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[Rocketman]

BTW...... Did this meeting happen for sure? And did it happen?

[titanman01]

Ihatesoccer, on 16 March 2012 - 12:02 PM, said:

Have you played for her ? then you dont know!!!

Have you????

[bennyg]

Rocketman, on 16 March 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

BTW...... Did this meeting happen for sure? And did it happen?

Yes it did. She wants to stay, but some of the parents (mostly freshman) want her gone. They don't like the way she disiplines their girls apparently. A coach is supposed to disipline the players in order to gain their respect and build their character. With the parents constantly coaching their daughters from the bleachers and at home, Lori doesn't stand a chance of gaining any form of respect from the girls. What's going to happen when these girls get out into the real world and get stuck in a job with a boss they don't like? Are mommy and daddy going to complain to the company CEO and get the manager fired in order for their kids to get a boss they like better? I don't think so. If they go on to play college ball are the parents going to try to run that coach out too if their daughter sits the bench? It's high school basketball. Lori dedicates her heart and time to that program and doesn't expect a single thank you in return. All she asks is that the girls play and try their hardest. Parent's have been complaining about her for years and it still amazes me. I don't see Greg Mauk losing his job for the way he disiplines and treats his players. Those Bath girls are VERY disiplined, which explains why they do so well every year. Tyson McGlaughlin is still at OG as well. His boys got beat by 20 at the beginning of the season and he took away their practice jerseys and locked up the locker room. They played shirts and skins and changed in the bathrooms until they proved themselves worthy of playing Titan basketball. He yells and screams at the boys. Where are the complaints about him? Oh wait that's right, girls are too delicate to be yelled at and disiplined. Toughen up, life only gets harder as you get older. These girls need a coach like Lori. In my opinion I think these four parents are pretty full of themselves already , hope they're happy with whatever the decision is going to be. Karma karma karma...

Edited by bennyg, 16 March 2012 - 06:47 PM.

[hsbball419]

Ihatesoccer, on 16 March 2012 - 12:02 PM, said:

Have you played for her ? then you dont know!!!

I personally played under Smith for 4 years. She is passionate about what she does. Being a coach is a thankless job and Lori does it with pride. I can honestly say I left OGHS with a chunk of my butt on that court with how many times she chewed me out for stupid mistakes. I would go home and whine to my parents about she yelled at me for this and that and always told me that if she didn't care she wouldn't be yelling. Listen to what she is saying, not how she is saying it. I've been in the locker room behind the scenes, I've been to the practices where she makes us run out butts off. I've heard what was said and have seen what has been done. She does these things out of pure passion. Name a single coach in college that's not going to let some language slip in the heat of the moment, throw down a clip board, or stomp a foot..and these parents who think their daughters are all stars going D1? GOOD LUCK!.. Lori has played the game, she knows what she is talking about and I truely believe that she is responsible for her actions, but the parents need to butt out and deal with it. That woman made me a better player & pushed me to be a college athlete. Belive me when I say, you'll miss her as a coach one day...

Rocketman, on 16 March 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:

I am sure you can find many who like playing for the current coach

You would be utterly surprised at the number of girls who played for her that STILL talk about how great the experience was with her as a coach, she was so much more than that...these newbies just need to grow up and deal with it, shut up and play, or get off the court.

[hsbball419]

Landess, on 16 March 2012 - 10:02 PM, said:

If she got results it would be a different story. She plays kids out of position like its her job lol. Those coaches that were mentioned above know how to get results from the kids. She appears unable to convey what she wants and unable to connect with her players.

You're trying to say having a team of predominately freshman and sophomores and having seven wins are not successful results? They're freshmen, they aren't set in any positions yet (trust it from someone who went from a point guard to a post to a shooting guard in different levels of basketball play up and all the way through college) You personally may think "susie" should be a point guard when in all reality she could be a really good shooter or a post. All positions are interchangable, a really good player can play any position on the court...is that not correct? And honestly, I don't expect her to get results with a group like she had. Mom and Dad are telling them not to listen to her, so what makes anyone think shes going to listen to Lori's plans for the game? Maybe if they turn off the eyes to the bleachers on every play they could get more acomplished.

Edited by hsbball419, 16 March 2012 - 10:22 PM.

[Luvu2]

well now I've heard it all. last night it was told that one of the parents has made some sort of a power point presentation that was viewed by the superintendent? and that he said that he will take this to the school board? here I thought all year when they were filming games that they were doing this to show colleges what type of player they were. seems to find out that they were filming the coach during the games to see what she was doing wrong. this seems crazy to me but I heard it from someone who actually viewed this power point thing. I don't have any idea why the coach would even want to stay with all the "support" she's getting from these parents. pitiful

[flounder]

Not a OG fan, but from what I have just read, their fans(parents) are very similar to fans(parents) everywhere....it's all about their little (Susie)....omg people.......grow up...your daughter is not good enough to go D1....this is high school, and these girls need discipline if they are going to grow.........my god, if I was Coach Smith, I wouldn't give those parents the opportunity to fire me.....I would resign and move on.....believe me, from what I have seen of Smith, she will get hired by someone......someone who is appreciative.....please parents...read the posts above from players who have played for her......they cannot all be wrong.....and what a bunch of bs filming the coach....downright pathetic, and not a real good image to portray for the OG community!!!!!

Parents who think their children are better than they are, are becoming the norm in high school athletics.......it is killing high school sports....it is no wonder the good coaches are not sticking around.....cannot blame them!!!

[hsbball419]

Filming the coach in order to create a powerpoint presentation for the school board? THAT IS PATHETIC! I hope Lori resigns herself, these parents are acting so juvenile about everything. I don't care what anyone says about Lori, I will never have anything bad to say about that woman.

Landess, on 17 March 2012 - 11:35 AM, said:

Why is everyone just assuming the coach didn't act inappropriately?

Why do you keep commenting on how innappropriate she is acting? I have to ask, were you in the locker room or do you know someone who wants her job?....pathetic

Edited by hsbball419, 17 March 2012 - 01:03 PM.

[hsbball419]

If they really want to make a powerpoint why don't they put the good points of those videos on there too. How about when she was consoling a nervous crying freshman on the bench against St.Mary's? This certain freshman went into the game nervous and made a few mistakes. Lori pulled her out and she began crying on the bench. Lori turned around and had nothing but positive things to say to her like "You're doing fine you just need to relax" and telling her what she needs to do, correcting her mistakes to make her a better player. Don't sit here and say how horrible of a coach she is when all these parents really want is her job. Everyone else knows the capability these girls are going to have once they mature a year or so. All these wannabe coaches care about is stepping in to take the credit for it and eventually the well will run dry again and another coach will get run out. Same story different day. Lori is a tremendous person with nothing but a caring and compassionate personality. She loves the game and is passionate about what she does.

Edited by hsbball419, 17 March 2012 - 12:14 PM.

[flounder]

Landess, on 17 March 2012 - 11:35 AM, said:

Why is everyone just assuming the coach didn't act inappropriately?

I am assuming she is a good coach because I know what today's parents are like......it started about 15 years ago and has gotten progressively worse to the point where it is ruining high school athletics.....it actually sickens me to watch these parents make fools of themselves.....many times I have seen players look into the stands at their parents hoping they have won their approval.....that isn't what high sports is meant to be!!!!

[flounder]

Landess, on 17 March 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

If a male coach called girls p****** and a**holes he would have been fired.

Actually Landess, I don't think they would....believe me, when I say that happens in some schools.....trouble today is what is going on in the good ol USA......we are becoming a nation of "wussies'.......no one wants to be held accountable and it's always someone else's fault........come on America....let's toughen up and get our pride back.....it's going to be tough when we as a country put clowns in office who are way to liberal......anybody got a hand out for me....sheeeeesh.....other than that, I am enjoying life.....I still have my freedom!!!!!

[Bobby]

flounder, on 17 March 2012 - 09:53 AM, said:

Parents who think their children are better than they are, are becoming the norm in high school athletics.......it is killing high school sports....it is no wonder the good coaches are not sticking around.....cannot blame them!!!

Disagree. There are some that way but to say it's the norm is a huge insult to all the great parents who support their kids AND their coaches. There are many, many good parents out there and I know a lot of them.

[flounder]

Reread....I said parents who think their children are better than they are......true, not all parents feel that way....but, the one's who feel their child is talented always seem to have a major problem reading that talent......it goes on everywhere, and although you are right that it might not be the norm, it has become such a problem that most coaches are tired of it and want to get out of coaching....just how many coaches do you think stick it out Bobby......we are from DSJ, and really do not see what is happening in the major cities....heck Bobby.....we have had that problem at DSJ, and although the majority were behind the coaches, that few that weren't could make it awful tough!!!!

[Bobby]

Are parents the reason coaches get out? Or is it that high school sports are now 24/7, 365? I think there are a number of reasons coaches don't coach for 20 years and every situation is very different.

[flounder]

Well Bobby, parents aren't the whole reason, but I had kids play, and I know it wasn't as bad then...heck, in Arn's day, he never worried about parents, but did comment that many other coaches had problems with parents......I hear it all the time in this day and age that coaching would be a pleasure if it was not for the parents.....I have heard many coaches express this!!!!