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[mrclutch]

Who else is back for the Knights? Who are the newcomers to watch for? With all the grad loss from '07, will depth be a concern for Crestview?

[white_shadow]

knightfan,

What do you base your opinion of Dysert on? A couple facts would be nice. I can't imagine any coach would take yetman over dysert.

This is just specualtion on my part, but I'm guessing that the Allen East coach would take Yetman over Dysert.

[baseballfan1]

likeitis, That seems like a fair list... but like some of the others said, I would probably jump Dysert ahead of Yetman.

Orsbon, Vermillion and Dysert finished 2nd, 3rd, and 4th respectively in last year's POY voting, and the kid who won it graduated. In my mind, it is only fair that they begin this season as the three 'favorites' to win it this year.

Orsbon and Vermillion put up almost identical numbers last year, with Vermillion having a small lead in most categories but Orsbon having more home runs and RBI. Typically, the power numbers are given a little more weight when it comes to voting, so if Briggs can put five or six out of the park while keeping his average up, he's probably got the best shot at POY.

If LCC rides Kottenbrock's arm to the NWC title, it's not impossible for him to win it, especially if he has a solid year at the plate to back it up. If the kid is unhittable in NWC play, he's got as good a shot at POY as anyone.

Gumshoe, you had an interesting post. I love baseball, and it really is a shame that more great athletes don't focus on it. One of the biggest reasons they don't: The college baseball experience at most colleges completely sucks compared to the football and basketball experiences. More people watch intramural co-ed softball games at small colleges than watch men's baseball. If I knew I were a DII or DIII athlete, I wouldn't waste my time trying to make it on the baseball diamond. It requires the same amount of time and effort as football or basketball, for only a fraction of the glory.

[B-Ball4life]

Baseballfan1

I was just wondering how you know this Kottenbrock kid? Is he reall that good? and from reading this I'm taking it your going with the Birds for the crown this year?

[aefan]

i agree yetman is slow...no he isnt the god everyone thinks he is but i do think that aefan is getting too worked up over this dont down the kid too bad. i watched yetman play in the late summer. his foot speed is better and over the summer i know for a fact he struck out twice. the kid is the best hitter in the region with out a doubt. he went to a bunch of colleges this summer and played against a bunch of kids that probably signed D1 soon after that. he also caught in those games and hit while coaches from schools all over watched him and did pretty well under the pressure. the kid isnt god, he no doubt brings alot of what he learned at shawnee to the table in the NWC, he for sure needs to work on his speed but dont rule him out in the running for POY because he may strike out trying to carry his very sub par team mates. i remember watching them play our boys at crestview and yetman got a hit 3 of 4 and the hit he got out on was a rocket at our 3B man. his first AB he launched a double off the right field line, good hitters hit opposite way. he hit .470 last year .030 under .500 is pretty good. i think next year he is going off to play college ball himself.

now my personal favorite, orsbon. awesome athlete and great kid. he is as you say a born player. he is one of the best athletes this side of ohio. he turns bunts into doubles with his speed or he can haul off and crack one over center field. he tracks fly balls down with his speed and most importantly catches them and has a strong arm for a 3 sport athlete. he works hard in all sports he plays in and does his best to win but more importantly he looks and acts like he is playing in the back yard with his friends. he is the complete high school player which makes him POY material. he has speed agility power small ball technique a strong arm and solid D and can be an effective pitcher when asked in case the team needs him. I believe thats what makes a player of the year.

finally dysert doesnt deserve it all. he gets his press because of football. he hit only .450 last year. if you want to compare catchers, yetman is better he out hit him and out plays him on the defensive side of the things too. yetman can block and throw what ever comes his way.

kottenbrock is the best pitcher in the league. a one era is hard to have not to mention being under a one era. his comand of his junk and his fast ball are well above average and he is a south paw i believe which is a plus. but i will point out because no one else has, he isnt a bad hitter either. he can hold his own from the right side of the plate. no one mentions that he can hit and run to support his team mates and not just do it on the mound. he is very relaxed on the mound and in the batters box and for good reason, he gets the job the best he can and does. he pitched as a junior with a sub one era against the best teams on LCC's schedule and LCC does not slack when it comes to filling out a schedule. the play a tough one and kottenbrock holds his own. im looking forward to seeing how his senior year turns out.

FINALLY LETS ALL BE NICE! AEFAN ESPECIALLY! THESE ARE STILL KIDS! HIGHSCHOOLERS! DONT BE HATEFUL OR PUT THEM DOWN THEY ARE OUT THERE TO HAVE FUN AND NO ONE PRESSURES A YOUNG PLAYER MORE THAN A YOUNG PLAYER. LET THEM PLAY. WE ARE OLD MEN WE HAD OUR DAY NOW LETS LET THE HAVE THEIRS!

Looks like you are downing on the rest of the Allen east team by saying they are all sub par. What do you know?

[rimrocker]

Who else is back for the Knights? Who are the newcomers to watch for? With all the grad loss from '07, will depth be a concern for Crestview?

not for sure who is back....i do believe the crestview jv team had a decent season

[baseballfan1]

Baseballfan1

I was just wondering how you know this Kottenbrock kid? Is he reall that good? and from reading this I'm taking it your going with the Birds for the crown this year?

I'm giving others the benefit of the doubt on Kottenbrock, because I didn't see him pitch last year. He's left-handed, his statistics were good, and he's getting college attention, so I think it's safe to assume he's going to be the ace of his team. I don't see him as a big POY candidate; I was only discussing the type of year he would have to have in order to be considered. For him to win the award, given that others will have much better offensive statistics, will require LCC to win the conference and to do it on his back. Even if that does happen, I think it's unlikely.

As far as the conference, it doesn't sound like there is a prohibitive favorite the way there is some years. LCC and Crestview are always safe bets, as they always seem to be solid defensively and on the mound. Someone on the other thread said LCC was shaky defensively, but I'm not buying it. If I were forced to put money down, I'd put it on either Crestview/LCC, but I wouldn't feel great about it.

Paulding will have a nice group of players, but has a history of underachieving. Then again, I'm the guy who said Paulding would go 'all Paulding' and stink at basketball this year, so what do I know? Maybe they'll prove us all wrong and play closer to their potential, which is actually pretty high. Delphos has a nice group of athletes and will win their share of games, but I'm not sure who will pitch for them (somebody else have that information?). Ada will have a nice lineup, but I'm not sure what kind of pitching they have to back it up either. Ada does have some great athletes who are leaders and who are used to winning, and there is something to be said for that.

It wouldn't shock me to see any of those teams win the conference, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if we had more than one champion this year. How's that for (not) answering your question?

[gonemad]

Jefferson will more than likely pitch by commitee.

Seniors
(L) Damon Joseph - Decent fastball, nice 12 to 6er that's effective when he drops it on the plate.

Juniors
® Mike Rahrig - Good mid 80's fastball, developing a decent slurve, has a helluva knuckleball if he uses it. Mike pitched hurt most of last year with a finger injury on his throwing hand. Look for good things from him on the mound.

® Josh Miller - Josh is a deceptive pitcher who spots his pitches well. He never throws the same pitch in the same location at the same speed. He's tough to get a good piece of when he's on, when he' not.........the balls can leave in a hurry when he gets them up.

® Sean Fisher - Every pitch he throws is above average, but none are spectacular. Sean has to work every pitch and rely on the defense to mae plays. He's got a nice compact delivery that hides the ball fairly well but has to stay focused on the batter with runers on.

® Mathew Antalis - I don't know what to say about Matt except he has all the potential in the world if he'd JUST STOP HITTING BATTERS! I've seen him cruising along in games..... then it happens....... he drills someone. Then it's like a drug with him. It's like he just can't get enough of the sound of a baseball thudding off a rib cage. When I coached him as a 14 yr old an opposing coach asked me to take him off he mound because he was running out of healthy hitters, and yet another time he threw a complete game 3 hitter againstone of the better hitting teams.....

Sophomores

® Craig Carder - Tall lanky kid with decent stuff. Might be good for an innig at the end of a game if called upon or to getthe Cats out of a spot.

® Jordan Jettinghoff - Has talent but struggles with fatigue and control due to poor mechanics. There's some speculation as to whether or not JJ is playing this year. I find it hard to believe he won't be there but stranger things have happened.

I would expect you'd see Joseph, Rahrig, Fisher or Miller for league games depeding who is pitching well. I also wouldn't be suprized at all to see a combination of three or four of them in addition to Carder to get a conference win.

[baseballfan1]

Jefferson will more than likely pitch by commitee.

Seniors
(L) Damon Joseph - Decent fastball, nice 12 to 6er that's effective when he drops it on the plate.

Juniors
® Mike Rahrig - Good mid 80's fastball, developing a decent slurve, has a helluva knuckleball if he uses it. Mike pitched hurt most of last year with a finger injury on his throwing hand. Look for good things from him on the mound.

® Josh Miller - Josh is a deceptive pitcher who spots his pitches well. He never throws the same pitch in the same location at the same speed. He's tough to get a good piece of when he's on, when he' not.........the balls can leave in a hurry when he gets them up.

® Sean Fisher - Every pitch he throws is above average, but none are spectacular. Sean has to work every pitch and rely on the defense to mae plays. He's got a nice compact delivery that hides the ball fairly well but has to stay focused on the batter with runers on.

® Mathew Antalis - I don't know what to say about Matt except he has all the potential in the world if he'd JUST STOP HITTING BATTERS! I've seen him cruising along in games..... then it happens....... he drills someone. Then it's like a drug with him. It's like he just can't get enough of the sound of a baseball thudding off a rib cage. When I coached him as a 14 yr old an opposing coach asked me to take him off he mound because he was running out of healthy hitters, and yet another time he threw a complete game 3 hitter againstone of the better hitting teams.....

Sophomores

® Craig Carder - Tall lanky kid with decent stuff. Might be good for an innig at the end of a game if called upon or to getthe Cats out of a spot.

® Jordan Jettinghoff - Has talent but struggles with fatigue and control due to poor mechanics. There's some speculation as to whether or not JJ is playing this year. I find it hard to believe he won't be there but stranger things have happened.

I would expect you'd see Joseph, Rahrig, Fisher or Miller for league games depeding who is pitching well. I also wouldn't be suprized at all to see a combination of three or four of them in addition to Carder to get a conference win.

Now there's an answer!

[slice slice baby]

Jefferson will more than likely pitch by commitee.

Seniors
(L) Damon Joseph - Decent fastball, nice 12 to 6er that's effective when he drops it on the plate.

Juniors
® Mike Rahrig - Good mid 80's fastball, developing a decent slurve, has a helluva knuckleball if he uses it. Mike pitched hurt most of last year with a finger injury on his throwing hand. Look for good things from him on the mound.

® Josh Miller - Josh is a deceptive pitcher who spots his pitches well. He never throws the same pitch in the same location at the same speed. He's tough to get a good piece of when he's on, when he' not.........the balls can leave in a hurry when he gets them up.

® Sean Fisher - Every pitch he throws is above average, but none are spectacular. Sean has to work every pitch and rely on the defense to mae plays. He's got a nice compact delivery that hides the ball fairly well but has to stay focused on the batter with runers on.

® Mathew Antalis - I don't know what to say about Matt except he has all the potential in the world if he'd JUST STOP HITTING BATTERS! I've seen him cruising along in games..... then it happens....... he drills someone. Then it's like a drug with him. It's like he just can't get enough of the sound of a baseball thudding off a rib cage. When I coached him as a 14 yr old an opposing coach asked me to take him off he mound because he was running out of healthy hitters, and yet another time he threw a complete game 3 hitter againstone of the better hitting teams.....

Sophomores

® Craig Carder - Tall lanky kid with decent stuff. Might be good for an innig at the end of a game if called upon or to getthe Cats out of a spot.

® Jordan Jettinghoff - Has talent but struggles with fatigue and control due to poor mechanics. There's some speculation as to whether or not JJ is playing this year. I find it hard to believe he won't be there but stranger things have happened.

I would expect you'd see Joseph, Rahrig, Fisher or Miller for league games depeding who is pitching well. I also wouldn't be suprized at all to see a combination of three or four of them in addition to Carder to get a conference win.

Now there's an answer!

You two will get along fabulously.

[gonemad]

Slice, the young man obviously knows a well informed post from an intelligent mind when he reads one. I'm sure you're right, we will get along just fine.

[Boomerpete]

i agree yetman is slow...no he isnt the god everyone thinks he is but i do think that aefan is getting too worked up over this dont down the kid too bad. i watched yetman play in the late summer. his foot speed is better and over the summer i know for a fact he struck out twice. the kid is the best hitter in the region with out a doubt. he went to a bunch of colleges this summer and played against a bunch of kids that probably signed D1 soon after that. he also caught in those games and hit while coaches from schools all over watched him and did pretty well under the pressure. the kid isnt god, he no doubt brings alot of what he learned at shawnee to the table in the NWC, he for sure needs to work on his speed but dont rule him out in the running for POY because he may strike out trying to carry his very sub par team mates. i remember watching them play our boys at crestview and yetman got a hit 3 of 4 and the hit he got out on was a rocket at our 3B man. his first AB he launched a double off the right field line, good hitters hit opposite way. he hit .470 last year .030 under .500 is pretty good. i think next year he is going off to play college ball himself.

now my personal favorite, orsbon. awesome athlete and great kid. he is as you say a born player. he is one of the best athletes this side of ohio. he turns bunts into doubles with his speed or he can haul off and crack one over center field. he tracks fly balls down with his speed and most importantly catches them and has a strong arm for a 3 sport athlete. he works hard in all sports he plays in and does his best to win but more importantly he looks and acts like he is playing in the back yard with his friends. he is the complete high school player which makes him POY material. he has speed agility power small ball technique a strong arm and solid D and can be an effective pitcher when asked in case the team needs him. I believe thats what makes a player of the year.

finally dysert doesnt deserve it all. he gets his press because of football. he hit only .450 last year. if you want to compare catchers, yetman is better he out hit him and out plays him on the defensive side of the things too. yetman can block and throw what ever comes his way.

kottenbrock is the best pitcher in the league. a one era is hard to have not to mention being under a one era. his comand of his junk and his fast ball are well above average and he is a south paw i believe which is a plus. but i will point out because no one else has, he isnt a bad hitter either. he can hold his own from the right side of the plate. no one mentions that he can hit and run to support his team mates and not just do it on the mound. he is very relaxed on the mound and in the batters box and for good reason, he gets the job the best he can and does. he pitched as a junior with a sub one era against the best teams on LCC's schedule and LCC does not slack when it comes to filling out a schedule. the play a tough one and kottenbrock holds his own. im looking forward to seeing how his senior year turns out.

FINALLY LETS ALL BE NICE! AEFAN ESPECIALLY! THESE ARE STILL KIDS! HIGHSCHOOLERS! DONT BE HATEFUL OR PUT THEM DOWN THEY ARE OUT THERE TO HAVE FUN AND NO ONE PRESSURES A YOUNG PLAYER MORE THAN A YOUNG PLAYER. LET THEM PLAY. WE ARE OLD MEN WE HAD OUR DAY NOW LETS LET THE HAVE THEIRS!

Yeah, Dysert deserves nothing. I recall scant few stolen bases on him because he's that good of a catcher. But he deserves nothing. He only hit .450 too. Amazing.

[homeryourout]

might as well give it to dysert . allready won football and basketball has anyone ever won all three

[*BabySlice*]

Curt Yetman is a good friend of mine, he is a hard worker and he'll be recieving exactly what he deserves. He's been practicing non-stop for a while now, batting and pitching. He hurt his back a little a few weeks ago, just some muscle strains, but he's still out practicing. I'm looking forward to watching him succeed. He intends on going to Bluffton Unv. to play baseball I believe

[BaseballIsLyfe19]

whoa babyslice cant speak of that team from bluffton to people from defiance. Yetman came up to an overnight visit this past weekend to Defiance and seems he liked it. Who knows where he will end up tho

[white_shadow]

Curt Yetman is a good friend of mine, he is a hard worker and he'll be recieving exactly what he deserves. He's been practicing non-stop for a while now, batting and pitching.

Are you sure about that pitching part? Not saying it's not true, just never heard that he pitched.

[BaseballIsLyfe19]

he relieves since they are not deep at all in the pitching dept.

[aefan]

he relieves since they are not deep at all in the pitching dept.

yes he has been pitching. No reason to waste a strong arm. Allen East is not deep at pitcher so expect to see Curt eating up some innings.

[*BabySlice*]

whoa babyslice cant speak of that team from bluffton to people from defiance. Yetman came up to an overnight visit this past weekend to Defiance and seems he liked it. Who knows where he will end up tho

Hm... Who knows. He's talked to me a few times about it, and one of the seniors confirmed that Curt's going to Bluffton, and which I think suits him. But he's always pretty decked out in Bucky the Beaver... But he may change his mind. I think he should stay close to home, I hate seeing friends move to faraway places for college... Ahem. I still miss you lol