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Posted 10 May 2010 - 08:24 PM

QUOTE (sauceyboy @ May 10 2010, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Who cares there rivals! let kids be kids. all about class and everything..i bet lcc shows alot of class out on the gridiron! stop acting like lcc is the perfect display of how schools should be. go recruit a little harder and maybe you could win nwc in football basketall and baseball.. boxing.gif

Are you kidding me???? If you know anything ....ANYTHING...about sports...you would know LCC does not recruit. Secondly LCC did win the NWC in basketball...Actually won state if you havn't heard....And LCC is sharing the NWC in baseball...Pretty sure LCC also was atop of football. NO team can win it every year but only LCC can be close...if not win...every year in the three major boys sports...So ya I dont know where your getting your information. And if anyone can fill me in on who LCC recruited for their basketball team or baseball team I'm all ears. All the kids on those teams have played for the Catholic programs except Derek Allen. Who was good on the basketball team but maybe 8th or 9th man. So ya who did they recruit?


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Posted 10 May 2010 - 08:28 PM

oh really they won state in basketball? wow! thanks for the info. sarcasm.gif ..............im sorry for being so demanding..they dont recruit..they send letters asking if you would like to be apart of the education! haha..what a joke. only lcc can get close! haha thats right..there such a better community over in lima so much better education then all the other nwc schools! schools run in cycles..not for lcc though! there always tough..there communtiy works so hard with there children to make such a great athletic school as your own..from what i understand lcc is a catholic school..i know principal isnt even catholic...anyways..good luck to riverdale and bluffton as they move on!

Edited by sauceyboy, 10 May 2010 - 08:34 PM.


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Posted 10 May 2010 - 08:29 PM

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oh really they won state in basketball? wow! thanks for the info. sarcasm.gif ..............im sorry for being so demanding..they dont recruit..they send letters asking if you would like to be apart of the education! haha..what a joke.

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 08:53 PM

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Are you kidding me???? If you know anything ....ANYTHING...about sports...you would know LCC does not recruit. Secondly LCC did win the NWC in basketball...Actually won state if you havn't heard....And LCC is sharing the NWC in baseball...Pretty sure LCC also was atop of football. NO team can win it every year but only LCC can be close...if not win...every year in the three major boys sports...So ya I dont know where your getting your information. And if anyone can fill me in on who LCC recruited for their basketball team or baseball team I'm all ears. All the kids on those teams have played for the Catholic programs except Derek Allen. Who was good on the basketball team but maybe 8th or 9th man. So ya who did they recruit?




Doesn't Allen East and LCC still have to play this season?

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 10:01 PM

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oh really they won state in basketball? wow! thanks for the info. sarcasm.gif ..............im sorry for being so demanding..they dont recruit..they send letters asking if you would like to be apart of the education! haha..what a joke.


Almost every night there is a television comercial for Spencerville schools and open enrollment possibilities. LCC hasn't had a transfer in three years. There is no question that several people told the Bluffton team AFTER THEY DID WHAT THEY DID, how bush their demonstration was and I am quite sure that every LCC supporter was rooting for St Henry AFTER BLUFFTON DID WHAT THEY DID. I often hear of these letters but have never seen anyone produce one, while other schools can have commercials on television for open enrollment which all schools take advantage of but this of course doesn't count.

Bluffton's team showed a ridiculous public disrespect to LCC, its seniors, and the conference and then has the gall to turn around and blame LCC for their, Blufftons, actions because LCC parents were upset and said as much after Bluffton did what they did.

Anything that was said was said after Bluffton showed their true class! Congrats to the Paulding Panthers on sharing the conference championship and hopefully Bluffton will have to share it with LCC in a few days. Good Luck to all remaining NWC schools in the tourney.

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 10:17 PM

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Almost every night there is a television comercial for Spencerville schools and open enrollment possibilities. LCC hasn't had a transfer in three years. There is no question that several people told the Bluffton team AFTER THEY DID WHAT THEY DID, how bush their demonstration was and I am quite sure that every LCC supporter was rooting for St Henry AFTER BLUFFTON DID WHAT THEY DID. I often hear of these letters but have never seen anyone produce one, while other schools can have commercials on television for open enrollment which all schools take advantage of but this of course doesn't count.

Bluffton's team showed a ridiculous public disrespect to LCC, its seniors, and the conference and then has the gall to turn around and blame LCC for their, Blufftons, actions because LCC parents were upset and said as much after Bluffton did what they did.

Anything that was said was said after Bluffton showed their true class! Congrats to the Paulding Panthers on sharing the conference championship and hopefully Bluffton will have to share it with LCC in a few days. Good Luck to all remaining NWC schools in the tourney.


Great logic. Some high school kids cheered so ADULTS can yell whatever they want. I am glad some adult LCC supports have the same amount of maturity as high school kids.

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 02:01 AM

Ok little girls, do your parents know you're arguing on here? Quit it, it is discusting....

I think Coldwater will most likely dominate Draper, their lineup is too solid all the way through.

Bluffton will most likely pitch Cheney as little as possible against OG/LB so he can pitch as many innings as possible against Coldwater, should be one heck of a fight for the District Championship.

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 09:20 AM

Sauceyboy,

Enough with the LCC bashing. I understand you have a distaste for LCC, as do I, but this is not the place to display it. LCC and Bluffton both displayed unclassy behavior, and arguing on an anonymous website is not going to solve anything.

Detesting a school in your own conference is not a crime... nor a sin. Niether is rooting for a team opposing a conference school. People are people and people get angry, let it be.

The whole rectruiting thing needs to come to an end as well. It's not just you saucyboy, it's a lot of people. I have never heard of a single person being "recruited" and I have never seen one of these "letters", so until any of us actually see's one, I suggest the recruiting conversations come to an end.

What happened saturday is a sad display of immaturity from two different sides, not just one. However, what's done is done. Let's put it to rest. Do the talking on the field.

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Edited by thebighurt, 11 May 2010 - 09:22 AM.


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Posted 11 May 2010 - 12:31 PM

OG will beat Bluffton..

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 01:32 PM

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OG will beat Bluffton..


OG better worry about beating LB first and Im sure you thought St. Henry would beat bluffton and they got run ruled

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 02:15 PM



Didn't the NWC AD's have a meeting last year in regards to LCC's recruiting practices? Suggesting a replacement in the league if continues?

Or

Might this be just rummors also?


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Yea, I said it!!!

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 04:23 PM

QUOTE (thebighurt @ May 11 2010, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sauceyboy,

Enough with the LCC bashing. I understand you have a distaste for LCC, as do I, but this is not the place to display it. LCC and Bluffton both displayed unclassy behavior, and arguing on an anonymous website is not going to solve anything.

Detesting a school in your own conference is not a crime... nor a sin. Niether is rooting for a team opposing a conference school. People are people and people get angry, let it be.

The whole rectruiting thing needs to come to an end as well. It's not just you saucyboy, it's a lot of people. I have never heard of a single person being "recruited" and I have never seen one of these "letters", so until any of us actually see's one, I suggest the recruiting conversations come to an end.

What happened saturday is a sad display of immaturity from two different sides, not just one. However, what's done is done. Let's put it to rest. Do the talking on the field.

thebighurt


good posting..and sorry i just wanted to get some of my thoughts out! but regarding og will beat bluffton..maybe in most sports but not sure about baseball!

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 08:41 PM

QUOTE (sauceyboy @ May 11 2010, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
good posting..and sorry i just wanted to get some of my thoughts out! but regarding og will beat bluffton..maybe in most sports but not sure about baseball!



For the record OG plays in the WBL which is MUCH better than the NWC.. Paulding beat Bluffton and OG swept paulding in a DH.. so I have no idea why bluffton people are so confindent your still bluffton..

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Posted 12 May 2010 - 09:06 AM

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For the record OG plays in the WBL which is MUCH better than the NWC.. Paulding beat Bluffton and OG swept paulding in a DH.. so I have no idea why bluffton people are so confindent your still bluffton..


What you said would be correct if the transitive property worked in baseball or any other sport.

A team with a 18-5 record shouldn't be confident? And yes, I understand the history of Bluffton baseball.

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Posted 12 May 2010 - 08:13 PM

Gumshoe ---

Correct me if I am wrong, but as I understand Open Enrollment in the Public System a student must not participate in athletics for a full year if they are in grades 9 - 12. I am not aware of that rule when it comes to "transfers" in the Private Schools. Call it what you like, there has been more than one case in the past that a football player has appeared as a Jr or Sr and a "scholarship" for a "better education" was provided. Back to the topic.........


Good Luck Bluffton Baseball

Good Luck Bluffton Softball

It has been enjoyable to follow you both in 2010

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Posted 12 May 2010 - 08:35 PM

QUOTE (dw629 @ May 11 2010, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For the record OG plays in the WBL which is MUCH better than the NWC.. Paulding beat Bluffton and OG swept paulding in a DH.. so I have no idea why bluffton people are so confindent your still bluffton..


hahahahahahaha pickles.gif

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Gumshoe ---

Correct me if I am wrong, but as I understand Open Enrollment in the Public System a student must not participate in athletics for a full year if they are in grades 9 - 12. I am not aware of that rule when it comes to "transfers" in the Private Schools. Call it what you like, there has been more than one case in the past that a football player has appeared as a Jr or Sr and a "scholarship" for a "better education" was provided. Back to the topic.........


Good Luck Bluffton Baseball

Good Luck Bluffton Softball

It has been enjoyable to follow you both in 2010


This topic has been discussed and railed upon and defended many times on this site over the last few years and always seems to fall on deaf ears when it comes to what the truth actually is. LCC benefited five years ago and four years ago from students who transferred to lCC after being released by their former schools superintendants. They did not have to sit out because they were released. LCC also has had two other transfers in the last three years both of whom sat out a year to qualify. Those being Lombardo and Johnson. Since the first set of transfers that raised such a stink, the school yielded to the demands of the NWC and agreed that even despite releases from the former schools, LCC would not accept anymore student athletes without requiring them to sit a year. There have been none since Johnson that I can think of. Now LCC does get students from the city school voucher program, a program that has drawn alot of pro and con debate both inside and outside the school and statewide. I am not aware of any voucher kids up to this point playing any substantial role in any of the big three sports. Aside from the parents of students who were already in the school system and negotiated the loopholes to receive a cut in tuition, I am not sure many people in the school system are in favor of the voucher program, aside from the administrators who like the bump in enrollment and the state dollars that come with it. Despite what most people outside the school believe, LCC has struggled with declining enrollment and the rising costs to run the school.

It doesn't take a "rocket" scientist to understand the dislike by some of LCC given the myths that are perpetuated on this site and in the NWC community but they are simply myths today. In the last few years lCC has bent over backwards to be a good conference member but seemingly to no avail and it is frustrating to those who want to be good league members and those who are very happy to be a part of a conference. Which is what brought about this topics original point. When the Bluffton players were as vocally excited as they were to see LCC lose, despite being a fellow conference team and the Bluffton coaches stood by and watched seemingly amused, it brought out some frustration in parents who had to watch hard working seniors and other players be disrespected, players who have nothing to do with the politics of schools and the myths that others wish to believe. That parents who openly vented toward the Bluffton coaches were just as wrong as the Bluffton players for what they did, they should have taken the higher road but it can be hard to do when you hear the things you hear that just simply arent true.

The support that LCC received from other conference schools during that state basketball run was very appreciated and I for one thought we were finally past all the negative talk and rumors over what happened five years ago. But as evidenced during that baseball game and from what you read on this site, there is still work to do. Don't take it out on the kids who are no different than any other high school kids, who want to be the best at whatever they do. We can't change what happened in the past, we can only move forward and continue to work to improve what we do to be a good conference steward.

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Posted 12 May 2010 - 10:27 PM

L.C.C. has brought players in since the days of Curly Baker and Tom (Mutt) Terry playing on the playgrounds of Garfield Elementary. Segs use to work the playgrounds in the summer. GET REAL!! Kendal Nance, Jimmy Freeman, Shane & Shawn Foster, Steve Mowery, Aaron Hutchins, the list goes on. Heck, Tony Caprella (Shawnee), Todd Ruggley (Bath). GET REAL!! Fact of the matter now, with the Lima City Schools on academic probation, people like the great councilman (L.C.C. grad) Derry Glenn, go around passing out vouchers to city kids like candy and they get to go for free. Grant it, their are a great number of kids who come up through the Catholic schools and their families have for generations. The catholic kids that participate in baseball are nurtured through the Shawnee summer programs (most of the families live in the district) through the beginning years. (t ball, little league, and pony league) They have a drawing base that encompasses a large geographical area. Not to mention capitalizing on the "free voucher" plan with the city schools. No, they do not have to "recruit"...but....if it walks like a duck.......................

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just to continue my thought about transfers and such, when Lombardo transfered from LCC to Kenton last year, he did not sit out a year because his parents got an apartment in Kenton to establish residency. LCC has also lost kids to Lima senior, Shawnee, Elida and Bath over the years, all of whom were allowed to leave without penalty at the time because I believe the rule was that you can leave a private school one time without penalty. Without making a list of who has come and who has gone, I think it is fair to say that LCC is probably even at best. The kid who came to LCC from Grove was at Elida before Grove, Ottoville a girl from St Johns? it goes on and on and on. Wasnt it just a few years ago that a QB/Pitcher left Bath as well, was that transfers purely for academic reasons? Dont think so Bluffton.... The bottom line is, whether it is right or wrong, all of the football players who receive the most attention on this site, were released by their former schools supers, which doesnt require a penalty of sitting out a year. The other two who were not released sat out a year. In the last three years LCC athletics has not gotten any athletes by some alleged circumventing of established rules.

Being a private school that depends on tuition dollars to survive, more specifically $5000 a year, there are no athletes getting these phantom scholarships that everyone talks about. Does the school advertise and recruit students? Yes they do, they have to in order to survive, but they do it no differently that any other school say like Spencervilles tv commercials, and if you are not released you sit just like everyone else.

Competition for students at all schools private and public is a way of life today for the future of those schools. I believe the recruiting of athletes does exist in the big cities and with the sprouting up of these charter type schools. LCC however cannot be lumped in with what the big city schools do and all you have to do is look at the schools financial bottom line to realize that . If enrollment over the next ten years doesn't improve at all the smaller parochial schools, then many of you may get your wish.

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L.C.C. has brought players in since the days of Curly Baker and Tom (Mutt) Terry playing on the playgrounds of Garfield Elementary. Segs use to work the playgrounds in the summer. GET REAL!! Kendal Nance, Jimmy Freeman, Shane & Shawn Foster, Steve Mowery, Aaron Hutchins, the list goes on. Heck, Tony Caprella (Shawnee), Todd Ruggley (Bath). GET REAL!! Fact of the matter now, with the Lima City Schools on academic probation, people like the great councilman (L.C.C. grad) Derry Glenn, go around passing out vouchers to city kids like candy and they get to go for free. Grant it, their are a great number of kids who come up through the Catholic schools and their families have for generations. The catholic kids that participate in baseball are nurtured through the Shawnee summer programs (most of the families live in the district) through the beginning years. (t ball, little league, and pony league) They have a drawing base that encompasses a large geographical area. Not to mention capitalizing on the "free voucher" plan with the city schools. No, they do not have to "recruit"...but....if it walks like a duck.......................


Actually once again your facts are not completely correct. LCC has participated in youth baseball for the last ten years in the WOBL baseball league. A league that also containes Shawnee teams. There is no current baseball player that was nurtured as you put it by Shawnee baseball. I am also pretty sure that you cannot go around passing out free vouchers to anyone you want and Derry Glenn hasn't done anything for LCC since he left and in fact has always been more pro Lima Senior if you ever could actually make out what he was saying. As far as the rest of those names, that was a long time ago and many of those names didn't arrive in high school but much earlier. I believe there is a long line of Caprella's that have gone to LCC and the Ruggley issue has been beaten into the ground. Bath released him and he was free to go where he choose, except any other WBL school per condition of his release. Once again I cannot argue what happend thirty or more years ago but in the time of any current students it is just not true.







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