012 - 12:24 AM, said:

As long as DSJ wins enough games to get into the playoffs in D6, they should be fine until they run into another MAC school or the upper echelon of D6, but LCC has some real problems across the board that need addressed otherwise they can expect an absolute thrashing if they try to take their "race to the sideline" mentality to the D5 playoffs. As a side note, Washington needs to stop holding the ball like he is getting ready to hand it off on the 4x100 team. The bright side is DSJ is in D6, so they should fair well if they get in, and LCC still has a lot of speed if they can utilize it properly. Putting one of your fastest players that essentially looks like Ted Ginn at DE is not one of those ways. One of Ursuline's OT's will put him on a stretcher on the first play of the game.

That's exactly what I was referring to. All this hype that I have read about this team being "LCC's most athletic squad ever" "Just as good as last year" etc. was just....I can't. This LCC team will need some MAJOR adjustments if they want to go deep in the playoffs.

DSJ will be fine because their region isn't very strong other than McComb, really. I think Boggs will find his niche at the QB position in time, as he's not use to playing it 100% of the time. He will grow and I actually see quite the potential in him. This DSJ team is capable of some pretty great things. Will they achieve them? Maybe. Only time will tell.

[ADog]

clutch, on 25 August 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

Fake punt was not the play called.

Clutch, that was not a fake punt for LCC? From my vantage point, it looked like a good snap and he took off immediatley running to get around the end. If was not a called fake and the punter ran this on his own thats crazy.2nd point: why the different punter at that point if a fake was not called. Asking seriously not being an ass. Is he a better long punter and he was in at that spot on the field for that? Just looked like a fake ( I was thinking it was before the snap because of different punter than I thought was in earlier) Any way agree with others I was surprised how sluggish both teams looked but think some of that can be attributed to the hot muggy conditions.

Good win Birds

edit: St Johns and Delphos area...field looked GREAT tonight. even though tonight was probably the 1st game on that surface this year..it looked absolutely great Has to be the best condition I have ever seen this field..nice job on the field and stadium itself

Edited by ADog, 26 August 2012 - 04:12 AM.

[clutch]

Hound Dog, on 26 August 2012 - 12:06 AM, said:

So a third year player just decided to take off and run with the ball on 4th down....

Was supposed to be a rugby style punt, not a run, not an option....PUNT.

[clutch]

jeffcat-bucki, on 26 August 2012 - 12:24 AM, said:

This game was a pretty boring game to watch. Not because of the teams or talent on the field, but because of the wildly erratic play and total ineptness of both teams to execute. For those watching the replay of it, it should be fairly apparent. I think LCC and DSJ both have enough talent to iron out the issues they have, but based on what I saw tonight, there is A LOT to work on. LCC struggled just getting hand offs and the RBs were running right into the QB. Their snaps are on the absolute fringe of being a false start every single time because the entire team is moving to one side or the other before the ball is even snapped.

DSJ had 2 EASY TD passes just flat out dropped, and LCC's QB was on cloud nine passing. I remember one point before half I believe where he had a WR just standing down field with nobody within AT LEAST 10-15 yards of him and the QB still missed him down the field on what more than likely would have been an easy TD too. The Huffman kid managed to make some plays simply by improvising more than actual play design.

Cooper must think he is Kenton or something since he has decided to go for 2 every time he scores and kicked an onside kick too. Why?...I have no clue, because that offense isn't anywhere remotely close to what a Kenton or Coldwater runs. I thought maybe their FG kicker was just THAT bad up until they actually lined up to try a legitimate FG and realized he was just pulling a "Kenton". That idiocy was readily apparent on their last score when he tried to go for 2 instead of 1 and didn't get it, making the door open for DSJ to win if they just got 6 points off of a TD.

DSJ's Boggs at QB has a nice arm, but when it comes game time, he sees a lot of things that aren't there and gets indecisive. Granted, I will give him credit since LCC does have a good secondary, but he does this in other games too.

Both these teams are a far cry from last year's squads(as of right now). As long as DSJ wins enough games to get into the playoffs in D6, they should be fine until they run into another MAC school or the upper echelon of D6, but LCC has some real problems across the board that need addressed otherwise they can expect an absolute thrashing if they try to take their "race to the sideline" mentality to the D5 playoffs. As a side note, Washington needs to stop holding the ball like he is getting ready to hand it off on the 4x100 team. The bright side is DSJ is in D6, so they should fair well if they get in, and LCC still has a lot of speed if they can utilize it properly. Putting one of your fastest players that essentially looks like Ted Ginn at DE is not one of those ways. One of Ursuline's OT's will put him on a stretcher on the first play of the game.

LCCs kicker is out with a broken ankle and have been struggling to make xps in his absense, which is why we were going for two.

[ADog]

clutch, on 26 August 2012 - 04:10 AM, said:

Was supposed to be a rugby style punt, not a run, not an option....PUNT.

ok that explains the different punter.....thx

[clutch]

BlueJay, on 26 August 2012 - 02:20 AM, said:

That's exactly what I was referring to. All this hype that I have read about this team being "LCC's most athletic squad ever" "Just as good as last year" etc. was just....I can't. This LCC team will need some MAJOR adjustments if they want to go deep in the playoffs.

DSJ will be fine because their region isn't very strong other than McComb, really. I think Boggs will find his niche at the QB position in time, as he's not use to playing it 100% of the time. He will grow and I actually see quite the potential in him. This DSJ team is capable of some pretty great things. Will they achieve them? Maybe. Only time will tell.

You don't agree LCC is extremely athletic? Who said as good as last year? I just love how every year after this game when delphos wins its "I told you LCC couldn't handle us, they're way overrated, they got outcoached blah blah". When lcc wins its "delphos will be fine, lcc is overrated, they weren't even that athletic."
You were beat by a better team.....period.

[clutch]

ADog, on 26 August 2012 - 04:14 AM, said:

ok that explains the different punter.....thx

Rogers was in for a rugby punt and made a pretty bad decision....

[ADog]

Yea now that you say that...the defenders broke on him real quick and he probably did not think he had time to get the squibkick off in time...makes sense ....

[osufan512]

Rogers is the LCC punter. He was trying a rugby punt and made a bad decision. This was not a fake punt. Also, Rogers is not just the rugby punter, he's the punter. He went down with cramps 2 plays before they had to punt the next time so Colin Stolly (the back up punter) punted the rest of the game. Not sure I understand everyone's confusion on this.

Also, no LCC doesn't think they're Kenton. Just as someone above pointed out, O'Dowd, the kicker, has a broken ankle and is out at least until week 7 or so from what I have been told. Now, where I struggle is the play calling on those 2 point conversions. Pass plays? They struggled passing the ball all night for the most part and they were trying it from the 3? That also didn't make a lot of sense.

Talked to a player after the game about the onside and I don't think that was meant to happen either. I am pretty sure that it was supposed to be a squib and didn't execute the play call.

I think you have to hand it to LCCs defense. You can talk about the inability for Delphos to score in LCC territory but give that defense credit. They rose the occasion several different times to keep the Jays out of the end zone. I take my hat off to that side of the ball.

LCC will be alright and will probably roll through the remainder or their schedule. I just hope that actually improve this year from game 1 to game 11 and not stay stagnant like they did last season. I see DSJ having the same kind of season as last season 7-3 or 8-2 and they will get into the playoffs and make a return trip to the semis. We will see what happens from there.

[BlueJay]

clutch, on 26 August 2012 - 04:18 AM, said:

You don't agree LCC is extremely athletic? Who said as good as last year? I just love how every year after this game when delphos wins its "I told you LCC couldn't handle us, they're way overrated, they got outcoached blah blah". When lcc wins its "delphos will be fine, lcc is overrated, they weren't even that athletic."
You were beat by a better team.....period.

Because we hear every year how LCC is going to be a team full of world beaters, their best team in school history, etc. and DSJ hasn't been that way in 2 years. When have I said LCC couldn't handle us? When we beat you 20-0? Or when we beat you 34-14? Maybe I said that when we beat you by 3 scores when you returned half of your team, not when we squeaked out two wins in a row against a HIGHLY inexperienced team.

Edited by BlueJay, 26 August 2012 - 08:20 AM.

[clutch]

BlueJay, on 26 August 2012 - 08:19 AM, said:

Because we hear every year how LCC is going to be a team full of world beaters, their best team in school history, etc. and DSJ hasn't been that way in 2 years. When have I said LCC couldn't handle us? When we beat you 20-0? Or when we beat you 34-14? Maybe I said that when we beat you by 3 scores when you returned half of your team, not when we squeaked out two wins in a row against a HIGHLY inexperienced team.

Who said world beaters or best team we've ever had? Lol I made a bet with a delphos fan last night that we wouldn't score more than 21 and wouldn't win by more then 7. Give credit where credit is due...lcc WON the game whether it be by 6 or 36, a win is a win. Oh and to clarify, the "best team we ever had" was probably two years ago so if you heard people say that two years ago, they were pretty accurate.

[Rd2Glory]

BlueJay, on 26 August 2012 - 08:19 AM, said:

Because we hear every year how LCC is going to be a team full of world beaters, their best team in school history, etc. and DSJ hasn't been that way in 2 years. When have I said LCC couldn't handle us? When we beat you 20-0? Or when we beat you 34-14? Maybe I said that when we beat you by 3 scores when you returned half of your team, not when we squeaked out two wins in a row against a HIGHLY inexperienced team.

No one ever said this team was "full of world beaters" or "the best team in school history."

You sound a little bitter.

[doslobos]

If you say anything positive about LCC, regardless of how accurate, it's construed to mean that you think they are the Patriots and nobody can touch them.

You'd think DSJ fans would understand, but I guess getting their stud stuffed at the line in the Red Zone so regularly, combined with the inability to stop Washington or Huffman when it mattered even has them looking for excuses. After LB last year and Tinora three years ago, us LCC fans overstand all too well just how demoralizing it can be when you can't stop a team from running down your throat when you need the ball back.

These teams will be just fine.

Also, while Washington and Huffman probably were the best players on the field, Lasenby certainly could have made claim to that last night as well. Without him at LB, DSJ scores on at least two more trips.

Edited by doslobos, 26 August 2012 - 10:27 AM.