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[bshute]

A shot in the dark but maybe it will boost discussion. 103 shawnee 112 bible 119 mccormick 125 brinkman 130 mcdermit 135 meeks 140 wilson 145 musser 152 dues 160 conyers 171 lovejoy 189 sturgill 215 miller 285 bluffton. These are total guesses.

Not bad for total guesses! The only things I would question is 125 (just cause im not that familiar with that weight, and i think real wrestling happens between 130-160 just my opinion LOL). And not sure about Wilson has yet to wrestle. Otherwise cant argue that lineup.

[born_to_wrestle]

i think 125 might be more exciting than you think, if these guys are all at that weight......Croft, Merschman(maybe) Brinkman, Mault, Colt Lovejoy

Edited by born_to_wrestle, 15 December 2010 - 12:13 PM.

[EZ Going]

I heard that Wilson did wrestle but was injured and should be back for Allen County. Not sure what weight. Also believe that Mccormick is out with a broken arm. Hahn from LCC should be @140 or 145 also.

[outside eye]

I know Wilson has alphaed, but he is yet to wrestle.? Would like DSJ's team alot better if they werent missing 2 Dist. and 1 State qualifier. 152 and heavy didnt come out. And Grubenoff (215, sq) has torn acl from football. To bad too, would have liked to see him and Miller go at it.

Who is DSJ missing? I knew about Polhman and Grubenoff.

[bshute]

Who is DSJ missing? I knew about Polhman and Grubenoff.

Neumier

[bshute]

I heard that Wilson did wrestle but was injured and should be back for Allen County. Not sure what weight. Also believe that Mccormick is out with a broken arm. Hahn from LCC should be @140 or 145 also.

If I remember Hahn lowest alpha was 145.

[outside eye]

Until we see the rosters we are kinda at a stand still.

[bshute]

i think 125 might be more exciting than you think, if these guys are all at that weight......Croft, Merschman(maybe) Brinkman, Mault, Colt Lovejoy

Didnt say it wouldnt be xciting, just that I dont know enough about the weight to really comment. Am almost positive that Merschman wont be here though. Which Brinkman is wrestling 125? Not sure if Lovejoy is here either? Anyway if thats who u have at 125 give a prediction, whos champ? Just curious? No wrong answer!

[outside eye]

Mault's lowest alpha was 135 unless he appealed. Merschman Lovejoy both have been at 130 which i believe is their lowest weight. Dustin Brinkman is at 125. Does anyone have ideas for lineups?

[bshute]

Mault's lowest alpha was 135 unless he appealed. Merschman Lovejoy both have been at 130 which i believe is their lowest weight. Dustin Brinkman is at 125. Does anyone have ideas for lineups?

Might have to wait till after 11 am tommorrow. Baums closes, so we will have some idea from what coaches submitted earlier. Things can change Sat. morning though.

[outside eye]

I don't think weights can be changed after they are submitted.

[Mackreeks]

It's been awhile since I've read a rule book (2 years), but as far as I know weights can change as long as a wrestler is not seeded. I'm not sure any seeding takes place until Sat. Morning - could be wrong though.

[born_to_wrestle]

Ok, just checked NWCA, Merschman lowest 125, Mault 135 (did he eat his wheaties in the off season? wow) Lovejoy 130. So I think I would put Croft and Merschman in the finals at 125, if Merschman not their it should be Croft and D. Brinkman. 130 I will still take McDermitt although I think Puaff from Elida (lowest 125) may be here and give McDermitt a great great match.

Edited by born_to_wrestle, 15 December 2010 - 04:26 PM.

[Bass_rat38]

This is lining up to be a very fun and exciting Allen County Tournament. The champions are going to have to come to wrestle that is for sure.

Who all are wrestling tonight? That could possibly be a benefit or a hinderance heading into this weekend's rumble!

[outside eye]

Kane Plaugher 10 Shawnee 5@103 4@103 3 1 3.5
Nik Moralez 11 Bath 3@112 12 16 6 0 4.3
Zack Ellsworth 9 Lima C.C. 4 0 100#

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Jake Bible 11 Bath 3@103 1@103 27 9 11 1 3.3
Tyler Baker 10 Allen East 4@103 12 19 2 5 3.4
Trace Plaugher 10 Shawnee 3@103 7 1 4.3
Trevor Bockey 9 Spencerville 4 3 57#

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John McRedmond 10 Jefferson 8@119 1 9 4 7 4.8
Joe Arthur 10 Shawnee 6 2 75#
Colin Ingram 9 Bath 8 3 73#
Matt Hammons 12 Lima Senior 3 2 60#

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Nick Pauff 10 Elida 2@112 1@112 30 4 9 1 3.2
Dustin Brinkman 12 Bluffton 2@125 2@125 31 5 7 0 3.2
Brady Croft 11 Shawnee 2@119 2@119 7 1 3.2
Aaron Deffenbaugh 10 St. John's 3@112 6@119 11 16 2 3 3.3
Tanner Vermule 9 Jefferson 0 0 8 3 73#
Matt Hammons 12 Lima Senior 3 2 60#
Shawn Lambert 9 Bath 7 5 58#

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Colt Lovejoy 11 Allen East 4@119 1@119 1@119 32 12 7 0 2.4
Aaron Merschman 12 St. John's 4@125 1@125 3@125 34 8 5 0 2.4
Colin McDermitt 11 Shawnee 5@125 2@125 1@125 9 0 2.5
Adam Troyer 11 Elida 7 8 7 3 70#

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Zavier Meeks 11 Bath 6@130 1@130 1@130 34 4 12 0 2.6
Kyle Miller 11 Shawnee 3@130 4@135 6 2 3.3
Justin Pryer 11 Allen East 4@140 3@140 18 15 5 2 3.4
Will Buettner 10 St. John's 4@119 3@119 18 18 4 1 3.4
Cory Binkley 10 Spencerville 5@125 8@130 12 23 5 2 3.5
Darren Edinger 11 Jefferson 7@140 19 18 7 4 4.7
Jared Eley 10 Lima C.C. 7@125 15 18 2 1 4.7
LaQuan Odom 9 Lima Senior 0 0 3 2 60#

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Zach Wilson 10 Bluffton 4@135 1@135 1@135 33 10 2.4
Tommy Mault 12 Bath 6@119 3@119 4@119 27 15 6 1 2.6
Austin Lloyd 10 Allen East 3@135 3@135 34 10 5 2 3.3
Tyler Dunlap 11 Elida 3@135 3@140 28 15 7 3 3.3
Brady Shafer 12 Lima Senior 4@130 3@130 5 0 3.4
Logan Looser 11 St. John's 5@145 5@145 18 16 3 2 3.5
Joey Lindeman 12 Jefferson 5@135 24 12 4 3 4.5
Jonas Johnson 12 Spencerville 5@145 17 10 3 3 4.5

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Ryan Musser 12 St. John's 1@140 2@140 33 9 5 0 3.1
Cody Hahn 12 Lima C.C. 2@135 2@135 12 6 4 0 3.2
Zachary Green 11 Elida 4@145 27 7 10 0 4.4
Nick Stephens 11 Allen East 5@160 4.5
Jadyn Trent 11 Shawnee 7@130 6 0 4.7
Kyle Sawmiller 10 Spencerville 8@125 2 5 4.8
Brandon Contris 12 Bath 3 10 7 5 58#

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Grant Dues 12 Allen East 1@152 25 6 7 0 3.1
Austin Lotz 11 Spencerville 5@140 4@145 0 0 3.5
Jake Tremoulis 10 Lima C.C. 6@140 9 21 3 1 4.6

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Ian Dukehart 11 Elida 6@160 12 17 9 1 3.6
J.R. Conyers 11 Allen East 2@145 23 9 6 1 4.2
Adrian Mack 9 Bath 12 0 100#
Brett Schwinnen 10 St. John's 9 16 4 1 80#
Bobby Sunderhaus 10 Lima C.C. 11 22 3 1 75#
Tyler Burden 12 Lima Senior 3 2 60#
John Smith 10 Spencerville 8 13 3 2 60#

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Cody Lovejoy 12 Allen East 6@171 4@171 1@171 36 11 6 1 2.6
David Gremling 11 Lima C.C. 4@189 6@189 24 17 4 0 3.4
Brock Bonifas 10 St. John's 5@160 2@160 14 8 4 1 3.5
Nickoli Sackinger 10 Elida 5@171 7 7 6 4 3.5
Erik Burden 11 Bath 4 0 100#
Colin McConnahea 10 Jefferson 6 24 9 3 75#
Lucas Shumate 10 Spencerville 6 14 4 3 57#

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Jeremy Chandler 12 Bath 2@160 5@171 26 14 12 0 3.2
Logan Heiing 11 St. John's 3@189 5@189 21 17 5 0 3.3
Logan Sturgill 12 Bluffton 2@189 19 3 5 0 4.2
Jacob Leach 12 Jefferson 9 7 11 1 56%

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Curtis Miller 11 Jefferson 2@189 1@189 1@189 44 3 11 0 2.2
Logan Kiracofe 12 Bath 2@189 27 9 0 0 3.2
Lucas Krouskop 10 Spencerville 7@215 7 26 5 2 4.7
Ben Moser 12 Bluffton 25 11 6 0 69%

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Nate Sackinger 12 Elida 4@215 12 26 7 3 3.4
Curtis Adkins 12 Shawnee 4@285 2 4 4.4
Geoff Ketcham 10 Jefferson 9 16 10 2 83#
Cole Helms 11 St. John's 5 2 4 1 80#
Kody Koronich 11 Bluffton 15 21 3 2 60#

There you go. I'm going to try to predict the top 4.

Edited by outside eye, 16 December 2010 - 02:28 PM.

[born_to_wrestle]

Seed nominations are out, I'll take the leap into the abyss known as the Allen County Tournament predictions. Best weight classes to watch 130, 125, 145, 140. Of course this is a guess for fun. No intentions to upset anyone.

103-Moralez,Plaugher, Ellsworth, Overhault
112-Bible, Plaugher, Murphy,Baker
119-?, really not sure of any of the wrestlers here
125-Pauff, Croft, Brinkman, Deffenbuagh
130-McDermitt, Lovejoy, Merschman,Troyer
135-Meeks, Pryor, Buetner, Miller
140-Wilson, Lloyd, Mault, Shafer,
145-Green, Hahn, Musser, Stephens
152-Dues, the rest.......your guess is as good as mine, maybe better
160-Mack, Conyers, Dukehart
171-Lovejoy, Gremling, Sackinger, Bonifas
189-Chandler, Sturgill, ??????????
215-Miller, Kirakofe
285-Ketcham, Helms, Sackinger, Atkins

Have at it, tear my guesses apart. See you Saturday........

Edited by born_to_wrestle, 16 December 2010 - 03:28 PM.

[born_to_wrestle]

OK, I keep staring at 125, I really don't know, I feel like I can make a case for Pauff, Croft, and Brinkman. Too close to call.

[lima man]

I will take Lloyd over Wilson ANY DAY! .......from what i hear..he hasnt been working very hard this year.

[outside eye]

Kane Plaugher 10 Shawnee 5@103 4@103 3 1 3.5
Nik Moralez 11 Bath 3@112 12 16 6 0 4.3
Zack Ellsworth 9 Lima C.C. 4 0 100#

Moralez, Plaugher, Ellsworth

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Jake Bible 11 Bath 3@103 1@103 27 9 11 1 3.3
Tyler Baker 10 Allen East 4@103 12 19 2 5 3.4
Trace Plaugher 10 Shawnee 3@103 7 1 4.3
Trevor Bockey 9 Spencerville 4 3 57#

Bible, Plaugher, Baker, Bockey

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John McRedmond 10 Jefferson 8@119 1 9 4 7 4.8
Joe Arthur 10 Shawnee 6 2 75#
Colin Ingram 9 Bath 8 3 73#
Matt Hammons 12 Lima Senior 3 2 60#

Not a clue

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Nick Pauff 10 Elida 2@112 1@112 30 4 9 1 3.2
Dustin Brinkman 12 Bluffton 2@125 2@125 31 5 7 0 3.2
Brady Croft 11 Shawnee 2@119 2@119 7 1 3.2
Aaron Deffenbaugh 10 St. John's 3@112 6@119 11 16 2 3 3.3
Tanner Vermule 9 Jefferson 0 0 8 3 73#
Matt Hammons 12 Lima Senior 3 2 60#
Shawn Lambert 9 Bath 7 5 58#

Now it gets interesting. In pool A I look for Pauff and Vermule to be tops, in pool B Brinkman vs Croft will be good. With the final standings being Brinkman, Pauff, Croft, Vermule.

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Colt Lovejoy 11 Allen East 4@119 1@119 1@119 32 12 7 0 2.4
Aaron Merschman 12 St. John's 4@125 1@125 3@125 34 8 5 0 2.4
Colin McDermitt 11 Shawnee 5@125 2@125 1@125 9 0 2.5
Adam Troyer 11 Elida 7 8 7 3 70#

This weight depends on how the seeding is settled between Lovejoy and Merschman. If it stays as listed I'll take McDermitt, Lovejoy, Merschman, Troyer. If Merschman is put the 1 seed I see Lovejoy and Merschman swapping in placement.

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Zavier Meeks 11 Bath 6@130 1@130 1@130 34 4 12 0 2.6
Kyle Miller 11 Shawnee 3@130 4@135 6 2 3.3
Justin Pryer 11 Allen East 4@140 3@140 18 15 5 2 3.4
Will Buettner 10 St. John's 4@119 3@119 18 18 4 1 3.4
Cory Binkley 10 Spencerville 5@125 8@130 12 23 5 2 3.5
Darren Edinger 11 Jefferson 7@140 19 18 7 4 4.7
Jared Eley 10 Lima C.C. 7@125 15 18 2 1 4.7
LaQuan Odom 9 Lima Senior 0 0 3 2 60#

Meeks, Pryer, Miller, Buettner. With the Pryer vs Miller match being a good one.

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Zach Wilson 10 Bluffton 4@135 1@135 1@135 33 10 2.4
Tommy Mault 12 Bath 6@119 3@119 4@119 27 15 6 1 2.6
Austin Lloyd 10 Allen East 3@135 3@135 34 10 5 2 3.3
Tyler Dunlap 11 Elida 3@135 3@140 28 15 7 3 3.3
Brady Shafer 12 Lima Senior 4@130 3@130 5 0 3.4
Logan Looser 11 St. John's 5@145 5@145 18 16 3 2 3.5
Joey Lindeman 12 Jefferson 5@135 24 12 4 3 4.5
Jonas Johnson 12 Spencerville 5@145 17 10 3 3 4.5

I like Wilson here with Mault and LLoyd being a toss up, with Dunlap being in the 4 spot.

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Ryan Musser 12 St. John's 1@140 2@140 33 9 5 0 3.1
Cody Hahn 12 Lima C.C. 2@135 2@135 12 6 4 0 3.2
Zachary Green 11 Elida 4@145 27 7 10 0 4.4
Nick Stephens 11 Allen East 5@160 4.5
Jadyn Trent 11 Shawnee 7@130 6 0 4.7
Kyle Sawmiller 10 Spencerville 8@125 2 5 4.8
Brandon Contris 12 Bath 3 10 7 5 58#

This one is interesting with the top 3 guys. If seed stays as is I'll go Hahn, Musser, Green, Trent.

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Grant Dues 12 Allen East 1@152 25 6 7 0 3.1
Austin Lotz 11 Spencerville 5@140 4@145 0 0 3.5
Jake Tremoulis 10 Lima C.C. 6@140 9 21 3 1 4.6

Dues, then coin clip

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Ian Dukehart 11 Elida 6@160 12 17 9 1 3.6
J.R. Conyers 11 Allen East 2@145 23 9 6 1 4.2
Adrian Mack 9 Bath 12 0 100#
Brett Schwinnen 10 St. John's 9 16 4 1 80#
Bobby Sunderhaus 10 Lima C.C. 11 22 3 1 75#
Tyler Burden 12 Lima Senior 3 2 60#
John Smith 10 Spencerville 8 13 3 2 60#

If seeds stays put. I'll go with the winner of Conyers and Mack as the Champwith the loser of this match being a strong 3rd. I beleive we'll see Dukehart being second and Schwinnen fourth.

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Cody Lovejoy 12 Allen East 6@171 4@171 1@171 36 11 6 1 2.6
David Gremling 11 Lima C.C. 4@189 6@189 24 17 4 0 3.4
Brock Bonifas 10 St. John's 5@160 2@160 14 8 4 1 3.5
Nickoli Sackinger 10 Elida 5@171 7 7 6 4 3.5
Erik Burden 11 Bath 4 0 100#
Colin McConnahea 10 Jefferson 6 24 9 3 75#
Lucas Shumate 10 Spencerville 6 14 4 3 57#

I think the top 3 are set with Burden being fourth.

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Jeremy Chandler 12 Bath 2@160 5@171 26 14 12 0 3.2
Logan Heiing 11 St. John's 3@189 5@189 21 17 5 0 3.3
Logan Sturgill 12 Bluffton 2@189 19 3 5 0 4.2
Jacob Leach 12 Jefferson 9 7 11 1 56%

I'll take Sturgill, Chandler, Heiing, Leach.

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Curtis Miller 11 Jefferson 2@189 1@189 1@189 44 3 11 0 2.2
Logan Kiracofe 12 Bath 2@189 27 9 0 0 3.2
Lucas Krouskop 10 Spencerville 7@215 7 26 5 2 4.7
Ben Moser 12 Bluffton 25 11 6 0 69%

Just switch Krouscup and Moser.

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Nate Sackinger 12 Elida 4@215 12 26 7 3 3.4
Curtis Adkins 12 Shawnee 4@285 2 4 4.4
Geoff Ketcham 10 Jefferson 9 16 10 2 83#
Cole Helms 11 St. John's 5 2 4 1 80#
Kody Koronich 11 Bluffton 15 21 3 2 60#

Helms only because he has had two of the better upperweights to work out with the past two years then, Ketcham Sackinger, Adkins. Watch out for the heavy from bath looked pretty good tonight.

[outside eye]

I will take Lloyd over Wilson ANY DAY! .......from what i hear..he hasnt been working very hard this year.

Not so sure about that. If Lloyd wins this weight he'll have earned it with having to go through Mault and Wilson.