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[milt73]

Simon Cezz, on 09 March 2012 - 07:01 AM, said:

So the "unbeatable" Ottoville girls go down ? I bet somewhere Jeff S is laughing his butt off.

And if he was, it would show how much class he has, or lack there of.

[Mysterio]

Simon Cezz, on 09 March 2012 - 07:01 AM, said:

So the "unbeatable" Ottoville girls go down ? I bet somewhere Jeff S is laughing his butt off.

Yup the unbeatable Ottoville girls suffered their first and only loss of the season where have you been in the last 10 hours?

No I doubt Jeff S is laughing his butt off and why would he? It's not like he was fired and forced to move out of Ottoville.

[PostPlayer]

Mysterio, on 09 March 2012 - 07:58 AM, said:

Not to take away anything from a hard fought game by Arlington. But I thought the difference was the amount of shots that just simply fell for Arlington. You yourself said your going to need some luck in order to advance each and every game. Arlington had 4 three pointers that either hit the backboard and went in, or had the lucky bounce (aka shooters bounce). Not to mention some unforced turnovers on Ottovilles part. And sometimes you just have nights like that when a few girls on one side is hitting all their shots. Boy were the officials awful though for both teams, probably one of the worst regional officiating games that I have seen in a while. In my mind I thought the momentum changer was the travel called on Koch when Ottoville was up by 3. Not a very good call and I noticed some Arlington fans were shocked and obviously the Otttoville fans not too happy and they have a right because it definitely changed the momentum. Either way it was a great game to watch and congrats to both teams.

Interesting b/c I thought for the most part the referees stayed out of the way in this one. Don't forget at one time in the 2nd half it was 7 fouls Arlington, 1 Ottoville before O'ville started fouling to get back into it late. The HUGE call that I thought was going to change the game was mid way thru 4th when the foul was called on Amelia Recker under the basket on Siefker for a push by the ref at HALFCOURT! THe two under the basket didn't call a thing, and man I was concerned that was going to swing the game the other way as Ottoville then scored on a layup to cut the lead. Huge play, but thankfully it didn't affect the outcome. Siefker could have also been called many times in the paint when Amelia went thru her to the basket, but no calls. I was okay with it really, would rather have them swallow whistle and let the kids dictate outcome than every touch foul being called. I know the point guard for O'ville was tired of Joy Reamsnyder doggin her all nigth too...in the 2nd half, she continued to lead with her off arm to maintain distance...a sign we have seen all year in second half of games when Joy has been locked on a point guard....it's tough to go thru that all night...

I thought Arlington played a near perfect game last night. WHen is the last time in a GIRLS game, you see a team have ZERO turnovers in a half?? Well, you did last night and it was Arlington with ZERO, and Ottoville with 9. You call them "unforced", but you know better than that. Defensive pressure all night leads to "unforced" turnovers....trust me. Give Arlington's defense some credit Mysterio...we did what we had to do to win. A couple of banked in 3's, HUGE rebounding effort against a dang college sized DIV girls team - bottom line - Arlington played harder and made plays; Klemen said it well in the paper.

Take nothing away from Ottoville - they played well and had a great year. Believe me, we know how it feels to think you have the best team in the state, be #1 and undefeated and then lose a heartbreaker. Ottoville was as good as advertised but on this night it wasn't meant to be.

Time to get on the Arlington bandwagon Mysterio! Welcome aboard...

[Bleeds Green & Gold]

milt73, on 09 March 2012 - 08:24 AM, said:

And if he was, it would show how much class he has, or lack there of.

I couldn't have said it better myself. Coaching high school basketball is not about the coach, it's about the girls. If a former couldn't be proud of the young ladies he helped get to this point then he shouldn't be coaching in the first place.

[Rocketman]

^^^^^^
Since flounder and I have been on the wagon all year So do we need to call for tickets?

[Mysterio]

PostPlayer, on 09 March 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

Interesting b/c I thought for the most part the referees stayed out of the way in this one. Don't forget at one time in the 2nd half it was 7 fouls Arlington, 1 Ottoville before O'ville started fouling to get back into it late. The HUGE call that I thought was going to change the game was mid way thru 4th when the foul was called on Amelia Recker under the basket on Siefker for a push by the ref at HALFCOURT! THe two under the basket didn't call a thing, and man I was concerned that was going to swing the game the other way as Ottoville then scored on a layup to cut the lead. Huge play, but thankfully it didn't affect the outcome. Siefker could have also been called many times in the paint when Amelia went thru her to the basket, but no calls. I was okay with it really, would rather have them swallow whistle and let the kids dictate outcome than every touch foul being called. I know the point guard for O'ville was tired of Joy Reamsnyder doggin her all nigth too...in the 2nd half, she continued to lead with her off arm to maintain distance...a sign we have seen all year in second half of games when Joy has been locked on a point guard....it's tough to go thru that all night...



Time to get on the Arlington bandwagon Mysterio! Welcome aboard...

Well that was a pretty bad call too. I mean that call really didn't change the outcome of the game though. The travel on Koch did because then Arlington scored after that and then took the lead before half. I think that right there changed the momentum and pretty much the game. I didn't think the officiating was bad, just that older official that had made some pretty bad calls for both teams. Its hard to beat a team when the shots are falling for one team and not the other.

Post, Arlingtons defense did a great job. But I counted quite a few unforced turnovers. At least 3 late in the game with under 2 minutes. I counted 5 bad passes from penetrating and dishing it out to the wing. Those are unforced TOs there. Don't get me wrong, Arlington did force some but I'd say more of it was unforced and that has been a big problem with Ottoville in the tournament this year.

Congrats to Arlington though, very classy team and deserves their place down in state WHEN they get past New Riegal.

Edited by Mysterio, 09 March 2012 - 09:19 AM.

[Common Sense]

Mysterio, on 09 March 2012 - 09:11 AM, said:

Well that was a pretty bad call too. I mean that call really didn't change the outcome of the game though. The travel on Koch did because then Arlington scored after that and then took the lead before half. I think that right there changed the momentum and pretty much the game. I didn't think the officiating was bad, just that older official that had made some pretty bad calls for both teams. The way I see it, this tournament is just been going Arlingtons way. Ever since the controversial no foul and letting them shoot the 3 against Holgate, surviving a little scare against Leipsic and then the banking the three pointer shots against Ottoville. Its hard to beat a team when the shots are falling for one team and not the other. Congrats to Arlington though, very classy team and deserves their place down in state WHEN they get past New Riegal.

As they say, you need a little luck here and there in sports. Who would have thought Arlington, down by 3 with less than 10 seconds left in the Holgate game, would be in this position?
One thing that really has not been mentioned yet is the affect a team of seniors have. I thought an area Arlington did have an advantage last night was with the seniors. 7 Arlington seniors and I believe 3 for Ottoville. Makes a huge difference.

[PostPlayer]

Mysterio, on 09 March 2012 - 09:11 AM, said:

Well that was a pretty bad call too. I mean that call really didn't change the outcome of the game though. The travel on Koch did because then Arlington scored after that and then took the lead before half. I think that right there changed the momentum and pretty much the game. I didn't think the officiating was bad, just that older official that had made some pretty bad calls for both teams. The way I see it, this tournament is just been going Arlingtons way. Ever since the controversial no foul and letting them shoot the 3 against Holgate, surviving a little scare against Leipsic and then the banking the three pointer shots against Ottoville. Its hard to beat a team when the shots are falling for one team and not the other. Congrats to Arlington though, very classy team and deserves their place down in state WHEN they get past New Riegal.




Post, Arlingtons defense did a great job. But I counted quite a few unforced turnovers. At least 3 late in the game with under 2 minutes. I counted 5 bad passes from penetrating and dishing it out to the wing. Don't get me wrong, Arlington did force some but I'd say more of it was unforced and that has been a big problem with Ottoville in the tournament this year. You might see things differently and thats fine but I have been to a few Ottoville games this year and that has been an issue for them.

Agreed on most accounts....have said all along, it takes skill, talent, coaching and a splash of good fortune to get to Cbus. This team seems to have all of these key aspects going their way right now. I really think Arlington played a near perfect game last night and needed it to beat Ottoville. Ottoville lacks just one quick guard that can handle the ball...cause they got the bigs no question. Siefker was even bigger than I thought...good player.

[Mysterio]

PostPlayer, on 09 March 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

Agreed on most accounts....have said all along, it takes skill, talent, coaching and a splash of good fortune to get to Cbus. This team seems to have all of these key aspects going their way right now. I really think Arlington played a near perfect game last night and needed it to beat Ottoville. Ottoville lacks just one quick guard that can handle the ball...cause they got the bigs no question. Siefker was even bigger than I thought...good player.

Yup exactly I thought all along it just takes a quick team that has good guards and the ability to knock down the 3 to beat Ottoville. They ran into a few games this year against teams like that but survived all except against Arlington. I would say Arlington played a very good game and if they continue to play like that, they will be tough to beat.

[Mysterio]

Common Sense, on 09 March 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

As they say, you need a little luck here and there in sports. Who would have thought Arlington, down by 3 with less than 10 seconds left in the Holgate game, would be in this position?
One thing that really has not been mentioned yet is the affect a team of seniors have. I thought an area Arlington did have an advantage last night was with the seniors. 7 Arlington seniors and I believe 3 for Ottoville. Makes a huge difference.

Very true. And I think you are right. Ottoville is losing 2 of them starting guards and that Bendele girl I believe. But will be returning their height and could be right back here again next year.

[flounder]

What a great game to witness......couple things that really stood out.....the huge difference on field goal attempts...especially the first half.....the dynamite performancee by the guard that came off the bench....and the huge differential in turnovers.....all spelled doom for Ottoville......I also feel that Arlington has the best team hands down, and Newlove...even though he is rather new to this coaching thing made Kleman look like a rookie.......just my observance!!!!!

Good luck to Arlington.....keep playing them one at a time, and you have a great shot at bringing home the hardware!!!

[Ihatesoccer]

bummer hoping Big Green would win state.

Ottoville is going to be down next few years.

[flounder]

Simon Cezz, on 09 March 2012 - 07:01 AM, said:

So the "unbeatable" Ottoville girls go down ? I bet somewhere Jeff S is laughing his butt off.

I was wondering when this would come up.......this has been kept pretty quiet all season, and is a real shame it happened!!!!!

[Venom]

Ihatesoccer, on 09 March 2012 - 10:27 AM, said:

bummer hoping Big Green would win state.

Ottoville is going to be down next few years.

Are they? Their JV team went 19-1 this year not to mention Siefker, Beining, Kaufman, Tunrwald will be back next year. Did I mention their JV team went 19-1?

[Bleeds Green & Gold]

flounder, on 09 March 2012 - 10:30 AM, said:

I was wondering when this would come up.......this has been kept pretty quiet all season, and is a real shame it happened!!!!!

I'm curious what people actually think "happened".....

[BlueJay]

Venom, on 09 March 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:

Are they? Their JV team went 19-1 this year not to mention Siefker, Beining, Kaufman, Tunrwald will be back next year. Did I mention their JV team went 19-1?

Yep. Ottoville will be a powerhouse next year as well!

[Ihatesoccer]

Venom, on 09 March 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:

Are they? Their JV team went 19-1 this year not to mention Siefker, Beining, Kaufman, Tunrwald will be back next year. Did I mention their JV team went 19-1?

well I was thinking soph and younger teams ?

[Fletch]

Time is running out for Ottoville to win State, all the talent they have had over the years and still no Championship!!

[milt73]

Fletch, on 09 March 2012 - 12:31 PM, said:

Time is running out for Ottoville to win State, all the talent they have had over the years and still no Championship!!

I'm always amazed at ignorant statements like this. People act like State Championships grow on trees. Talk to the few coaches in the area that have one and ask them how easy it was to EARN that state title. It's a good accomplishment to make it to the Regionals and a great accomplishment to make it down to Columbus. Enjoy the good years you have!

[milt73]

Ihatesoccer, on 09 March 2012 - 10:27 AM, said:

bummer hoping Big Green would win state.

Ottoville is going to be down next few years.

They lose some pretty darn good seniors, but return 4 or 5 very good underclassmen. 19-1 JV record was THE BEST JV season O'ville girls have ever had! If I had to make a guess, a 17 win regular season would be a good over/under.

Both of these schools know, especially in small schools, that a couple good classes in a row can mean a lot of success.