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[OSH]

Some people are just ridiculous.

I don't know if everyone that is posting on here is IN or FROM northwest Ohio...if you are, get out and experience the rest of the soccer world.

These "suggestions" are absolutely absurd. I am done wasting my time replying to ludicrousness.

[caldwell]

OSH, on 16 February 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

Some people are just ridiculous.

I don't know if everyone that is posting on here is IN or FROM northwest Ohio...if you are, get out and experience the rest of the soccer world.

These "suggestions" are absolutely absurd. I am done wasting my time replying to ludicrousness.

Sorry, just keep it the way you like it....
0-0 ties are great!!!!

Keep filling the stands. That is if the parents even care to come?

[Common Sense]

pclbvc11, on 15 February 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:

Word on the streets is that Pandora isnt giving up on the fight and will have a Recreational team next year, still playing were they did, wearing what they did. THe only difference is that the school won't be backing them, so no difference the school never funded their program in the first place. Glad to hear they are still fighting it!

And there's nothing wrong with this. So who do they play? Can they play other OHSAA schools? Or is it true rec league soccer? I know we've seen some local high school football teams play "club" teams from other states.

[dkusma96]

caldwell, on 16 February 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

Keep filling the stands. That is if the parents even care to come?

Yes, even though volleyball has no ties, the attendance stinks. Maybe the nets should be lowered?
HS baseball/softball games aren't well attended. Perhaps brining the fences? Shortening the bases will fill the stands? Eliminating the strikeout?

Keep playing in the theater of the absurd.

[Mysterio]

dkusma96, on 16 February 2012 - 07:46 PM, said:

brining

Is this a spelling error? lol Sorry had to do it dkusma

Edited by Mysterio, 16 February 2012 - 09:38 PM.

[Goin2goal]

OSH, on 16 February 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

Some people are just ridiculous.

I don't know if everyone that is posting on here is IN or FROM northwest Ohio...if you are, get out and experience the rest of the soccer world.

These "suggestions" are absolutely absurd. I am done wasting my time replying to ludicrousness.

All bow down to the great all-knowing world traveler OSH. Sorry we are not up to your level of soccer intelligence.

[pclbvc11]

Rumor on the Streets is that people at Pandora arent going to stop fighting. Rumors are they will be having a Recreational Team this up coming season. They will play were they did because there feild is located on Public Park land and sounds like they will even wear the same jerseys. Sounds like what they had before. The school didnt fund them when their program was ran through the school. Glad to hear PG is still fighting it.

[paynepanthers]

Attendance or lack thereof if often considered irrelevant at the high school level if the sport is considered an American sport. If the number of participants is there, American schools will typically try and field those teams. Soccer has the extra burden of not being considered an American sport. Some of the anti-soccer passion is driven by the "foreign" perception of the sport. Soccer is a great game. My two sons played both rec and at the high school level. If the top player in the world was an American or if the US Men's National Team were consistently thought to be a challenger for the World Cup (or Olympic Championship) interest would grow. MLS is well below the EPL and the other top European leagues. Is interest in soccer growing? Yes. Will soccer ever be considered equal along side American football? No.

Edited by paynepanthers, 17 February 2012 - 07:57 AM.

[OSH]

caldwell, on 16 February 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

Sorry, just keep it the way you like it....
0-0 ties are great!!!!

Keep filling the stands. That is if the parents even care to come?

What we have is better than anything you have proposed, if that's what you are saying...I agree.

One reason we are a "laughing stock" of soccer is because we continue try to "Americanize" things. That's why high school soccer is where it is. The OHSAA and NFHS (and other state associations) make it a joke with their "Americanizing" of it. It is stupid. There is NO need to change the game.

Heck, even basketball is routinely "Americanized." How many different rules and regulations can we have in the US? It's different from high school, to college, to pro. It's different from high school to AAU. It's different from what we do in the US to what the rest of the world does. That is so dumb.

Goin2goal, on 16 February 2012 - 11:52 PM, said:

All bow down to the great all-knowing world traveler OSH. Sorry we are not up to your level of soccer intelligence.

At least you see it my way...

But seriously...it's not intelligence. It's simply saying, "these are the laws of the game that are in place...use them and that is the game." If you want a game that is similar to soccer that doesn't have draws, flopping, etc. Go create that game. Like I said above, it is the game of soccer. The laws of the game are in place for the game (as a whole). Why must we continue changing things as Americans or even in a regional setting in the US?

The rest of the country plays by the same high school rules. You go to Columbus and tell DeSales of your "rule changes" and you will get laughed at. People who know and understand the game don't want these ludicrous rules. It makes no sense.

The kids aren't playing to get hundreds of people in the stands. Kids will continue to play if NO ONE is in the stands. And you know what...they'll continue working hard, having fun, and competing regardless. If you don't like it...don't watch. It's about the kids...not the spectators. The spectators will be there and enjoy it for what it is...joga bonito.

[Goin2goal]

OSH, on 17 February 2012 - 11:47 AM, said:

What we have is better than anything you have proposed, if that's what you are saying...I agree.

One reason we are a "laughing stock" of soccer is because we continue try to "Americanize" things. That's why high school soccer is where it is. The OHSAA and NFHS (and other state associations) make it a joke with their "Americanizing" of it. It is stupid. There is NO need to change the game.

Heck, even basketball is routinely "Americanized." How many different rules and regulations can we have in the US? It's different from high school, to college, to pro. It's different from high school to AAU. It's different from what we do in the US to what the rest of the world does. That is so dumb.



At least you see it my way...

But seriously...it's not intelligence. It's simply saying, "these are the laws of the game that are in place...use them and that is the game." If you want a game that is similar to soccer that doesn't have draws, flopping, etc. Go create that game. Like I said above, it is the game of soccer. The laws of the game are in place for the game (as a whole). Why must we continue changing things as Americans or even in a regional setting in the US?

The rest of the country plays by the same high school rules. You go to Columbus and tell DeSales of your "rule changes" and you will get laughed at. People who know and understand the game don't want these ludicrous rules. It makes no sense.

The kids aren't playing to get hundreds of people in the stands. Kids will continue to play if NO ONE is in the stands. And you know what...they'll continue working hard, having fun, and competing regardless. If you don't like it...don't watch. It's about the kids...not the spectators. The spectators will be there and enjoy it for what it is...joga bonito.

I think we are genrally in aggreement OSH. Yeah I'd like to do away with ties. But otherwise, I think you got my point starting back with the unneccesary uniform color change. Everything else can be settled with better referee education/traing/fitness.


z out, judging from your username, I am guessing you are an uneducated football moron. Which I will say, soccer is much more interesting to watch than about 70% all HS football games. 4 second play, stand in the huddle for 35, 4 second play, stand around for 35....ZZZ ZZZ ZZZ. Now I get your username and I agree!!!

[Mysterio]

95 Z Out, on 17 February 2012 - 12:46 PM, said:

At least that would be more interesting to watch than a soccer game!

No one cares if you don't like soccer. Which makes me wonder why you are even in this forum? Go preach to people who actually care what you have to say about the sport because the ones that do care about soccer, don't want to hear your nonsense. I'm not much of baseball fan, so you know what I do. I stay away from baseball forums.

[caldwell]

Once conslidation happens, these newly formed schools will add football and there will nolonger be any soccer forums. We need to take our shots now?

[Mysterio]

caldwell, on 20 February 2012 - 08:17 AM, said:

Once conslidation happens, these newly formed schools will add football and there will nolonger be any soccer forums. We need to take our shots now?

Oh will they? Because if Ottoville/FJ ever consolidate I bet you there would still be soccer.

Sorry to disappoint but soccer is not going anywhere. So continue taking your shots because in the end it won't change anything.

Edited by Mysterio, 20 February 2012 - 10:12 AM.

[OSH]

Goin2goal, on 17 February 2012 - 01:02 PM, said:

I think we are genrally in aggreement OSH. Yeah I'd like to do away with ties. But otherwise, I think you got my point starting back with the unneccesary uniform color change. Everything else can be settled with better referee education/traing/fitness.

Yeah, G2g, it seems we are on the same page.

I guess I never addressed it, but I do think that there should be an extratime/overtime format for high school games. I have no problems with that. It'd be nice since EVERY other major competitive league has some form of extratime/overtime.

It could be golden goal. It could be a set time. It doesn't matter. I would be in favor of high school associations adopting that change. The biggest problem could be playing in the dark...I am sure there are MANY teams that don't have lights.

[Demise]

OSH, on 20 February 2012 - 10:14 AM, said:

It could be golden goal. It could be a set time. It doesn't matter. I would be in favor of high school associations adopting that change. The biggest problem could be playing in the dark...I am sure there are MANY teams that don't have lights.

Exactly. The problem of wanting overtime during the regular season would be the the extensions of the game and therefore could cause a problem to the schools who don't have lights. The only scenario I would have is go right into penalty kick shootouts. But I'm not a real fan of that. I think soccer is played the way it should be and no reason to make any changes. Ties happen all around us not just in sports. No one likes to lose or even tie. But it is part of the game and those out there that dislike it need to accept it.

Edited by Demise, 20 February 2012 - 11:37 AM.

[dkusma96]

On another note, PG does have a very nice pitch, perhaps they could rent it out.

[paynepanthers]

http://www.blufftoni...s-monday-agenda

Unrelated but this has been long over due for Bluffton. (increasing the size of the pitch is the next needed step)

[Demise]

Common Sense, on 16 February 2012 - 04:09 PM, said:

And there's nothing wrong with this. So who do they play? Can they play other OHSAA schools? Or is it true rec league soccer? I know we've seen some local high school football teams play "club" teams from other states.

They might be able to schedule some games against JV squads. But to pick up some against varsity squads might not happen. No team in the PCL will wanna play them unless its a JV team perhaps. Other than that I'm sure they can pick up some games against other club teams that are around.

[OSH]

Demise, on 21 February 2012 - 09:14 AM, said:

They might be able to schedule some games against JV squads. But to pick up some against varsity squads might not happen. No team in the PCL will wanna play them unless its a JV team perhaps. Other than that I'm sure they can pick up some games against other club teams that are around.

The OHSAA does not allow "club" high school teams to play against sanctioned teams as "regular season contests."

So, they can technically play the high school teams in exhibitions and that's all. Arlington does have a high school club team, so they could play them. That's all that I know in this area, but I am sure there are a couple more.