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[Nearfall]

Its time to start the chatter for this years Div. 3 Sectional at LCC. I might as well start with my semi predictions. These are not my actual predictions just kind of a starting point. Please don't tare me a part to bad if I'm way off.

Weight Class School
103
1 Trevor Bockey - SP
2 Treg Keyser - CG
3 Reece Kaiser - CW
4 Jacquobe Markward - Linc
5 Zack Ellsworth - LCC
6 Logan Siebeneck - OG
7
8

112
1 Joe Stahl WT
2 Tyler Baker - AE
3 Mason Kuether - CW
4 Brett Sampson - CG
5 Austin Escobedo OG
6
7
8

119
1 Brandon McCormick LCC
2 Jake Grahm - CG
3 Aaron Deffenbaugh - DSJ
4 Kane Kallenberger - CW
5 Aaron Miller - WT
6 James Steel - Linc.
7 Trey Gossard - AE
8 Spencer Lake - LCC

125
1 Dustin Brinkman - BLU
2 Jeremy Post - CW
3 Mathias Klausing - OG
4 Tanner Vermule - DJ
5 Thomas Martin - CG
6 Kevin Markward - LIN
7
8

130
1 Colt Lovejoy - AE
2 Aaron Merschman - DSJ
3 Jordan Brinkman - Bluffton
4 Dylan Kleman - CG
5 Alex Timmerman - CW
6 Cory Binkley - SP
7 Spencer Lake - LCC
8

Weight Class School
135
1 Kameran Clemens - WT
2 Austin Loyd - AE
3 Will Buettner - DSJ
4 Darrin Edinger - DJ
5 Troy Muhlenkamp - CW
6 Cory Binkley - SPEN
7 Jared Eley - LCC
8 Colin Hanneman - OG

140
1 Zack Wilson - BLU
2 Ryan Musser - DSJ
3 Justin Pryor - AE
4 Chris Boroff - LIN
5 Zack Cotterman - WT
6 Joey Lindeman - DJ
7 Jonas Johnson - SPEN
8 Corey Kahlig - CW

145
1 Cody Hahn - LCC
2 Sawyer Temple - WT
3 Austin Lotz - SP
4 Brent Collet - CW
5 Logan Looser - DSJ
6 Draven Delgado - OG
7 Justin Conner - BLU
8

152
1 Grant Dues - AE
2 Brian Hemmelgarn - CW
3 John Smith - SP
4 Tyler Arnett - WT
5 Jake Tremoulis - LCC
6 Brandon Benroth - CG
7
8

160
1 JR Conyers - AE
2 Jeff Siefker - OG
3 Dakota Fisher - CG
4 Josh Boekman - CW
5 Bobby Sunderhaus - LCC
6 Tim West - WT
7 Brock Bonifas - DSJ
8

Weight Class School
171
1 Gavin Windau - CG
2 Cody Lovejoy – AE
3 Colin McMonnahea - DJ
4 Tyler Shumate - SPEN
5 Brett Schwinnen - DSJ
6 Derek Collert - CW
7
8

189
1 Logan Heiing - DSJ
2 Grant Criblez - AE
3 David Gremling - LCC
4 Brandon Weller - OG
5 Jacob Leach - DJ
6 Luke Piper - CW
7 Lucas Schumate - SP
8

215
1 Curtis Miller - DJ
2 Ben Moser - BLU
3 Wyatt Karhoff - OG
4 Cody Homan - CW
5 Luke Krouskop - SPEN
6 Adam Haunhorst - DSJ
7
8

285
1 Greg Martin - CG
2 Tyler Wilder - CW
3 Geoff Ketcham - DJ
4 Kody Koronich - BLU
5 Tanner Engle - AE
6 Nate Schroeder DSJ
7 Tommy Dotson Ada
8


1. Allen East
2. Coldwater
3. Columbus Grove
4. Delphos St. John's
5. Bluffton
6. Wayne Trace
7. LCC
8. Delphos Jefferson
9. Spencerville

[Larry Goldjohn]

I think your team scores seem decent but i think DSJ will beat Grove, i think most of the individual champs seem decent besides i think lloyd will beat clemens and i also hear that Wilson and Musser r gonna move to 135 but idk if thats just rumors, but if they stay at 140 i think pryer will beat Musser if he wrestle like he did at NWC and he has a real good chance of beating Wilson too, one 145 is wrong too, Bluffton has a differnt one now cause connor is hurt, good choices over all though i think but he is not good at all

[slice slice baby]

GO AE MEN!!!!

[CG Pride]

DSJ's Musser isn't dropping, Lincolnview's Boroff is not on the team and K Markward is out with injury

[Nearfall]

I don't see Wilson dropping either

[Bench80]

1. Allen East
2. Coldwater
3. Columbus Grove
4. Delphos St. John's
5. Bluffton
6. Wayne Trace
7. LCC
8. Delphos Jefferson
9. Spencerville


You have not listed O-G, Lincolview or Ada in your team scores. Ada should be congratulated for participating this year so they can get their feet wet, but obviously do not factor into team scores in any fashion: Lincolnview is not mcuh of a factor either, but O-G will impact how the middle teams align, as that is where they stand with a few excellent wrestlers.

AE is a clear #1, Coldwater is most likely 2, but relies more on depth than top end success, so they could slide to 3 if they have an off weekend. Grove is much like Coldwater, relying on depth, but they are not as good as Coldwater top to bottom; even with an off weekend, it would be hard to imagine them slipping lower than 4 while entering 14 athletes, as no other team has the depth.

Spots 4-8 or 9 will be interesting, as Bluffton, DSJ. LCC, O-G, WT, Jefferson and Spencerville are similar. Remembering that this is a bracket, not a pool, teams with the best top end wrestlers will be rewarded more than teams with a bunch of guys that will get 5th or 6th.

There may be some individuals changing weight classes that could impact team scores. It may be easier to determine teams after cahnges are known.

[bshute]

I think your team scores seem decent but i think DSJ will beat Grove, i think most of the individual champs seem decent besides i think lloyd will beat clemens and i also hear that Wilson and Musser r gonna move to 135 but idk if thats just rumors, but if they stay at 140 i think pryer will beat Musser if he wrestle like he did at NWC and he has a real good chance of beating Wilson too, one 145 is wrong too, Bluffton has a differnt one now cause connor is hurt, good choices over all though i think but he is not good at all

Appreciate your excitement for good showing by Pryor, but unless he has totally changed his wrestling style, he will not beat Wilson or Musser. Too defensive, does not wrestle to win, wrestles not to lose. I think all 3 kind of wrestle that way, just think Wilson and Musser have a little more.

[Larry Goldjohn]

Appreciate your excitement for good showing by Pryor, but unless he has totally changed his wrestling style, he will not beat Wilson or Musser. Too defensive, does not wrestle to win, wrestles not to lose. I think all 3 kind of wrestle that way, just think Wilson and Musser have a little more.

"Pryer" has changed his style, he is wrestling better than he has all year, he will beat musser, and he only lost 3-4 to wilson and he was very close to getting points on several shots and/or defensively when he block Wilson's great HI-C and I really think that could be one of the best matches of the tourney "Wilson vs. Pryer"

[bshute]

"Pryer" has changed his style, he is wrestling better than he has all year, he will beat musser, and he only lost 3-4 to wilson and he was very close to getting points on several shots and/or defensively when he block Wilson's great HI-C and I really think that could be one of the best matches of the tourney "Wilson vs. Pryer"

Sorry about incorrect spelling.
I don't think he beats Wilson. And this might be semi match-up. Cotterman may get 3rd seed. Do they have head to head this year?

Edited by bshute, 14 February 2011 - 11:33 AM.

[Larry Goldjohn]

Sorry about incorrect spelling.
I don't think he beats Wilson. And this might be semi match-up. Cotterman may get 3rd seed. Do they have head to head this year?

Ya Cotterman did beat pryer earlier in the season but pryer wasn't 100% and it was still a really good match, pryer know him now and wrestling great, the seed will probly go:
1st:Wilson
2nd:Musser
3rd:Cotterman
4th: Pryer
but pryer can definatly beat Musser and cotterman with out a dought in my mind, but if they wrestle it probly wont be till finals, and i still really think he can and will beat wilson

[Nearfall]

Sorry if there are changes at some of these weight classes or guys no longer on teams, I just trie to do the best I could to get some chatter started. As for me not mentioning Ottawa Glandorf in the team, my bad I really don't see them making any noise above a 5th place if that. As for Pryor and Musser they may meet for 3rd and 4th with Cotterman pulling off the win over Musser. I don't see Pryor knocking off Wilson, but Abbey always seems to have his guys ready in the big matches. The Brinkman vs Post match at 125 could be another good one to watch along with Merscham vs Lovejoy at 130. Its going to be fun one to watch this weekend. Team scores could come down to how the seeds play out, that is the teams fighting for 2nd, 3rd and 4th after Allen East!

[nwc fan]

Pryer has wrestled Wilson and lost both times. but i don't think he has ever taken him down, turned him, or even rode him out. All he has for points is escapes. He will have to get a takedown to win and i dont see that happening.

[Part-Timer]

Wilson has no top game
and can't ride anyone out then choose neutral in the third period and stalled the whole 2 minutes.

I agree!

Wilson seems to be a great staler,

OR

wrestles to the intensity of his opponent.??????



I believe that Musser and Pryer can beat Wilson if they step it up in the 3rd period.

[HandsOnMop]

As for me not mentioning Ottawa Glandorf in the team, my bad I really don't see them making any noise above a 5th place if that.

I'm not so sure, they did quite well last weekend at their league tournament with 2 individual champs and several other top 4 placers.

[Larry Goldjohn]

I'm not so sure, they did quite well last weekend at their league tournament with 2 individual champs and several other top 4 placers.

I think Grove will drop in this
1: Allen East
2: Coldwater
3: DSJ
4: Columbus Grove
5: OG
i think CG will beat OG by less than 5 though

Edited by Larry Goldjohn, 16 February 2011 - 09:39 AM.

[Nearfall]

I still see LCC finishing above OG with three potential champions 119, 145 and 189, and 3 to 4 more top 4 placers. OG will be lucky to even have a champion. Siefker is there best chance but has already been beaten by Conyers.If Klausing would drop to 125 he doesn't beat Post or Brinkman and if he stays 130 he will have a difficult time with Lovejoy and Merschman.

[outside eye]

Larry you went to far. Now Stop or I'll make you stop!

[Nearfall]

Let's get back to actually talking wrestling instead of any of the personal inside stuff. My bad on the miss spelling of Pryer that should not of been taken out on another wrestler. I'm just trying to get this sectional some talk. Let's hear some others predictions, or other good match ups to watch for.

[Bigmac69]

All 3 of the wrestler stall in there own way and there is no need for everyone to bad mouth or even think bad of a kid due to personal feelings because all three of the kids mentioned are tough and any of them could beat each other!!! all in all it is the wrestler who wants it more and the one who puts his heart and soul into the sport it does not matter on paper who is the best or who has beaten who because in wrestling anything can happen all that matters is that there are good matches this weekend and everyone gives it there best

[Bigmac69]

Really!!?? Thats where you want this to go?
Where does Pryer fit into the stalling conversation?
Wilson is favored to win Kettering Dist. But by your logic Im guessing that should really be Pryer, because everyone else just stalls on him? Well I for one, cant wait to see this Blue and White "hurricane" dismantle everyone in front of him! Would be quite the feet considering, being 0-2 against Wilson, 0-4 against mustard, and 0-1 against Cotterman. Let the dismantling begin! Cant wait! Should be impressive.

Yeah they all stall but records against kids do not mean anything it is all about how wants to win the match more who puts in more time and who has the heart to pull of a win against a tough opponent