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[polkhigh33]

As far as I know Tiffin Calvert has responded positively.

[Buckshot]

davidson33, on 11 March 2012 - 11:24 AM, said:

I had also been told that like CG, Elmwood, Mohawk and Carey, that Ada wasn't interested. Can't verify that, though. Will be interesting.

D33 has some pretty good sources as well. It will be interesting to see how Ada responds. I heard they had given a verbal yes, but will wait to see that in writing. Not sure bluffton has any interest at this time.

[polkhigh33]

Now there is rumbling that Crestline will explore joining what's left of the Mid-Buckeye Conference along with Danville, Lucas, Mansfield St. Peter, Loudonville and Mansfield Christian. Of course, this would put them in a pickle for football. To me, it's crazy to give up a guaranteed schedule and gates with the N-whatever (8,9 or 10).

[veteranlefty]

With March 16th being the deadline I would think the BVC will want to move on this if they really are interested in expansion so the teams can give notice to their leagues before this school year is over. I too will be shocked if Hopewell and Riverdale are not included if they expand. NB would be one to toss in to appease the smaller schools then find another to make it an even 4 teams. It will be interesting to see this unfold. BVC needs to be proactive....MAL wishes it had allowed Elmwood and Gburg into their league a few years ago now, huh?

[PostPlayer]

bvcrulz, on 10 March 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

I hope my Red Devil Adminstrators keep the big picture in focus in this process. I hate hearing that we are "against" expansion. The BVC being proactive and adding teams now, when we can control who it is and how they fit makes PERFECT SENSE. Look at the MAL and how that hole league is in chaos because three defected and left the rest to fend for themselves. Adding 4 teams makes perfect sense---Riverdale, NB, H-L and....Elmwood/CG/Bluffton/Ada would all be great fits IMHO.

Maybe someone should contact Dennis Martin to spearhead this!

No clue why anyone would support NB joining the BVC. They bring absolutely nothing to the table. I cannot remember one strong team they have had in years, not too mention the worst athletic facilities in the area (for now). May as well add a team from the NWCC if your liking NB. The idea isn't to cater to the Vanlue's and HN's...its to cater to the competitive teams like LB, McComb, ARlington and Leipsic.

[thefoozball]

PostPlayer, on 12 March 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

No clue why anyone would support NB joining the BVC. They bring absolutely nothing to the table. I cannot remember one strong team they have had in years, not too mention the worst athletic facilities in the area (for now). May as well add a team from the NWCC if your liking NB. The idea isn't to cater to the Vanlue's and HN's...its to cater to the competitive teams like LB, McComb, ARlington and Leipsic.

Not Arlington, they are afraid of the competition that strengthing the league will bring. Did you read the article from a former coach, basically if we add more teams it is harder to win a league title, wow!!!!

[DirtyPBear76]

PostPlayer, on 12 March 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

No clue why anyone would support NB joining the BVC. They bring absolutely nothing to the table. I cannot remember one strong team they have had in years, not too mention the worst athletic facilities in the area (for now). May as well add a team from the NWCC if your liking NB. The idea isn't to cater to the Vanlue's and HN's...its to cater to the competitive teams like LB, McComb, ARlington and Leipsic.

I do believe that NB was not really one of interest from the BVC because of facilities. Also what do you mean cater to HN and Vanlues? Last I checked HN has decent facilities including a new gym.

[falconfan84]

PostPlayer, on 12 March 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

No clue why anyone would support NB joining the BVC. They bring absolutely nothing to the table. I cannot remember one strong team they have had in years, not too mention the worst athletic facilities in the area (for now). May as well add a team from the NWCC if your liking NB. The idea isn't to cater to the Vanlue's and HN's...its to cater to the competitive teams like LB, McComb, ARlington and Leipsic.

Why not consider Upper Scioto Valley...new school, nice gym, nice football field and track (could use more visitors stands), enthusiastic fans, and have a history of very successful basketball.

I hope to hear that the BVC will expand...BUT doubt it happens. I think there will be more talk than action (kind of like Arcadia and Vanlue merging). There's too much "old school" attitude in the Hancock County schools. I'm really, really hoping for some progressive, forward thinking from the powers that be, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

I think that Riverdale is actually in a great position. They have to be considered a team that would certainly be included in an invite IF the BVC does expand. If not, they are on track to reunite with a group of schools that represents 70% of the old NCC. If Crestline bolts for the MBC, the N10 could end up getting Elgin, another former NCC school. I think the N10 will still be a better situation for us than what we're currently in, but the prospect of joining the BVC would be something we should jump at, if given the chance.

If the BVC is serious about any kind of expansion, the time is NOW...when so many teams are in limbo.

[Buckshot]

falconfan84, on 12 March 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

If the BVC is serious about any kind of expansion, the time is NOW...when so many teams are in limbo.

It's apparent the BVC is dead serious about expansion. From the AD/principal meetings to the OK from the superintendants to proceed with the inquiries of interest. Was there ever another time when this kind of effort was put forth from the BVC?? What will be interesting is whether just a few schools can shoot down the expansion plans that is clearly supported by the majority of BVC schools

[veteranlefty]

How does the voting process work in the BVC....do they need 7 out of 10 votes to approve new schools to enter the league or a majority.

[Buckshot]

veteranlefty, on 13 March 2012 - 09:14 AM, said:

How does the voting process work in the BVC....do they need 7 out of 10 votes to approve new schools to enter the league or a majority.

It will take 8 yes votes out 10

[polkhigh33]

^{It will be interesting to see how the proposal will lay out - who would potentially get grouped with who.}

[Buckshot]

polkhigh33, on 13 March 2012 - 01:31 PM, said:

^{It will be interesting to see how the proposal will lay out - who would potentially get grouped with who.}

The divisions will not be based on big and small schools, nor will it be based on geographic East/West. Teams will be ranked through 1-14 based upon size and wins over the past 4 years. The divisions will then be grouped by odd numbers and even numbers. Thus in theory the divisions will be equal with good teams, average teams and below par teams. Every two years the divisions will be realigned based upon the size and success of the schools.

Edited by Buckshot, 13 March 2012 - 02:08 PM.

[veteranlefty]

Wow, according to Buckshot it sounds like the move to 14 teams may come up for a vote as the plan is already in place? Ok Buckshot, who are the 4 teams you see going up for a vote?

[polkhigh33]

Buckshot, on 13 March 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

The divisions will not be based on big and small schools, nor will it be based on geographic East/West. Teams will be ranked through 1-14 based upon size and wins over the past 4 years. The divisions will then be grouped by odd numbers and even numbers. Thus in theory the divisions will be equal with good teams, average teams and below par teams. Every two years the divisions will be realigned based upon the size and success of the schools.

That's an interesting way of doing things......do you think that makes it harder to get positive votes or do you think it won't matter since it will always be changing?

[falconfan84]

Buckshot, on 13 March 2012 - 07:25 AM, said:

It's apparent the BVC is dead serious about expansion. From the AD/principal meetings to the OK from the superintendants to proceed with the inquiries of interest. Was there ever another time when this kind of effort was put forth from the BVC?? What will be interesting is whether just a few schools can shoot down the expansion plans that is clearly supported by the majority of BVC schools

Clearly supported by the majority?...I hope so, but I'm not completely convinced. I believe it takes a 75% vote (meaning 8 schools) to vote new members in. I don't know if it takes the same percentage to vote members out, but if there is truly a majority of schools that feel that some other schools should be invited to the BVC, then couldn't these schools "choose" to leave the conference on their own accord if they are disappointed with how things are going? I believe this is pretty much what happened with the NCC becoming the N10.

I guess what I'm trying to say is...If only 3 schools are against expansion, couldn't the other 7 go out on their own and bring in maybe 5 to 7 schools to make it a 12 to 14 team league? I am not suggesting that this is the best option, but wouldn't it still BE an option?

Is the public going to find out about the surrounding schools interest, and the BVC's intentions soon after the 16th? At what point should we expect to hear anything?

[davidson33]

Remember, the information letters to the BVC only have to be postmarked-------by March 16th. It clearly could be until early next week when all have been received.

That said, schools can often get a lot of blow back from their bases on considered moves like this, so I would fully expect both Commissioner Butler and BVC to remain discreet. Doesn't help to create problems for schools that are seriously considering being a part of your conference.

As for the actual interview selection process, I believe the date for teams to come and present for the BVC is April 19th.

Edited by davidson33, 13 March 2012 - 08:54 PM.

[PHDigger]

I'm curious as to who everyone thinks is dying to join the BVC? Everyone can think of schools that they would like to see, but who would legitimately say ok? A division 6 heavy league is not exactly ideal. I'm guessing that when the list of possible teams is final, it may not seem like such a great idea after all.

[Buckshot]

veteranlefty, on 13 March 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

Wow, according to Buckshot it sounds like the move to 14 teams may come up for a vote as the plan is already in place? Ok Buckshot, who are the 4 teams you see going up for a vote?

The proposal for expansion was designed for four additional teams. They just have to be the right fit for the BVC. Taking two teams as part of expansion is a second option.

[effingA]

Not sure anyone is "dying" to join the BVC but it makes sense to explore your options. There is a climate of change in regards to conferences and IF one school leaves, does another follow? Do you want to be the last one left holding the bag? I would think schools would want to keep their options open.