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[Sports Momma]

Any updates? I've heard rumors that a nomination to the school board is close. But nobody knows who will be nominated. I've seen less secrecy when they pick a new Pope.

[lepiota]

Any updates? I've heard rumors that a nomination to the school board is close. But nobody knows who will be nominated. I've seen less secrecy when they pick a new Pope.

I have only heard Roob or Jesko. The only mystery is why it's taking so long. The pope is not available, he is busy praying for the football program.

[KittenPower]

drum roll........

[lepiota]

drum roll........

C'mon KP, don't do me like that. Spill it.

Edited by lepiota, 10 November 2009 - 05:59 PM.

[lepiota]

Any updates? I've heard rumors that a nomination to the school board is close. But nobody knows who will be nominated. I've seen less secrecy when they pick a new Pope.

I thought they decided last night at the board meeting but I did not attend. Does anyone know who it is?

Edited by lepiota, 18 November 2009 - 08:26 AM.

[buckley]

From Bath's website, agenda for meeting on 11/17:

L. Varsity Baseball Coach Whereas, Athletic Director is responsible for recommending to the Superintendent the employment of coaches, so that the Superintendent, in turn, may present those recommendations to the Board of Education for its consideration; and, Whereas, Rich Dackin, Athletic Director, has recommended to the Superintendent that Brian Jesko be employed as Varsity Baseball Coach; and, Whereas, the Superintendent has endorsed this recommendation and presented it to the Board of Education for its consideration; now, therefore, be it Resolved by the Board of Education of the Bath Local School District, a majority of its full membership therein concurring, that Brian Jesko be awarded a contract as Varsity Baseball Coach for the 2009-2010 school year according to the appropriate salary schedule negotiated between said Board and the Bath Education Association.

[lepiota]

I'm sure many of you know by now but for those who don't, its Jesco

[lepiota]

From Bath's website, agenda for meeting on 11/17:

L. Varsity Baseball Coach Whereas, Athletic Director is responsible for recommending to the Superintendent the employment of coaches, so that the Superintendent, in turn, may present those recommendations to the Board of Education for its consideration; and, Whereas, Rich Dackin, Athletic Director, has recommended to the Superintendent that Brian Jesko be employed as Varsity Baseball Coach; and, Whereas, the Superintendent has endorsed this recommendation and presented it to the Board of Education for its consideration; now, therefore, be it Resolved by the Board of Education of the Bath Local School District, a majority of its full membership therein concurring, that Brian Jesko be awarded a contract as Varsity Baseball Coach for the 2009-2010 school year according to the appropriate salary schedule negotiated between said Board and the Bath Education Association.

Man, I was three minutes late with the news. Kaizen, can I get honorable mention for that?

[topflightxl3]

This is a disappointing situation. While Jesco is a great guy for the job and very deserving of it, i feel like they really put Roob in a bind. Were already in the middle of November leaving Roob with no chance to find a baseball job anywhere else, atleaste not a head coaching spot. I think really makes Bath look bad, just a terrible situation IMO, if you know that your not going to go with Roob, decide earlier and give the man a chance to find another job. Really shaking my head at this decision, Jesco as i said before is a great coach, however i think Bath is going to miss Roob. Its an unfortunate situation, and should be frowned on by many, in the name of sports, thats low class sportsmanship on the part of Bath, very low. With all that being said, Goodluck to Jesco and the Wildcats this season.

[lepiota]

This is a disappointing situation. While Jesco is a great guy for the job and very deserving of it, i feel like they really put Roob in a bind. Were already in the middle of November leaving Roob with no chance to find a baseball job anywhere else, atleaste not a head coaching spot. I think really makes Bath look bad, just a terrible situation IMO, if you know that your not going to go with Roob, decide earlier and give the man a chance to find another job. Really shaking my head at this decision, Jesco as i said before is a great coach, however i think Bath is going to miss Roob. Its an unfortunate situation, and should be frowned on by many, in the name of sports, thats low class sportsmanship on the part of Bath, very low. With all that being said, Goodluck to Jesco and the Wildcats this season.

I think the decision would have been made much sooner if not for, A) the petition gave the Board reason to hesitate, and A couple of yahoos that oppose whatever the AD wants. The decison on the coach should be the AD's with the Board's support. (unless there appears to be a personal agenda)

[chapstick 37]

This is a disappointing situation. While Jesco is a great guy for the job and very deserving of it, i feel like they really put Roob in a bind. Were already in the middle of November leaving Roob with no chance to find a baseball job anywhere else, atleaste not a head coaching spot. I think really makes Bath look bad, just a terrible situation IMO, if you know that your not going to go with Roob, decide earlier and give the man a chance to find another job. Really shaking my head at this decision, Jesco as i said before is a great coach, however i think Bath is going to miss Roob. Its an unfortunate situation, and should be frowned on by many, in the name of sports, thats low class sportsmanship on the part of Bath, very low. With all that being said, Goodluck to Jesco and the Wildcats this season.

I can't agree even more with this statement...fyi its Jesko. Bath will truly miss coach Roob. Not just his coaching, but for how much time and effort he put into the program and his players. The amount of time and money he spent on baseball was unbelieveable. The number of atheletes he sent to play ball at the next level should show something about him too. Its not fair in any way the way things turned out. Since nothing can be changed anymore, I would like to wish Coach Jesko best of luck with the upcoming season. He is going to be a great coach.

[topflightxl3]

Here's a question i would like to raise. If it comes down to the Athletic Director and the board to vote on this situation, How many of these members along with the AD attended a baseball game/ or even practice in which bath participated in? I know the answer, very few if at any for most of them. So how can a vote come down to people that are just hearing B.S. from outsiders and not actually seeing any of it for themselves. I can understand the football descion because the AD and board members attend those games, however this spring go out to the baseball field and check how many board members are sitting out at the game. It just seems funny to me that Coach Roob's job laid in the hands of people that didn't even watch him coach. Anything else aside, Coach Roob put hard work, time , and tons of effort into the baseball program, only to be let go by a board of people to iggnorant to go against what others have to say. Politics, Politics, Politics.

[lepiota]

Who's decision should it be? Generally, the AD makes a recomendation, makes his case to the Board, and usually gets their support. I know you've said Coach Roob has been instumental in helping kids get into college, and that is very, very important. But there are other things to consider. It can't be ignored that the same kids that play 500 ball in the spring play well in Acme while the older kids become the statistical leaders of the Legion teams. I've also read you drawing a parallel between the Bath athletes ability to win football games as an excuse for why they lose in baseball. Such comparisons are obviously ludicrus as each sport presents a vastly different skill set. I think that Roob coached baseball a little too much like football. It is a game of honed skills and confidence. When a player is in a slump (weather it be hitting , fielding, or pitching) anger will not solve it. He also payed little or no attention to players at the lower levels. Coaches Ford and Mauk treat 6,7, & 8th graders like a crop growing in the field. His people skills cost him wins.

[topflightxl3]

You said that is generally the AD who makes the recomendation, okay understandable, but how can he make a recomendation on something he hasnt been out to see for himself, simply going off of what others are saying. When your at the work place for example, before your boss fires you he probably reviews your work, he doesnt hear a complaint from someone having nothing to do with the business and then fire you. As for the Board goes, who actually voted on the matter, they had no clue of what kind of Coach Roob was, i was at every game last year, and i can say that many if not all of them were at zero. How can you leave it up to them to make a vote on that situation. As for the acme program being successful, many of the acme teams arent playing there starting nine in the summer, because kids are out finding better baseball to play. You cant compare acme to spring ball thats an absolutely ridiculous comparrison. It's two completely different kinds of baseball. And as for me comparing bath football athletes and baseball atheltes ...could you quote the post i made im confused on what you were trying to say there. All im saying is you cant leave a descion like that in the hands of people who dont know the whole situation, you dont listen to fans at football games yelling plays to run, why not?, because they havent been at practice and they dont know what there talking about...same situation here.

[lepiota]

Couldn't find it in researching your posts. Sorry, I thought it was you. It was something like "the same athletes that can't win in football can't win in baseball." As for the AD, I know Rich has to spend a little time at ALL the sports. I've seen him at youth football or baseball but only for like a quarter or an inning or two. He puts in a very long day. I watched ACME a couple of years ago and it had all the good younger player: Korkate, Black, Semindinger, Garver. It had anyone that was not on Legion as far as I could tell. Maybe Rich just listened to complainers (right or wrong, insane or not. no names here, none needed) and looked at his win-loss record and made a decision. Maybe he thinks the grass may be a little greener

[topflightxl3]

....or he gave in to the father of one of the above players you listed.

[chapstick 37]

Topflight and leopiota i think u both stated solid points about the whole situation. From what I have seen Roob sometimes did coach like football, but it was not a bad thing. it was to incorporate discipline to his players (which lacked at times). That was his way of coaching. Looking at his past coaching seasons that way of coaching has worked before. Correct me if i am wrong but i believe he has to wbl championships under his belt. so he knows what it takes to win and when delt with not the best cream of the crop he does the best he can.

on regards of comparing acme and summer ball...there is none..period. as long as kids are playing, its alright. Not to talk down the ACME league or anything, its just not one of the higher levels of play for high school anymore.

What the biggest problem with all of us is why??? Why was he let go and why was his job at stake in the first place? how did this issue even start?........This all was started for a reason that should not have even came up and been a problem. Topflight you have nailed it with the board. They do not see how he even coaches and base their opinions on word of mouth. Now to give them some slack im sure they along with the AD have very busy lives and kids to watch of their own so we can give them some of a break, but when the time comes to act they are not have enough of an idea or vision to see the pros and cons of coach roob. If they do not know enough about the situation they should either look into the situation more or just not act on it because they do not know the situation.

This situation was not handled the right way.

[lepiota]

The only way it was handled wrong was that they took so long to do it. TF is right. It was wrong to make either guy wait so long to make a decision. Only time will tell if Coach Jesko can bring more wins, and I think that is what this whole thing is mostly about. As for that certain dad having influence on the decision, I don't think he has any effect on much of anything. He has become the court jester of temper tantrums. I can't think of anyone who would say they might be influenced by that guy. If you see how he has any leverage, I'd like to know what ammo he has left.

[chapstick 37]

The only way it was handled wrong was that they took so long to do it. TF is right. It was wrong to make either guy wait so long to make a decision. Only time will tell if Coach Jesko can bring more wins, and I think that is what this whole thing is mostly about. As for that certain dad having influence on the decision, I don't think he has any effect on much of anything. He has become the court jester of temper tantrums. I can't think of anyone who would say they might be influenced by that guy. If you see how he has any leverage, I'd like to know what ammo he has left.

In my opinion I believe he was the catalyst in this whole process. He brought this to the attention of the board and AD. I do not believe he was the whole cause for this but played a big part. And due to the fact he was a former board member has some type of ammo in my opinion.

Switching subjects I believe Coach Jesko will have a great year and is a good man for the job.

[lepiota]

In my opinion I believe he was the catalyst in this whole process. He brought this to the attention of the board and AD. I do not believe he was the whole cause for this but played a big part. And due to the fact he was a former board member has some type of ammo in my opinion.

Switching subjects I believe Coach Jesko will have a great year and is a good man for the job.

I don't think the baseball incident with annoying man was the thing that got him replaced, but it could have been the last straw. From what I heard, Tony handled the notorius practice temper tantrum quite well. He did nothing there that, in itself, would have brought about his removal as coach. I'm sure though, that had he had a better winning pct., and not been quite so abrasive towards his players, he would still be coach today. I don't think it was a slam dunk. If he had won a lot, they would have overlooked the abrasiveness.

Edited by lepiota, 20 November 2009 - 08:04 AM.