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[Big_Daddy]

Who do the Pirates have to play in the PCL, yet? I think they beat all of the toughest teams already.

They Play today at Ottoville at noon and Monday at Pandora at 5.

[dobie xx]

maybe Perry is the best at padding stats?? 4 games averaging 25K's per game with only 21 outs per game?????

[PrideandHeart]

maybe Perry is the best at padding stats?? 4 games averaging 25K's per game with only 21 outs per game?????

Could be only 15 if it ends in 5 innings. Even harder to strike out 25 when only facing 15 batters to begin with.....lol

[dobie xx]

Could be only 15 if it ends in 5 innings. Even harder to strike out 25 when only facing 15 batters to begin with.....lol

Lima News does not have innings in the stat section but will qoute the paper here. 5-6-2010: REC 7wins 3losses 116 SO. 5-13-2010: REC 11wins 3losses 216 SO. Wow thats some BOLD book cookin!!!

[Smelly_Hillbilly]

Maybe the catcher is dropping alot of third strikes to help her pitcher out?!

[dobie xx]

Maybe the catcher is dropping alot of third strikes to help her pitcher out?!

in the words of Chris Carter "come on man!!!!"

[alaskan]

its been that way for at least 15 years. you count all those kids now and you will be lucky to get 10% of them to committ themselves for 4 years in high school. it doesnt matter what sport it is football, basketball, baseball. if we are putting emphasis on basketball, bath boys sports are in real real trouble. davis will be gone once his kid graduates, thankfully. I just hope these coaches teach better than they coach. coaching boys sports at a loser school like bath is nothing more than an ego trip for the great majority of them. it isnt for the money im sure, it takes you away from family (unless daddy is coach) and they must know deep in their heart they cant win consistantly. a .500 record at bath is like .250 in reality with the dumbed down schedules. (excluding football). Bath has 2 coaches that have the right formula but why dont the rest of them use it? PATHETIC.

I don't pretend to know all the ins and outs of that situation, but if it's like some other schools, the same 10% get the chance/opportunity over and over from Jr. Hi. on through high school. Finally the 90% say, "why the h$ll am I busting my butt?". If that is the case, can you blame them?

[lepiota]

I don't pretend to know all the ins and outs of that situation, but if it's like some other schools, the same 10% get the chance/opportunity over and over from Jr. Hi. on through high school. Finally the 90% say, "why the h$ll am I busting my butt?". If that is the case, can you blame them?

It is so tough to say how true your statement is. My kids are what you would call in that 10%, but I have practiced with them since they were kids and they are skilled. They are not part of any social group or friends with any coaches, yet they are usually the better players on their teams. Maybe that 90% is not willing to bust their butts because they never HAVE busted their butts and they have fallen behind those who work harder.

I'm not trying to offend you alaskan. Just going by what my perspective tells me.

[alaskan]

Like I said, I don't claim to know all about the situation there. I'm not offended. Don't have a dog in the fight so to speak. I'm totally familiar with the 80-20 or 90-10 rule, be it in sports or business or whatever type organization it is. That is in play everywhere.

But what I have seen is a program that according to posts here, has run new coaches up the flag pole on various occasions over the years in various sports, namely basketball and football. And now i guess you add baseball. What's been the end result? Go from dominination in the younger years with multiple players, to limping along in HS with the same few. That seems to be the common element in all frustrations. Other schools have gone through existance in the lower end of the WBL. Just seems as if it's status quo in some regards at Bath.

How does that 10% hard working group consistantly fall behind when the coaching element has been adjusted a number of times? At some point the realization has to be that it might not be the problem or at the very least the entire problem. Sooner or later you have to look at other components of the system. Don't know what that would be in Bath's situation, but reading various posts on their big three sports pointing to the coaches all the time doesn't seem to be the answer or at least the total answer.

[lepiota]

I think in Bath boys sports player apathy and lack of dedication comes to mind. These days kids quit if they don't like the coach a little bit, or they aren't playing the position they want. They don't seem to realize or care that high school is the only time in their lives they can play team sports. Or if they do play, they don't want to put in the time or effort to become an elite athlete. I can name a few exceptions. Johnny Semindinger works his butt off, as does Kyle Zimmerman, Tyler Black, Dre White in basketball. (There are others, forgive the omissions) But far too many don't work as hard as our girl athletes do.

[kaizen]

in football you need 7 or 8 players (like the ones you describe) to even smell a winning record. Bath has maybe 5 in football. In basketball you need at least 3, bath will have basically 1. in baseball i would say 5 or 6 players with work ethic as you describe. bath has maybe 3. couple the poor turnouts for each sport and the lack of talent overall and you have a below average program in each of the sports. especially when you factor in the weak schedules the basketball and baseball team play out of conference. Im not convinced that all the offseason work really does anything but create burnout for some that are good enough to play but choose not to participate since the net effect is always the same. I would like to see a comparison of teams that start football in july and not worry about all the lifting and running that seems to be the norm right now. it should be for the love of the game and competition rather than the excessive and truly worthless year round workouts. new football coach last year said team was out of shape and weak. so he worked them hard all winter through the spring and right up to game week #1. What did it all gain them? about 7 or seven that quit, and others that were injured and had terrible years. oh yeah. 1 win as well. HA! this doesnt even include the drinkers and drugees on the team. having fun is what it is to be about, yet coaches are in it to make names for themselves. bottomline, sports are not fun anymore to watch at bath. except for the girls.

[gottaluvit11]

in football you need 7 or 8 players (like the ones you describe) to even smell a winning record. Bath has maybe 5 in football. In basketball you need at least 3, bath will have basically 1. in baseball i would say 5 or 6 players with work ethic as you describe. bath has maybe 3. couple the poor turnouts for each sport and the lack of talent overall and you have a below average program in each of the sports. especially when you factor in the weak schedules the basketball and baseball team play out of conference. Im not convinced that all the offseason work really does anything but create burnout for some that are good enough to play but choose not to participate since the net effect is always the same. I would like to see a comparison of teams that start football in july and not worry about all the lifting and running that seems to be the norm right now. it should be for the love of the game and competition rather than the excessive and truly worthless year round workouts. new football coach last year said team was out of shape and weak. so he worked them hard all winter through the spring and right up to game week #1. What did it all gain them? about 7 or seven that quit, and others that were injured and had terrible years. oh yeah. 1 win as well. HA! this doesnt even include the drinkers and drugees on the team. having fun is what it is to be about, yet coaches are in it to make names for themselves. bottomline, sports are not fun anymore to watch at bath. except for the girls.

I disagree that any boys coach is going to bath to make a name for himself given the recent history of their programs. I think these coaches really think they can make a difference. Otherwise, why wouldn't they go somewhere else where they have a decent chance of success from the start?

[kaizen]

if they think they can make a difference, wouldnt they, by your definition, make a name for themselves? they dont go anywhere else because they have no resume to offer and the good ole boy network is hard to leave. not to mention bath schools are doing pretty well financially - who would leave that situation?

Edited by kaizen, 19 May 2010 - 08:10 PM.